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A Verdict.

A Verdict.

2017-02-09 by Bakis Sirros

after working for many years with the Doepfer A100/euro, the Serge and the Buchla modulars, here is my verdict:
all the different modular systems have a place in my music. The Serge and the Buchla modulars are just different in sound than the Doepfer A100 /euro modular. they are certainly NOT better.

keep up the great work Dieter!

Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds | [Doepfer_a100] group owner | www. parallel - worlds - music. com | www. facebook. com/ parallelworldsmusic | www. DiN. org. uk

Re: [Doepfer_a100] A Verdict.

2017-02-10 by Jacco Ville

Hello, I am with that. 

Only two years doing modular stuff my complete setup is made with Doepfer modules. 
Two monster cases and three small as main setup. 
Great stuff, for me as a newby a big step up. 
A learning process. 
Just now I am carefully looking to other interesting brands on the market to fill up my needs. 


Jacco Ville




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> Op 9 feb. 2017 om 22:38 heeft Bakis Sirros synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> after working for many years with the Doepfer A100/euro, the Serge and the Buchla modulars, here is my verdict:
> all the different modular systems have a place in my music. The Serge and the Buchla modulars are just different in sound than the Doepfer A100 /euro modular. they are certainly NOT better.
> 
> keep up the great work Dieter!
> 
>  
> Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds | [Doepfer_a100] group owner | www. parallel - worlds - music. com | www. facebook. com/ parallelworldsmusic |  www. DiN. org. uk
>

Re: [Doepfer_a100] A Verdict.

2017-02-10 by Zoë Blade

Yeah, my rack's about 3/4 or so Doepfer modules, and my music's never sounded better.  Thanks, Dieter! 😃

Cheers,
Zoë.

-- 
http://www.zoeblade.com
Experimental electronic music

Re: [Doepfer_a100] A Verdict.

2017-02-10 by james.husted@mac.com

To me, Doepfer modules are the foundation on which a well rounded synthesizer system is built. Get the whacky, exotic modules from other makers but the basic modules, the “used in every patch” modules will always be Doepfer in my rig.

-James 
James Husted, Designer, Synthwerks LLC • www.synthwerks.com • james@synthwerks.com • info@synthwerks.com

Re: [Doepfer_a100] A Verdict.

2017-02-11 by achtung_999

Most of the wacky exotic modules functions can be patched with a few Doepfer modules.
Problem is that most people nowadays seem to completely oversee why modular is so cool in the first place: Patching your own intricate processes.
I started with a Doepfer system in 2004 and by now it has quite some modules from other manufacturers but the heart is still Doepfer. I built myself a few of the EuroSerge modules from Random Source and Elby because I have a thing for the crazy functionality Serge has but don't get me wrong Doepfer stuff is still the core of my system. And will always be I think :D

Ernst


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On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 6:35 PM, james.husted@mac.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

To me, Doepfer modules are the foundation on which a well rounded synthesizer system is built. Get the whacky, exotic modules from other makers but the basic modules, the “used in every patch” modules will always be Doepfer in my rig.

-James
James Husted, Designer, Synthwerks LLC • www.synthwerks.comjames@synthwerks.cominfo@synthwerks.com


Re: [Doepfer_a100] A Verdict.

2017-02-11 by Bakis Sirros

'most of the wacky exotic modules functions can be patched with a few Doepfer modules', indeed, true! ok, for some functions would not only be needed a few doepfer modules, would require more than a few modules, but still this sentence is true.
 also, me too, i now have a big DoepferA100/euro modular, but still the heart of my system is Doepfer A100.
best regards,Bakis.

 Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds | [Doepfer_a100] group owner | www. parallel - worlds - music. com | www. facebook. com/ parallelworldsmusic |  www. DiN. org. uk
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      From: "achtung_999 heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100]" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
 To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 2:39 AM
 Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] A Verdict.
   
    Most of the wacky exotic modules functions can be patched with a few Doepfer modules.Problem is that most people nowadays seem to completely oversee why modular is so cool in the first place: Patching your own intricate processes. I started with a Doepfer system in 2004 and by now it has quite some modules from other manufacturers but the heart is still Doepfer. I built myself a few of the EuroSerge modules from Random Source and Elby because I have a thing for the crazy functionality Serge has but don't get me wrong Doepfer stuff is still the core of my system. And will always be I think :D
Ernst

 
On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 6:35 PM, james.husted@mac.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

     To me, Doepfer modules are the foundation on which a well rounded synthesizer system is built. Get the whacky, exotic modules from other makers but the basic modules, the “used in every patch” modules will always be Doepfer in my rig.

-James 
James Husted, Designer, Synthwerks LLC • www.synthwerks.com • james@synthwerks.com • info@synthwerks.com

Re: [Doepfer_a100] A Verdict.

