----- Original Message -----From: todamoonmusicSent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 3:02 AMSubject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: VFX Rack versionI've thought about this myself and the ultimate way I came up was to sample the basic patch with no effects and build it back up from scratch in my Yamaha Motif XS6....It has 1 gig RAM so plenty of sample room....The sound shaping capabilities are amazing AND it has poly after touch AND 2 assignable buttons.....It does 8 elements so you could even add more from the Yamaha sound engine.....Unfortunately this would take way more time than I have right now but that's what runs through my mind from time to time.......moon
--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" ...> wrote:
>
> eps16+ is the nearest rack version same engine same effects but no rom easy fix with a all sound rom sampled thats what i did with mine and to recreat the patches is easy with soundiver as all parameters are visual you just put your samples in the same order as they are in the vfx/sd1 and add the layers the same
>
> there are quite a few multi samples and a lot of single samples as in the transwaves which use singkle cycle additive waves in a 100 string
>
> but you can do more with the eps16+/asr10 as you can make your own transwaves and being able to layer 8 voices you can do wavesequencing with the looping envelopes
>
> all paremetrs are the same so its easy to dial in the data from lookig at the sound diver screen and adding the numbers to the same associated parameter
>
> the sqr is an synth on the cocept of the esq1 and sq80 with only 3 layers per patch but you loose the am and sink and analog filters
>
> but the sqr is a great sounding synth and has most of the sound set of the vfx with added transwaves that the vfx or ts10 dont have but also looses a few that the vfx has if you get the sqr+32 it has the same piano as the sd1 but it is only mono pressure and the effects are very limited and cant be added as the eps16+/asr10/ts10
>
> most patches can be converted to the sqr but any vfx patches with more than 3 layers cant be made
>
> the ts10 can do most sd1 and vfx patches but apart from the transwaves as there are only 8 and 6 of the 8 are not even in the vfx they are vocal type transwaves as in arhh uhh ahh ooh eii
>
> the fizmo rack would be a nice synth but its not a vfx/sd1 its a totally different beast made on the otto4 synth chip from the asrx pro sampler drummachine and uses the esp chip of the asr10
>
> the oto4 synth chip has more polyphony and has resonat filters
>
> the fizmo has all transwaves as its rom plus drum samples and so is very hard to emulate a vfx with it
>
> most of the transwaves are clipping type and not resonat type as they are in the vfx becuase of the resonat digital filters which the earlier ensoniq keyboards lacked unless you used the waveboy resonant disk which can rewrite the esp dsp eprom but only in the samplers and ts10 not sure if you can rewrite the effects chip in the sd1 ?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: gonzinigonz
> To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 6:17 PM
> Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] VFX Rack version
>
>
>
> So was there a rack version of the VFX or something close ever made?
> I thought there might of been but having looked maybe not..
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>;
> Internal Virus Database is out of date.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2846 - Release Date: 04/30/10 18:27:00
>
Internal Virus Database is out of date.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2846 - Release Date: 04/30/10 18:27:00
Message
Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: VFX Rack version
2010-05-08 by jammie
problem thre is it has no transwave modulation so
its impossible to do those wavetable type sounds the only machines that can are
the
ts10/12 but the 12 only has mono
pressure
eps16+ which is the sampler version of the
vfx/sd1
asr10
asrx pro
these are the only machines that do transwave
modultion are are synth compatible in its features as they have identicle synth
params
and with sampling just use the all wave sample
which is the hole of the sound rom and use a sample editor to chop up the
samples the transwave 1,s are a sigle sample not multisampled and have the
exactly the same size wave form for every one of its wave forms find the size of
the first wave form in samples and set the loop point to that
thats how i learnt how to make transwaves becuase
they are additive single cycle waves with variation over time
you dont get loop markers but you can do your own
if ensoniq could loop them then you can the looping tools in ensoniq samplers
are excellent and i have still to find a pc or mac program that can match
it
what i do is get the sample editor and look
for a repeating pattern that looks identical to the last patern then make my
loop markers there to the wav file usually in a pc you will get a blip i then
transfer the sample to the sampler and use the sampler tools of the ensoniq
samplers with the crossfades settings and i always get a good loop