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Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Fairlight Series 3 spares wanted

Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Fairlight Series 3 spares wanted

2011-03-01 by linear226.excite

HI there : I have what I think is an MFX2 Controller : I picked it up with some other fairlight spares I bought, but will never get round to using it. It has just trailing bare wires instead of a proper cable, and from others comments, appears t o be a test/demo unit, supplied with a breakout box to connect to series III without MFX backplane cards.

As I said, I will never use this, I dont know if it works (never tried). I would be happy to see it go to a good home and be useful. to someone. Ill post some pictures tonight and let me know if you are interested.

Thanks,

Arron

--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "linear226.excite" wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Anyone got any Series 3 spares knocking about? Might be looking for CMI music kbd, Series 3 qwerty kbd with graphics tablet, MFX2 controller, Waveform Supervisor card etc, or any other major components, I just picked up an MFX2 rackmount tower conf igured as MFX3+ and looking to swap it out as a Series 3/MFX2 configuration running 11.39. I'll be looking to shift the existing cards if anyones interested, such as Waveform Executive card and related I/O. Specs to follow. PS. I'm not looking to spend s illy money, I did allthat in the 90's...Thanks in advance.
>
> Tony
>

Re: Fairlight Series 3 spares wanted

2011-03-01 by arroncx

OK : I never expected that multiple people would be interested, so ive put it on ebay so everyone get a fair crack, at a price Id be willing to accept.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260745984351#ht_500wt_951

Its just a 24 hour auction, and Ill post it out at the weekend.

Hope this is fair to everyone,

Thanks,

Arron

--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "linear226.excite" <linear226@...> wrote:
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>
> Thanks Arron,
> 
> yes be interested to see what it looks like,
> 
> cheers Tony
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "arroncx" [aclague@...]
> Date: 03/01/2011 11:40 AM
> To: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Fairlight Series 3 spares wanted
> 
> Note: Original message sent as attachment
> HI there : I have what I think is an MFX2 Controller : I picked it up with some other fairlight spares I bought, but will never get round to using it. It has just trailing bare wires instead of a proper cable, and from others comments, appears to be a test/demo unit, supplied with a breakout box to connect to series III without MFX backplane cards.
> 
> As I said, I will never use this, I dont know if it works (never tried). I would be happy to see it go to a good home and be useful. to someone. Ill post some pictures tonight and let me know if you are interested. 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Arron
> 
> --- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "linear226.excite" <linear226@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Anyone got any Series 3 spares knocking about? Might be looking for CMI music kbd, Series 3 qwerty kbd with graphics tablet, MFX2 controller, Waveform Supervisor card etc, or any other major components, I just picked up an MFX2 rackmount  tower configured as MFX3+ and looking to swap it out as a Series 3/MFX2 configuration running 11.39. I'll be looking to shift the existing cards if anyones interested, such as Waveform Executive card and related I/O. Specs to follow. PS. I'm not looking to spend silly money, I did allthat in the 90's...Thanks in advance.
> > 
> > Tony
> >
>

Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Fairlight Series 3 spares wanted

2011-03-02 by Joe Sleator

Hi Arron,

> so ive put it on ebay so everyone get a fair crack, at a price Id be willing to accept.

Well, it's tempting I can tell you.

The internal switchmode supplies in those may have been a bit under spec. Does your one have an IDC (mains kettle plug) connector on the back, or an external supply and a "laptop plug" for the power? One of the ones we used got the power through the breakout box, IIRC, I think at one point it was even supposed to work with the +/- 20 keyboard power. Nowadays they can happily run on a cheap $30 micro ATX supply, which fits neatly where the old 80's modular one did.

A bit of MFX 1 keyboard history. That one, or one of its production cousins maybe number 2 or 3 IIRC of the big MFX 1/2 keyboards with the breakout boxes sat on my desk for the second half of 1988 in Doody St Alexandria, where Fairlight moved initially from Boundary St in Rushcutter's Bay. I was lucky enough to get a chance to make some mischief with the 68000 firmware doing some "improvements" on MIDI CC messages being sent out of the MFX keyboard, and some early machine control and timecode (think tape) synch stuff. It didn't have proper sliders or bend wheels or anything, but they still wanted people to make music with it, rather than just score movies. At the time Fairlight was trying to replace the music keyboards with those, but that didn't last very long, people just liked the music keyboards too much, so they had to keep making them for a while longer until they finally stopped selling the music capability.

The other day I found my original linerprinter generated source code listing for it. 68000 code is very relaxing to look at. :-)

Anyway, in late 1988 Isao Tomita came to town to put on a sort of wild show which he called "Sound Cloud" in Farm Cove, complete with megawatt speakers and an aerial speaker hanging down from an Army Chinook helicopter as well, driven wirelessly. The amp and speaker were so big, that you could hear Tomita's music over the helicopter, from some angles at least when the wind and thermocline layers were right! I'm sure the chinook itself had some effect on the local temperature inversion, but the net effect was to make a sort of enormous weather generated room. In those days you couldn't use DSP to equalize a performance out for a room 5,000 x 5,000 x 1000 feet, so it just reverberated a lot.