2017-02-11 by james.husted@mac.com

When I say “whacky modules” I guess I mean more exotic modules. You can replicate modules like MakeNoise Maths with a bunch of Doepfer modules, as you can with many “east coast” multi-modules, but I have a granular/wave player (the qu-bit Nebulae) that would be not replicated with Doepfer modules as fart as I know (You can load your own Pure Data files in it for instance). I also have a ADDAC101 Wave player that can’t be match by the Doepfer Sample player module plus other Doepfer modules. My company (Synthwerks) makes a few modules that there are no Doepfer equivalents or can be made by combining modules (that is why we make them). This is NOT a diss or slight to Doepfer in ANY way. Just a different philosophy by makers. Doepfer will probably never make an Orthogonal Devices ER-301 Sound Computer or DSP effects units either. That is what is great about the Eurorack marketplace, there are people making ALL kinds of stuff out there (some whose purpose and uses baffle me). Companies like Doepfer and Analogue Systems, that have a wide catalog, will always find a way into people’s rigs.
-James

James Husted, Designer, Synthwerks LLC • www.synthwerks.com • james@synthwerks.com • info@synthwerks.com
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> On Feb 11, 2017, at 12:49 AM, Bakis Sirros synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 'most of the wacky exotic modules functions can be patched with a few Doepfer modules', indeed, true! ok, for some functions would not only be needed a few doepfer modules, would require more than a few modules, but still this sentence is true.
> 
> also, me too, i now have a big DoepferA100/euro modular, but still the heart of my system is Doepfer A100.
> 
> best regards,
> Bakis.
> 
> 
>  
> Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds | [Doepfer_a100] group owner | www. parallel - worlds - music. com | www. facebook. com/ parallelworldsmusic |  www. DiN. org. uk
> 
> 
> From: "achtung_999 heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100]" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 2:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] A Verdict.
> 
> Most of the wacky exotic modules functions can be patched with a few Doepfer modules.
> Problem is that most people nowadays seem to completely oversee why modular is so cool in the first place: Patching your own intricate processes. 
> I started with a Doepfer system in 2004 and by now it has quite some modules from other manufacturers but the heart is still Doepfer. I built myself a few of the EuroSerge modules from Random Source and Elby because I have a thing for the crazy functionality Serge has but don't get me wrong Doepfer stuff is still the core of my system. And will always be I think :D
> 
> Ernst
> 
> 
>  
> 
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 6:35 PM, james.husted@mac.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>  
> To me, Doepfer modules are the foundation on which a well rounded synthesizer system is built. Get the whacky, exotic modules from other makers but the basic modules, the “used in every patch” modules will always be Doepfer in my rig.
> 
> -James 
> James Husted, Designer, Synthwerks LLC • www.synthwerks.com • james@synthwerks.com • info@synthwerks.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>

Re: [Doepfer_a100] A Verdict.

2017-02-11 by Diego Ragnini

Does Nebulae load Pure Data files? That's amazing, really! I love that software! Thomas Brinkmann is sharing materials since ever on his web site. Though I can't see to what extent it loads PD files… I did believe that it loads audio WAV files… sincerely I don't know Nebulae at all, I purchased MN Phonogene, tried it for few weeks and gave it away since it seemed just crap to me, compared to granular synthesis software which do the job more efficiently for sure. Of course I am not a pure fanatic of modular synthesis, since I can use pc without shame.

Beginners prefer pre patched modules (for instance, MN Wogglebug which can be replicated by coupling few doepfer modules) just because they are beginners: afraid of having to dedicate too many hours to learn several functions and schemes in a short time. Then pre patched modules need less room in the racks and, as everyone experienced, they get filled very fast!
:-)

Diego

Il giorno 11/feb/2017, alle ore 19:33, james.husted@mac.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> ha scritto:

When I say “whacky modules” I guess I mean more exotic modules. You can replicate modules like MakeNoise Maths with a bunch of Doepfer modules, as you can with many “east coast” multi-modules, but I have a granular/wave player (the qu-bit Nebulae) that would be not replicated with Doepfer modules as fart as I know (You can load your own Pure Data files in it for instance). I also have a ADDAC101 Wave player that can’t be match by the Doepfer Sample player module plus other Doepfer modules. My company (Synthwerks) makes a few modules that there are no Doepfer equivalents or can be made by combining modules (that is why we make them). This is NOT a diss or slight to Doepfer in ANY way. Just a different philosophy by makers. Doepfer will probably never make an Orthogonal Devices ER-301 Sound Computer or DSP effects units either. That is what is great about the Eurorack marketplace, there are people making ALL kinds of stuff out there (some whose purpose and uses baffle me). Companies like Doepfer and Analogue Systems, that have a wide catalog, will always find a way into people’s rigs.
-James

James Husted, Designer, Synthwerks LLC • www.synthwerks.comjames@synthwerks.cominfo@synthwerks.com

