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Quantizing to Alternative tuning

2014-10-09 by David Kellett

Hi,

I'm wondering if anyone knows of a module or modules that could be set up to take control voltages and quantized them to a non western scale. I'm thinking about making a price of music that is tuned to harmonics and would like to be able to quantize sequencers, other controllers to pitches that I determine beforehand. I hope that makes sense. 

Of course I could laboriously tune sequencers to the correct pitches but I don't know how to do this with say the output of a random or LFO source or ribbon  controller etc. 

Any ideas?

David

www.movingisliving.co.uk

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Quantizing to Alternative tuning

2014-10-09 by JS Home

One approach would be an Ardcore module set up as a quantiser (there is a quantiser sketch in the core set) which you could then tune as you wished

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> On 9 Oct 2014, at 13:06, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm wondering if anyone knows of a module or modules that could be set up to take control voltages and quantized them to a non western scale. I'm thinking about making a price of music that is tuned to harmonics and would like to be able to quantize sequencers, other controllers to pitches that I determine beforehand. I hope that makes sense. 
> 
> Of course I could laboriously tune sequencers to the correct pitches but I don't know how to do this with say the output of a random or LFO source or ribbon  controller etc. 
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> David
> 
> www.movingisliving.co.uk
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> Posted by: David Kellett <davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com>
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> Yahoo Groups Links
> 
> 
>

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Quantizing to Alternative tuning

2014-10-09 by David Kellett

That sounds doable - though I'm no programmer. I shall check it out. 

Another use would be to pull the stored random quarter tones of the A149-1 to scales that contain quarter tones and semitones - like Arabic music for instance. 

Any other ideas?

David

www.movingisliving.co.uk

Sent from my iPhone 
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> On 9 Oct 2014, at 13:19, JS Home jss9h@aol.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> One approach would be an Ardcore module set up as a quantiser (there is a quantiser sketch in the core set) which you could then tune as you wished
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On 9 Oct 2014, at 13:06, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I'm wondering if anyone knows of a module or modules that could be set up to take control voltages and quantized them to a non western scale. I'm thinking about making a price of music that is tuned to harmonics and would like to be able to quantize sequencers, other controllers to pitches that I determine beforehand. I hope that makes sense. 
> > 
> > Of course I could laboriously tune sequencers to the correct pitches but I don't know how to do this with say the output of a random or LFO source or ribbon controller etc. 
> > 
> > Any ideas?
> > 
> > David
> > 
> > www.movingisliving.co.uk
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone 
> > 
> > ------------------------------------
> > Posted by: David Kellett <davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com>
> > ------------------------------------
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------------
> > 
> > Yahoo Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> > 
>

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Quantizing to Alternative tuning

2014-10-09 by achtung_999

I think the Ardcore is indeed the easiest way to go. I was thinking of a microtonal quantizer myself this week. I don't know why... but it just crossed my mind.
My conclusion then was also an arduino based solution like the Ardcore.

Grzt

Ernst
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On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 2:56 PM, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

That sounds doable - though I'm no programmer. I shall check it out.

Another use would be to pull the stored random quarter tones of the A149-1 to scales that contain quarter tones and semitones - like Arabic music for instance.

Any other ideas?

David

www.movingisliving.co.uk

Sent from my iPhone

On 9 Oct 2014, at 13:19, JS Home jss9h@aol.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

One approach would be an Ardcore module set up as a quantiser (there is a quantiser sketch in the core set) which you could then tune as you wished

Sent from my iPhone

> On 9 Oct 2014, at 13:06, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm wondering if anyone knows of a module or modules that could be set up to take control voltages and quantized them to a non western scale. I'm thinking about making a price of music that is tuned to harmonics and would like to be able to quantize sequencers, other controllers to pitches that I determine beforehand. I hope that makes sense.
>
> Of course I could laboriously tune sequencers to the correct pitches but I don't know how to do this with say the output of a random or LFO source or ribbon controller etc.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> David
>
> www.movingisliving.co.uk
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> ------------------------------------
> Posted by: David Kellett <davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo Groups Links
>
>
>


Re: [Doepfer_a100] Quantizing to Alternative tuning

2014-10-09 by David Kellett

I shall have a serious look at the Ardcore then. It sounds as though it would be good for a lot of odder things. But the trouble would be that I think I'd need possibly several channels of quantization and that's gonna get expensive!! 

- Ernst, what where you thinking of doing with microtonal tunings?

Thanks for the input,

David

www.movingisliving.co.uk

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> On 9 Oct 2014, at 16:28, achtung_999 heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> I think the Ardcore is indeed the easiest way to go. I was thinking of a microtonal quantizer myself this week. I don't know why... but it just crossed my mind.
> My conclusion then was also an arduino based solution like the Ardcore.
> 
> Grzt
> 
> Ernst
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 2:56 PM, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>  
>> That sounds doable - though I'm no programmer. I shall check it out. 
>> 
>> Another use would be to pull the stored random quarter tones of the A149-1 to scales that contain quarter tones and semitones - like Arabic music for instance. 
>> 
>> Any other ideas?
>> 
>> David
>> 
>> www.movingisliving.co.uk
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 
>> 
>>> On 9 Oct 2014, at 13:19, JS Home jss9h@aol.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> One approach would be an Ardcore module set up as a quantiser (there is a quantiser sketch in the core set) which you could then tune as you wished
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> > On 9 Oct 2014, at 13:06, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>> > 
>>> > Hi,
>>> > 
>>> > I'm wondering if anyone knows of a module or modules that could be set up to take control voltages and quantized them to a non western scale. I'm thinking about making a price of music that is tuned to harmonics and would like to be able to quantize sequencers, other controllers to pitches that I determine beforehand. I hope that makes sense. 
>>> > 
>>> > Of course I could laboriously tune sequencers to the correct pitches but I don't know how to do this with say the output of a random or LFO source or ribbon controller etc. 
>>> > 
>>> > Any ideas?
>>> > 
>>> > David
>>> > 
>>> > www.movingisliving.co.uk
>>> > 
>>> > Sent from my iPhone 
>>> > 
>>> > ------------------------------------
>>> > Posted by: David Kellett <davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com>
>>> > ------------------------------------
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > ------------------------------------
>>> > 
>>> > Yahoo Groups Links
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> >
> 
>