Tomita himself was to be up in in a sort of ridiculous glass pyramid control room, suspended from a 200 foot industrial crane over the water. I'm wondering what the insurance on that setup looked like, not to mention the safety contingency plans. At least he didn't have it filled with pure oxygen!

More details here, paragraph 5. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isao_Tomita

Anyway, I heard about this gig, and decided to go, but the day of the gig, my desktop-firmware-writing MFX keyboard disappeared, so I couldn't work properly.

I rode my bike up to the gig, which was at night, and it was a bit surreal, as the weather was very blustery, and this really primal Tomita music, which I already loved, was coming over the water, sort of in waves due to a temperature inversion, and of course, there was this big helicopter trying to hover accurately. Anyway, I decided to climb a tree right about here: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Farm+Cove,+Sydney,+New+South+Wales,+Australia&aq=0&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=53.829089,93.691406&ie=UTF8&hq=Farm+Cove&hnear=Farm+Cove,+Sydney+New+South+Wales+2000,+Australia&ll=-33.863641,151.218358&spn=0.003483,0.005718&t=h&z=18

I got fairly high up in the tree, and could see pretty well. The wind blew the tree around so it was heaving and swaying, and the sound bounced off everything and it was all pretty special and primal.

Next day I came in to work at Doody St, to find my old MFX firmware-writing box back in its place, all covered with greasy fingerprints. Apparently Tomita had used it in his control pyramid! Later Andrew Bell or perhaps Kim dropped round and explained how it had been taken off and used in the Tomita show to control some noises. At the time I remember wondering why anybody would want to use it to control a sampler. To this day I don't know exactly how, or if it was used.

I think I was also a bit miffed he hadn't autographed the thing!

So, I'm not saying that Arron9;s keyboard is the same one, but it's certainly similar. Happy bidding!

Joe

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On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:16 AM, arroncx <aclague@synapse-consulting.com> wrote:

OK : I never expected that multiple people would be interested, so ive put it on ebay so everyone get a fair crack, at a price Id be willing to accept.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260745984351#ht_500wt_951

Its just a 24 hour auction, and Ill post it out at the weekend.

Hope this is fair to everyone,



Thanks,

Arron

--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "linear226.excite" wrote:
>
> Thanks Arron,
>
> yes be interested to see what it looks like,
>
> cheers Tony
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "arroncx" [aclague@...]
> Date: 03/01/2011 11:40 AM
> To: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Fairlight Series 3 spares wanted
>
> Note: Original message sent as attachment
> HI there : I have what I think is an MFX2 Controller : I picked it up with some other fairlight spares I bought, but will never get round to using it. It has just trailing bare wires instead of a proper cable, and from others comments, appears to be a test/demo unit, supplied with a breakout box to connect to series III without MFX backplane cards.
>
> As I said, I will never use this, I dont know if it works (never tried). I would be happy to see it go to a good home and be useful. to someone. Ill post some pictures tonight and let me know if you are interested.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Arron
>
> --- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "linear226.excite" wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Anyone got any Series 3 spares knocking about? Might be looking for CMI music kbd, Series 3 qwerty kbd with graphics tablet, MFX2 controller, Waveform Supervisor card etc, or any other major components, I just picked up an MFX2 rackmount tower configured as MFX3+ and looking to swap it out as a Series 3/MFX2 configuration running 11.39. I'll be looking to shift the existing cards if anyones interested, such as Waveform Executive card and related I/O. Specs to follow. PS. I'm not looking to spend silly money, I did allthat in the 90's...Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Tony
> >
>


Re: Fairlight Series 3 spares wanted

2011-03-02 by arroncx

Hi Joe : thanks for the fascinating post :)

It has neither an IDC socket, or laptop style socket : it has some bare wires communing out of the back of the case (4 in total) which I assume are supposed to supply the power.(see photos)