> On Feb 11, 2017, at 12:49 AM, Bakis Sirros synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> 'most of the wacky exotic modules functions can be patched with a few Doepfer modules', indeed, true! ok, for some functions would not only be needed a few doepfer modules, would require more than a few modules, but still this sentence is true.
>
> also, me too, i now have a big DoepferA100/euro modular, but still the heart of my system is Doepfer A100.
>
> best regards,
> Bakis.
>
>
>
> Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds | [Doepfer_a100] group owner | www. parallel - worlds - music. com | www. facebook. com/ parallelworldsmusic | www. DiN. org. uk
>
>
> From: "achtung_999 heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100]" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 2:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] A Verdict.
>
> Most of the wacky exotic modules functions can be patched with a few Doepfer modules.
> Problem is that most people nowadays seem to completely oversee why modular is so cool in the first place: Patching your own intricate processes.
> I started with a Doepfer system in 2004 and by now it has quite some modules from other manufacturers but the heart is still Doepfer. I built myself a few of the EuroSerge modules from Random Source and Elby because I have a thing for the crazy functionality Serge has but don't get me wrong Doepfer stuff is still the core of my system. And will always be I think :D
>
> Ernst
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 6:35 PM, james.husted@mac.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> To me, Doepfer modules are the foundation on which a well rounded synthesizer system is built. Get the whacky, exotic modules from other makers but the basic modules, the “used in every patch” modules will always be Doepfer in my rig.
>
> -James
> James Husted, Designer, Synthwerks LLC • www.synthwerks.comjames@synthwerks.cominfo@synthwerks.com
>
>
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] A Verdict.

2017-02-11 by mars@pingdynasty.com

Martin Brinkmann, maybe?
Just having a look at his patches now, some great looking stuff.
AFAIK the Nebulae is powered by a Raspberry Pi and runs LibPD, a 
small-ish Pd interpreter.
There are other solutions, e.g. using the Heavy compiler which can 
generate optimised code for different embedded architectures.

My own company Rebel Technology makes the OWL Modular, which uses Heavy 
to run Pd. Then the OWL is also programmable in C++, FAUST and most 
recently Max Gen (end plug).

As a modular maker, I wouldn't bother to make anything that already 
exists: another resonant low pass filter or ADSR for example. Not unless 
I felt it had a unique feature which made it worthwhile. Product 
development is really hard, and if you're not innovating then I don't 
see the point. We are all really lucky with Eurorack that Dieter has 
made such an amazing range of quality modules, which you can combine to 
build just about any type of modular system. It means that as a small 
maker I can focus on the unique bits that I want to contribute. This in 
fact is the very reason I do Eurorack.


Martin
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On 2017-02-11 19:43, Diego Ragnini diegora@free.fr [Doepfer_a100] wrote:
> Does Nebulae load Pure Data files? That's amazing, really! I love
> that software! Thomas Brinkmann is sharing materials since ever on his
> web site. Though I can't see to what extent it loads PD files… I did
> believe that it loads audio WAV files… sincerely I don't know
> Nebulae at all, I purchased MN Phonogene, tried it for few weeks and
> gave it away since it seemed just crap to me, compared to granular
> synthesis software which do the job more efficiently for sure. Of
> course I am not a pure fanatic of modular synthesis, since I can use
> pc without shame.
> 
> Beginners prefer pre patched modules (for instance, MN Wogglebug which
> can be replicated by coupling few doepfer modules) just because they
> are beginners: afraid of having to dedicate too many hours to learn
> several functions and schemes in a short time. Then pre patched
> modules need less room in the racks and, as everyone experienced, they
> get filled very fast!
> :-)
> 
> Diego
>

Re: [Doepfer_a100] A Verdict.

2017-02-11 by james.husted@mac.com

The original firmware did not load PD files but the last update does, They used to have a PD template on their Github site (https://github.com/qubitelectronix <https://github.com/qubitelectronix>) that enabled connections to the front panel controls. Basically the Nebulae is a Raspberry Pi with some added bits. All you have to do is put the PD file in the root of the SDcard and it is seen at boot up  and is run. They also have a few “alternate instruments” on their Github site that are PD instruments to download. The Nebulae is no longer in production so you will have to get a used one. The version of the Raspberry Pi they used was updated to a new version and they were going to update the module but I guess they changed their minds. I also runs CSound files and I think MAX ones too but I don’t know how complicated they can get. The onboard memory can only hold 9 mins of sound and the programs share the same memory. I have no experience at loading PD files, I have just tried out the example files they had posted. 
-James  
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> On Feb 11, 2017, at 11:43 AM, Diego Ragnini diegora@free.fr [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Does Nebulae load Pure Data files? That's amazing, really! I love that software! Thomas Brinkmann is sharing materials since ever on his web site. Though I can't see to what extent it loads PD files… I did believe that it loads audio WAV files… sincerely I don't know Nebulae at all, I purchased MN Phonogene, tried it for few weeks and gave it away since it seemed just crap to me, compared to granular synthesis software which do the job more efficiently for sure. Of course I am not a pure fanatic of modular synthesis, since I can use pc without shame. 
> 
> Beginners prefer pre patched modules (for instance, MN Wogglebug which can be replicated by coupling few doepfer modules) just because they are beginners: afraid of having to dedicate too many hours to learn several functions and schemes in a short time. Then pre patched modules need less room in the racks and, as everyone experienced, they get filled very fast!
> :-)
> 
> Diego
> 
> Il giorno 11/feb/2017, alle ore 19:33, james.husted@mac.com <mailto:james.husted@mac.com> [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>> ha scritto:
> 
>> When I say “whacky modules” I guess I mean more exotic modules. You can replicate modules like MakeNoise Maths with a bunch of Doepfer modules, as you can with many “east coast” multi-modules, but I have a granular/wave player (the qu-bit Nebulae) that would be not replicated with Doepfer modules as fart as I know (You can load your own Pure Data files in it for instance). I also have a ADDAC101 Wave player that can’t be match by the Doepfer Sample player module plus other Doepfer modules. My company (Synthwerks) makes a few modules that there are no Doepfer equivalents or can be made by combining modules (that is why we make them). This is NOT a diss or slight to Doepfer in ANY way. Just a different philosophy by makers. Doepfer will probably never make an Orthogonal Devices ER-301 Sound Computer or DSP effects units either. That is what is great about the Eurorack marketplace, there are people making ALL kinds of stuff out there (some whose purpose and uses baffle me). Companies like Doepfer and Analogue Systems, that have a wide catalog, will always find a way into people’s rigs.
>> -James
>> 
>> James Husted, Designer, Synthwerks LLC • www.synthwerks.com <http://www.synthwerks.com/> • james@synthwerks.com <mailto:james@synthwerks.com> • info@synthwerks.com <mailto:info@synthwerks.com>
>> 
>> > On Feb 11, 2017, at 12:49 AM, Bakis Sirros synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com <mailto:synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com> [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 'most of the wacky exotic modules functions can be patched with a few Doepfer modules', indeed, true! ok, for some functions would not only be needed a few doepfer modules, would require more than a few modules, but still this sentence is true.
>> > 
>> > also, me too, i now have a big DoepferA100/euro modular, but still the heart of my system is Doepfer A100.
>> > 
>> > best regards,
>> > Bakis.
>> > 
>> > 
>> >  
>> > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds | [Doepfer_a100] group owner | www. parallel - worlds - music. com | www. facebook. com/ parallelworldsmusic | www. DiN. org. uk
>> > 
>> > 
>> > From: "achtung_999 heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com <mailto:heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com> [Doepfer_a100]" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>>
>> > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> 
>> > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 2:39 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] A Verdict.
>> > 
>> > Most of the wacky exotic modules functions can be patched with a few Doepfer modules.
>> > Problem is that most people nowadays seem to completely oversee why modular is so cool in the first place: Patching your own intricate processes. 
>> > I started with a Doepfer system in 2004 and by now it has quite some modules from other manufacturers but the heart is still Doepfer. I built myself a few of the EuroSerge modules from Random Source and Elby because I have a thing for the crazy functionality Serge has but don't get me wrong Doepfer stuff is still the core of my system. And will always be I think :D
>> > 
>> > Ernst
>> > 
>> > 
>> >  
>> > 
>> > On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 6:35 PM, james.husted@mac.com <mailto:james.husted@mac.com> [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
>> >  
>> > To me, Doepfer modules are the foundation on which a well rounded synthesizer system is built. Get the whacky, exotic modules from other makers but the basic modules, the “used in every patch” modules will always be Doepfer in my rig.
>> > 
>> > -James 
>> > James Husted, Designer, Synthwerks LLC • www.synthwerks.com <http://www.synthwerks.com/> • james@synthwerks.com <mailto:james@synthwerks.com> • info@synthwerks.com <mailto:info@synthwerks.com>
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] A Verdict.

2017-02-11 by Diego Ragnini

Absolutely MARTIN Brinkmann, sorry !
:-)

The more I use Doepfer modules the more I enthusiastically adore them. They are also so much appealing to me because of their “look”: such a spartan design which makes me feel at ease with the sounds coming out from them, just like I would with pure vintage material, instead of dealing with panels decorated with uncertain taste and pastry esthetics.

Endless thanks to Dieter for his initiative to start up in the middle of the nineties.

My only doubt concerns the slightly heavy course of the pots, sure you discussed enough about it many times… In few circumstances I would have preferred to can make rapid changes, rather than smooth ones.

As for the comparison done few mails ago between Doepfer and Buchla (the original vs I hope), I do believe that the ladder features components which likely couldn't be found into the Doepfer modules without being obliged to sell them at much higher prices. Just don't know. Somebody told me that pots, for instance, adopted by the majority of ER modules producers are at least 10 times cheaper than those used by Moog. I still don't know, though I am sure that such a debate doesn't affect, anyway and anyhow, the value and quality of creation, having witnessed, as listener and music lover, thousands of beautiful tunes made out of the cheapest instruments ever.

Best,
Diego

Il giorno 11/feb/2017, alle ore 21:41, "mars@pingdynasty.com [Doepfer_a100]" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> ha scritto:

Martin Brinkmann, maybe?
Just having a look at his patches now, some great looking stuff.
AFAIK the Nebulae is powered by a Raspberry Pi and runs LibPD, a
small-ish Pd interpreter.
There are other solutions, e.g. using the Heavy compiler which can
generate optimised code for different embedded architectures.

My own company Rebel Technology makes the OWL Modular, which uses Heavy
to run Pd. Then the OWL is also programmable in C++, FAUST and most
recently Max Gen (end plug).