Thanks,

Arron





--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, Joe Sleator <joe.sleator@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> Hi Arron,
> 
> > so ive put it on ebay so everyone get a fair crack, at a price Id be
> willing to accept.
> 
> Well, it's tempting I can tell you.
> 
> The internal switchmode supplies in those may have been a bit under spec.
> Does your one have an IDC (mains kettle plug) connector on the back, or an
> external supply and a "laptop plug" for the power? One of the ones we used
> got the power through the breakout box, IIRC, I think at one point it was
> even supposed to work with the +/- 20 keyboard power. Nowadays they can
> happily run on a cheap $30 micro ATX supply, which fits neatly where the old
> 80's modular one did.
> 
> A bit of MFX 1 keyboard history. That one, or one of its production cousins
> maybe number 2 or 3 IIRC of the big MFX 1/2 keyboards with the breakout
> boxes sat on my desk for the second half of 1988 in Doody St Alexandria,
> where Fairlight moved initially from Boundary St in Rushcutter's Bay. I was
> lucky enough to get a chance to make some mischief with the 68000 firmware
> doing some "improvements" on MIDI CC messages being sent out of the MFX
> keyboard, and some early machine control and timecode (think tape) synch
> stuff. It didn't have proper sliders or bend wheels or anything, but they
> still wanted people to make music with it, rather than just score movies. At
> the time Fairlight was trying to replace the music keyboards with those, but
> that didn't last very long, people just liked the music keyboards too much,
> so they had to keep making them for a while longer until they finally
> stopped selling the music capability.
> 
> The other day I found my original linerprinter generated source code listing
> for it. 68000 code is very relaxing to look at. :-)
> 
> Anyway, in late 1988 Isao Tomita came to town to put on a sort of wild show
> which he called "Sound Cloud" in Farm Cove, complete with megawatt speakers
> and an aerial speaker hanging down from an Army Chinook helicopter as well,
> driven wirelessly. The amp and speaker were so big, that you could hear
> Tomita's music over the helicopter, from some angles at least when the wind
> and thermocline layers were right! I'm sure the chinook itself had some
> effect on the local temperature inversion, but the net effect was to make a
> sort of enormous weather generated room. In those days you couldn't use DSP
> to equalize a performance out for a room 5,000 x 5,000 x 1000 feet, so it
> just reverberated a lot.
> 
> Tomita himself was to be up in in a sort of ridiculous glass pyramid control
> room, suspended from a 200 foot industrial crane over the water. I'm
> wondering what the insurance on that setup looked like, not to mention the
> safety contingency plans. At least he didn't have it filled with pure
> oxygen!
> 
> More details here, paragraph 5. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isao_Tomita
> 
> Anyway, I heard about this gig, and decided to go, but the day of the gig,
> my desktop-firmware-writing MFX keyboard disappeared, so I couldn't work
> properly.
> 
> I rode my bike up to the gig, which was at night, and it was a bit surreal,
> as the weather was very blustery, and this really primal Tomita music, which
> I already loved, was coming over the water, sort of in waves due to a
> temperature inversion, and of course, there was this big helicopter trying
> to hover accurately. Anyway, I decided to climb a tree right about here:
> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Farm+Cove,+Sydney,+New+South+Wales,+Australia&aq=0&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=53.829089,93.691406&ie=UTF8&hq=Farm+Cove&hnear=Farm+Cove,+Sydney+New+South+Wales+2000,+Australia&ll=-33.863641,151.218358&spn=0.003483,0.005718&t=h&z=18
> 
> I got fairly high up in the tree, and could see pretty well. The wind blew
> the tree around so it was heaving and swaying, and the sound bounced off
> everything and it was all pretty special and primal.
> 
> Next day I came in to work at Doody St, to find my old MFX firmware-writing
> box back in its place, all covered with greasy fingerprints. Apparently
> Tomita had used it in his control pyramid! Later Andrew Bell or perhaps Kim
> dropped round and explained how it had been taken off and used in the Tomita
> show to control some noises. At the time I remember wondering why anybody
> would want to use it to control a sampler. To this day I don't know exactly
> how, or if it was used.
> 
> I think I was also a bit miffed he hadn't autographed the thing!
> 
> So, I'm not saying that Arron's keyboard is the same one, but it's certainly
> similar. Happy bidding!
> 
> Joe
> 
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:16 AM, arroncx <aclague@...>wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > OK : I never expected that multiple people would be interested, so ive put
> > it on ebay so everyone get a fair crack, at a price Id be willing to accept.
> >
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260745984351#ht_500wt_951
> >
> > Its just a 24 hour auction, and Ill post it out at the weekend.
> >
> > Hope this is fair to everyone,
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Arron
> >
> > --- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "linear226.excite" <linear226@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Arron,
> > >
> > > yes be interested to see what it looks like,
> > >
> > > cheers Tony
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: "arroncx" [aclague@]
> > > Date: 03/01/2011 11:40 AM
> > > To: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Fairlight Series 3 spares wanted
> > >
> > > Note: Original message sent as attachment
> > > HI there : I have what I think is an MFX2 Controller : I picked it up
> > with some other fairlight spares I bought, but will never get round to using
> > it. It has just trailing bare wires instead of a proper cable, and from
> > others comments, appears to be a test/demo unit, supplied with a breakout
> > box to connect to series III without MFX backplane cards.
> > >
> > > As I said, I will never use this, I dont know if it works (never tried).
> > I would be happy to see it go to a good home and be useful. to someone. Ill
> > post some pictures tonight and let me know if you are interested.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Arron
> > >
> > > --- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "linear226.excite" <linear226@>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > Anyone got any Series 3 spares knocking about? Might be looking for CMI
> > music kbd, Series 3 qwerty kbd with graphics tablet, MFX2 controller,
> > Waveform Supervisor card etc, or any other major components, I just picked
> > up an MFX2 rackmount tower configured as MFX3+ and looking to swap it out as
> > a Series 3/MFX2 configuration running 11.39. I'll be looking to shift the
> > existing cards if anyones interested, such as Waveform Executive card and
> > related I/O. Specs to follow. PS. I'm not looking to spend silly money, I
> > did allthat in the 90's...Thanks in advance.
> > > >
> > > > Tony
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
>

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