As a modular maker, I wouldn't bother to make anything that already
exists: another resonant low pass filter or ADSR for example. Not unless
I felt it had a unique feature which made it worthwhile. Product
development is really hard, and if you're not innovating then I don't
see the point. We are all really lucky with Eurorack that Dieter has
made such an amazing range of quality modules, which you can combine to
build just about any type of modular system. It means that as a small
maker I can focus on the unique bits that I want to contribute. This in
fact is the very reason I do Eurorack.

Martin

On 2017-02-11 19:43, Diego Ragnini diegora@free.fr [Doepfer_a100] wrote:
> Does Nebulae load Pure Data files? That's amazing, really! I love
> that software! Thomas Brinkmann is sharing materials since ever on his
> web site. Though I can't see to what extent it loads PD files… I did
> believe that it loads audio WAV files… sincerely I don't know
> Nebulae at all, I purchased MN Phonogene, tried it for few weeks and
> gave it away since it seemed just crap to me, compared to granular
> synthesis software which do the job more efficiently for sure. Of
> course I am not a pure fanatic of modular synthesis, since I can use
> pc without shame.
>
> Beginners prefer pre patched modules (for instance, MN Wogglebug which
> can be replicated by coupling few doepfer modules) just because they
> are beginners: afraid of having to dedicate too many hours to learn
> several functions and schemes in a short time. Then pre patched
> modules need less room in the racks and, as everyone experienced, they
> get filled very fast!
> :-)
>
> Diego
>


Re: [Doepfer_a100] A Verdict.

2017-02-12 by vytis.puronas@yahoo.com

I have an 18U 100% Doepfer system I have carefully assembled in order to produce complex west coast sounds and sequences. For me Doepfer system A-100 is the ultimate liberation from prejudice, worn out tricks and getting stuck in a comfort zone. I have never been more productive and my music has never sounded as interesting. Moreso, I love the grayscale lab aesthetic.

Let me tell you this:
Over the last few years I have had the luxury of owning and extensively using 'high end' and 'whacky' modules by just about every popular manufacturer, including Verbos, Make Noise, Sputnik, Mutable Instruments, Wiard, Intellijel etc. Last year I sold everything off (except for the Doepfer modules I had) to fund a Buchla system. At that point, however, I have decided to stop for a moment and evaluate my ultimate goals and the means to achieve them. I concentrated on building an all-Doepfer system instead as I have carefully compared the oscillators, FM and waveshaping options and found that I am able to achieve on the A-100 the sounds I had in my mind, without any predetermined paths, tricks and 'philosophies' imposed on me by others. Doepfer A-100 was the only system permitting me to design according to my own 'philosophy' from the ground up. For digital stuff it's much more flexible just doing it in Pure Data on a computer or even an iPad. Menu diving and complicated button combinations on a modular is just not inviting to me at all. Thank you Dieter for not going this route.

At this point I have the core of my system consisting of 4 x A-110-4 QTZVCOs, all the waveshapers including A-126 frequency shifter, some of the most amazing filters I have heard. To me, Doepfer is not just about 'utility' modules. Yes, Dieter's utility modules are super strong, but the sound of the A-110-4, for example, is hardly matched by anything else in the analog realm. On any modular platform. I make very melodic music, and I have decided to make my own stage addressable sequencer from A-152 + A-138m + A-151. Doepfer offers you the freedom to go for this, or get the A-155 + A-154. How amazing is that!

Doepfer A-100 is not about economical decisions either. Maths is cheaper, so is Furthrrr Generator, so is Rene, so is Optomix or Wogglebug. Even a Buchla 208 isn't significantly more expensive when you try to replicate it function for function. But then you get stuck with a set of functions you can't use for other tasks. For me Doepfer A-100 is the freedom to connect the modules together when I need a complex oscillator or use them individually for other purposes when I don't.

Thank you Dieter Doepfer for bringing to me the ultimate music making machine!

All the very best wishes from Vilnius, Lithuania
Vytis Puronas
http://soundcloud.com/sfx-lab



---In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, <diegora@...> wrote :

Absolutely MARTIN Brinkmann, sorry !
:-)

The more I use Doepfer modules the more I enthusiastically adore them. They are also so much appealing to me because of their “look”: such a spartan design which makes me feel at ease with the sounds coming out from them, just like I would with pure vintage material, instead of dealing with panels decorated with uncertain taste and pastry esthetics.

Endless thanks to Dieter for his initiative to start up in the middle of the nineties.

My only doubt concerns the slightly heavy course of the pots, sure you discussed enough about it many times… In few circumstances I would have preferred to can make rapid changes, rather than smooth ones.

As for the comparison done few mails ago between Doepfer and Buchla (the original vs I hope), I do believe that the ladder features components which likely couldn't be found into the Doepfer modules without being obliged to sell them at much higher prices. Just don't know. Somebody told me that pots, for instance, adopted by the majority of ER modules producers are at least 10 times cheaper than those used by Moog. I still don't know, though I am sure that such a debate doesn't affect, anyway and anyhow, the value and quality of creation, having witnessed, as listener and music lover, thousands of beautiful tunes made out of the cheapest instruments ever.

Best,
Diego

Il giorno 11/feb/2017, alle ore 21:41, "mars@... [Doepfer_a100]" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> ha scritto:

Martin Brinkmann, maybe?
Just having a look at his patches now, some great looking stuff.
AFAIK the Nebulae is powered by a Raspberry Pi and runs LibPD, a
small-ish Pd interpreter.
There are other solutions, e.g. using the Heavy compiler which can
generate optimised code for different embedded architectures.

My own company Rebel Technology makes the OWL Modular, which uses Heavy
to run Pd. Then the OWL is also programmable in C++, FAUST and most
recently Max Gen (end plug).

As a modular maker, I wouldn't bother to make anything that already
exists: another resonant low pass filter or ADSR for example. Not unless
I felt it had a unique feature which made it worthwhile. Product
development is really hard, and if you're not innovating then I don't
see the point. We are all really lucky with Eurorack that Dieter has
made such an amazing range of quality modules, which you can combine to
build just about any type of modular system. It means that as a small
maker I can focus on the unique bits that I want to contribute. This in
fact is the very reason I do Eurorack.

Martin

On 2017-02-11 19:43, Diego Ragnini diegora@... [Doepfer_a100] wrote:
> Does Nebulae load Pure Data files? That's amazing, really! I love
> that software! Thomas Brinkmann is sharing materials since ever on his
> web site. Though I can't see to what extent it loads PD files… I did
> believe that it loads audio WAV files… sincerely I don't know
> Nebulae at all, I purchased MN Phonogene, tried it for few weeks and
> gave it away since it seemed just crap to me, compared to granular
> synthesis software which do the job more efficiently for sure. Of
> course I am not a pure fanatic of modular synthesis, since I can use
> pc without shame.
>
> Beginners prefer pre patched modules (for instance, MN Wogglebug which
> can be replicated by coupling few doepfer modules) just because they
> are beginners: afraid of having to dedicate too many hours to learn
> several functions and schemes in a short time. Then pre patched
> modules need less room in the racks and, as everyone experienced, they
> get filled very fast!
> :-)
>
> Diego
>


Re: [Doepfer_a100] A Verdict.

2017-02-12 by Bakis Sirros

well said Vytis! it seems that you are even a bigger fan of Doepfer than i am?   :-D
 Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds | [Doepfer_a100] group owner | www. parallel - worlds - music. com | www. facebook. com/ parallelworldsmusic |  www. DiN. org. uk

      From: "vytis.puronas@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100]" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
 To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2017 8:58 AM
 Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] A Verdict.
   
    I have an 18U 100% Doepfer system I have carefully assembled in order to produce complex west coast sounds and sequences. For me Doepfer system A-100 is the ultimate liberation from prejudice, worn out tricks and getting stuck in a comfort zone. I have never been more productive and my music has never sounded as interesting. Moreso, I love the grayscale lab aesthetic.

Let me tell you this:
Over the last few years I have had the luxury of owning and extensively using 'high end' and 'whacky' modules by just about every popular manufacturer, including Verbos, Make Noise, Sputnik, Mutable Instruments, Wiard, Intellijel etc. Last year I sold everything off (except for the Doepfer modules I had) to fund a Buchla system. At that point, however, I have decided to stop for a moment and evaluate my ultimate goals and the means to achieve them. I concentrated on building an all-Doepfer system instead as I have carefully compared the oscillators, FM and waveshaping options and found that I am able to achieve on the A-100 the sounds I had in my mind, without any predetermined paths, tricks and 'philosophies' imposed on me by others. Doepfer A-100 was the only system permitting me to design according to my own 'philosophy' from the ground up. For digital stuff it's much more flexible just doing it in Pure Data on a computer or even an iPad. Menu diving and complicated button combinations on a modular is just not inviting to me at all. Thank you Dieter for not going this route.

At this point I have the core of my system consisting of 4 x A-110-4 QTZVCOs, all the waveshapers including A-126 frequency shifter, some of the most amazing filters I have heard. To me, Doepfer is not just about 'utility' modules. Yes, Dieter's utility modules are super strong, but the sound of the A-110-4, for example, is hardly matched by anything else in the analog realm. On any modular platform. I make very melodic music, and I have decided to make my own stage addressable sequencer from A-152 + A-138m + A-151. Doepfer offers you the freedom to go for this, or get the A-155 + A-154. How amazing is that!
Doepfer A-100 is not about economical decisions either. Maths is cheaper, so is Furthrrr Generator, so is Rene, so is Optomix or Wogglebug. Even a Buchla 208 isn't significantly more expensive when you try to replicate it function for function. But then you get stuck with a set of functions you can't use for other tasks. For me Doepfer A-100 is the freedom to connect the modules together when I need a complex oscillator or use them individually for other purposes when I don't.

Thank you Dieter Doepfer for bringing to me the ultimate music making machine!

All the very best wishes from Vilnius, Lithuania
Vytis Puronas
http://soundcloud.com/sfx-lab



---In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, <diegora@...> wrote :

Absolutely MARTIN Brinkmann, sorry !:-)
The more I use Doepfer modules the more I enthusiastically adore them. They are also so much appealing to me because of their “look”: such a spartan design which makes me feel at ease with the sounds coming out from them, just like I would with pure vintage material, instead of dealing with panels decorated with uncertain taste and pastry esthetics. 
Endless thanks to Dieter for his initiative to start up in the middle of the nineties. 
My only doubt concerns the slightly heavy course of the pots, sure you discussed enough about it many times… In few circumstances I would have preferred to can make rapid changes, rather than smooth ones.
As for the comparison done few mails ago between Doepfer and Buchla (the original vs I hope), I do believe that the ladder features components which likely couldn't be found into the Doepfer modules without being obliged to sell them at much higher prices. Just don't know. Somebody told me that pots, for instance, adopted by the majority of ER modules producers are at least 10 times cheaper than those used by Moog. I still don't know, though I am sure that such a debate doesn't affect, anyway and anyhow, the value and quality of creation, having witnessed, as listener and music lover, thousands of beautiful tunes made out of the cheapest instruments ever.
Best, Diego

Il giorno 11/feb/2017, alle ore 21:41, "mars@... [Doepfer_a100]" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> ha scritto:


 Martin Brinkmann, maybe?
Just having a look at his patches now, some great looking stuff.
AFAIK the Nebulae is powered by a Raspberry Pi and runs LibPD, a 
small-ish Pd interpreter.
There are other solutions, e.g. using the Heavy compiler which can 
generate optimised code for different embedded architectures.

My own company Rebel Technology makes the OWL Modular, which uses Heavy 
to run Pd. Then the OWL is also programmable in C++, FAUST and most 
recently Max Gen (end plug).

As a modular maker, I wouldn't bother to make anything that already 
exists: another resonant low pass filter or ADSR for example. Not unless 
I felt it had a unique feature which made it worthwhile. Product 
development is really hard, and if you're not innovating then I don't 
see the point. We are all really lucky with Eurorack that Dieter has 
made such an amazing range of quality modules, which you can combine to 
build just about any type of modular system. It means that as a small 
maker I can focus on the unique bits that I want to contribute. This in 
fact is the very reason I do Eurorack.

Martin
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On 2017-02-11 19:43, Diego Ragnini diegora@... [Doepfer_a100] wrote:
> Does Nebulae load Pure Data files? That's amazing, really! I love
> that software! Thomas Brinkmann is sharing materials since ever on his
> web site. Though I can't see to what extent it loads PD files… I did
> believe that it loads audio WAV files… sincerely I don't know
> Nebulae at all, I purchased MN Phonogene, tried it for few weeks and
> gave it away since it seemed just crap to me, compared to granular
> synthesis software which do the job more efficiently for sure. Of
> course I am not a pure fanatic of modular synthesis, since I can use
> pc without shame.
> 
> Beginners prefer pre patched modules (for instance, MN Wogglebug which
> can be replicated by coupling few doepfer modules) just because they
> are beginners: afraid of having to dedicate too many hours to learn
> several functions and schemes in a short time. Then pre patched
> modules need less room in the racks and, as everyone experienced, they
> get filled very fast!
> :-)
> 
> Diego
>

Re: [Doepfer_a100] A Verdict.

2017-02-12 by Jacco Ville

Vytis, wonderful words. 
And true to my way of thinking. 

Cheers

Jacco Ville

Sent from my IPhone. 
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> Op 12 feb. 2017 om 11:10 heeft Bakis Sirros synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> well said Vytis! it seems that you are even a bigger fan of Doepfer than i am?   :-D
>  
> Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds | [Doepfer_a100] group owner | www. parallel - worlds - music. com | www. facebook. com/ parallelworldsmusic |  www. DiN. org. uk
> 
> 
> From: "vytis.puronas@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100]" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2017 8:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] A Verdict.
> 
>  
> I have an 18U 100% Doepfer system I have carefully assembled in order to produce complex west coast sounds and sequences. For me Doepfer system A-100 is the ultimate liberation from prejudice, worn out tricks and getting stuck in a comfort zone. I have never been more productive and my music has never sounded as interesting. Moreso, I love the grayscale lab aesthetic.
> 
> Let me tell you this:
> Over the last few years I have had the luxury of owning and extensively using 'high end' and 'whacky' modules by just about every popular manufacturer, including Verbos, Make Noise, Sputnik, Mutable Instruments, Wiard, Intellijel etc. Last year I sold everything off (except for the Doepfer modules I had) to fund a Buchla system. At that point, however, I have decided to stop for a moment and evaluate my ultimate goals and the means to achieve them. I concentrated on building an all-Doepfer system instead as I have carefully compared the oscillators, FM and waveshaping options and found that I am able to achieve on the A-100 the sounds I had in my mind, without any predetermined paths, tricks and 'philosophies' imposed on me by others. Doepfer A-100 was the only system permitting me to design according to my own 'philosophy' from the ground up. For digital stuff it's much more flexible just doing it in Pure Data on a computer or even an iPad. Menu diving and complicated button combinations on a modular is just not inviting to me at all. Thank you Dieter for not going this route.
> 
> At this point I have the core of my system consisting of 4 x A-110-4 QTZVCOs, all the waveshapers including A-126 frequency shifter, some of the most amazing filters I have heard. To me, Doepfer is not just about 'utility' modules. Yes, Dieter's utility modules are super strong, but the sound of the A-110-4, for example, is hardly matched by anything else in the analog realm. On any modular platform. I make very melodic music, and I have decided to make my own stage addressable sequencer from A-152 + A-138m + A-151. Doepfer offers you the freedom to go for this, or get the A-155 + A-154. How amazing is that!
> 
> Doepfer A-100 is not about economical decisions either. Maths is cheaper, so is Furthrrr Generator, so is Rene, so is Optomix or Wogglebug. Even a Buchla 208 isn't significantly more expensive when you try to replicate it function for function. But then you get stuck with a set of functions you can't use for other tasks. For me Doepfer A-100 is the freedom to connect the modules together when I need a complex oscillator or use them individually for other purposes when I don't.
> 
> Thank you Dieter Doepfer for bringing to me the ultimate music making machine!
> 
> All the very best wishes from Vilnius, Lithuania
> Vytis Puronas
> http://soundcloud.com/sfx-lab
> 
> 
> 
> ---In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, <diegora@...> wrote :
> 
> Absolutely MARTIN Brinkmann, sorry !
> :-)
> 
> The more I use Doepfer modules the more I enthusiastically adore them. They are also so much appealing to me because of their “look”: such a spartan design which makes me feel at ease with the sounds coming out from them, just like I would with pure vintage material, instead of dealing with panels decorated with uncertain taste and pastry esthetics. 
> 
> Endless thanks to Dieter for his initiative to start up in the middle of the nineties. 
> 
> My only doubt concerns the slightly heavy course of the pots, sure you discussed enough about it many times… In few circumstances I would have preferred to can make rapid changes, rather than smooth ones.
> 
> As for the comparison done few mails ago between Doepfer and Buchla (the original vs I hope), I do believe that the ladder features components which likely couldn't be found into the Doepfer modules without being obliged to sell them at much higher prices. Just don't know. Somebody told me that pots, for instance, adopted by the majority of ER modules producers are at least 10 times cheaper than those used by Moog. I still don't know, though I am sure that such a debate doesn't affect, anyway and anyhow, the value and quality of creation, having witnessed, as listener and music lover, thousands of beautiful tunes made out of the cheapest instruments ever.
> 
> Best, 
> Diego
> 
>> Il giorno 11/feb/2017, alle ore 21:41, "mars@... [Doepfer_a100]" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> ha scritto:
>> 
>>  
>> Martin Brinkmann, maybe?
>> Just having a look at his patches now, some great looking stuff.
>> AFAIK the Nebulae is powered by a Raspberry Pi and runs LibPD, a 
>> small-ish Pd interpreter.
>> There are other solutions, e.g. using the Heavy compiler which can 
>> generate optimised code for different embedded architectures.
>> 
>> My own company Rebel Technology makes the OWL Modular, which uses Heavy 
>> to run Pd. Then the OWL is also programmable in C++, FAUST and most 
>> recently Max Gen (end plug).
>> 
>> As a modular maker, I wouldn't bother to make anything that already 
>> exists: another resonant low pass filter or ADSR for example. Not unless 
>> I felt it had a unique feature which made it worthwhile. Product 
>> development is really hard, and if you're not innovating then I don't 
>> see the point. We are all really lucky with Eurorack that Dieter has 
>> made such an amazing range of quality modules, which you can combine to 
>> build just about any type of modular system. It means that as a small 
>> maker I can focus on the unique bits that I want to contribute. This in 
>> fact is the very reason I do Eurorack.
>> 
>> Martin
>> 
>> On 2017-02-11 19:43, Diego Ragnini diegora@... [Doepfer_a100] wrote:
>> > Does Nebulae load Pure Data files? That's amazing, really! I love
>> > that software! Thomas Brinkmann is sharing materials since ever on his
>> > web site. Though I can't see to what extent it loads PD files… I did
>> > believe that it loads audio WAV files… sincerely I don't know
>> > Nebulae at all, I purchased MN Phonogene, tried it for few weeks and
>> > gave it away since it seemed just crap to me, compared to granular
>> > synthesis software which do the job more efficiently for sure. Of
>> > course I am not a pure fanatic of modular synthesis, since I can use
>> > pc without shame.
>> > 
>> > Beginners prefer pre patched modules (for instance, MN Wogglebug which
>> > can be replicated by coupling few doepfer modules) just because they
>> > are beginners: afraid of having to dedicate too many hours to learn
>> > several functions and schemes in a short time. Then pre patched
>> > modules need less room in the racks and, as everyone experienced, they
>> > get filled very fast!
>> > :-)
>> > 
>> > Diego
>> > 
> 
> 
> 
>

AW: [Doepfer_a100] A Verdict.

2017-02-13 by yahoo@doepfer.de

Thanks a lot to all of you for the kind words. That's why we keep at it,
listen to the needs and suggestions of our customers and continue to design
more new modules ....

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

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