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Quantizing to Alternative tuning

2014-10-09 by Martin Fay

I thought an Ardcore had 8-bit D/A, that would not be enough precision  
for microtuning which requires cent-level (bare minimum!) precision?

Martin

Sent from my iPhone

On 9 Oct 2014, at 16:28, "achtung_999 heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com  
[Doepfer_a100]" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> I think the Ardcore is indeed the easiest way to go. I was thinking  
> of a microtonal quantizer myself this week. I don't know why... but  
> it just crossed my mind.
> My conclusion then was also an arduino based solution like the  
> Ardcore.
>
> Grzt
>
> Ernst
>
> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 2:56 PM, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com 
>  [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> That sounds doable - though I'm no programmer. I shall check it out.
>
> Another use would be to pull the stored random quarter tones of the  
> A149-1 to scales that contain quarter tones and semitones - like  
> Arabic music for instance.
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> David
>
> www.movingisliving.co.uk
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 9 Oct 2014, at 13:19, JS Home jss9h@aol.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com 
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> One approach would be an Ardcore module set up as a quantiser  
>> (there is a quantiser sketch in the core set) which you could then  
>> tune as you wished
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On 9 Oct 2014, at 13:06, David Kellett  
>> davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I'm wondering if anyone knows of a module or modules that could  
>> be set up to take control voltages and quantized them to a non  
>> western scale. I'm thinking about making a price of music that is  
>> tuned to harmonics and would like to be able to quantize  
>> sequencers, other controllers to pitches that I determine  
>> beforehand. I hope that makes sense.
>> >
>> > Of course I could laboriously tune sequencers to the correct  
>> pitches but I don't know how to do this with say the output of a  
>> random or LFO source or ribbon controller etc.
>> >
>> > Any ideas?
>> >
>> > David
>> >
>> > www.movingisliving.co.uk
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
>> > Posted by: David Kellett <davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com>
>> > ------------------------------------
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Yahoo Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
>
>

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Quantizing to Alternative tuning

2014-10-09 by achtung_999

Interesting thought indeed!
I had not spend to much thought on it as you see :D

I was just thinking about being able to tune beatings of two oscillators with two (more correctly said perhaps) semi-microtonal quantizers..
It was just a quick thought though...

Ernst

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On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Martin Fay martin@martinfay.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I thought an Ardcore had 8-bit D/A, that would not be enough precision for microtuning which requires cent-level (bare minimum!) precision?

Martin

Sent from my iPhone

On 9 Oct 2014, at 16:28, "achtung_999 heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100]" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I think the Ardcore is indeed the easiest way to go. I was thinking of a microtonal quantizer myself this week. I don9;t know why... but it just crossed my mind.
My conclusion then was also an arduino based solution like the Ardcore.

Grzt

Ernst

On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 2:56 PM, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

That sounds doable - though I'm no programmer. I shall check it out.

Another use would be to pull the stored random quarter tones of the A149-1 to scales that contain quarter tones and semitones - like Arabic music for instance.

Any other ideas?

David

www.movingisliving.co.uk

Sent from my iPhone

On 9 Oct 2014, at 13:19, JS Home jss9h@aol.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

One approach would be an Ardcore module set up as a quantiser (there is a quantiser sketch in the core set) which you could then tune as you wished

Sent from my iPhone

> On 9 Oct 2014, at 13:06, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm wondering if anyone knows of a module or modules that could be set up to take control voltages and quantized them to a non western scale. I'm thinking about making a price of music that is tuned to harmonics and would like to be able to quantize sequencers, other controllers to pitches that I determine beforehand. I hope that makes sense.
>
> Of course I could laboriously tune sequencers to the correct pitches but I don't know how to do this with say the output of a random or LFO source or ribbon controller etc.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> David
>
> www.movingisliving.co.uk
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> ------------------------------------
> Posted by: David Kellett <davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo Groups Links
>
>
>



Re: [Doepfer_a100] Quantizing to Alternative tuning

2014-10-09 by Tonko Sekulo

A lot of people are using ES-3 and Silent Way for microtonal scales. Probably you could use ES-3/ES-6 combo as a quantizer for cv sources.

t.
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On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 5:49 PM, achtung_999 heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Interesting thought indeed!
I had not spend to much thought on it as you see :D

I was just thinking about being able to tune beatings of two oscillators with two (more correctly said perhaps) semi-microtonal quantizers..
It was just a quick thought though...

Ernst


On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Martin Fay martin@martinfay.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I thought an Ardcore had 8-bit D/A, that would not be enough precision for microtuning which requires cent-level (bare minimum!) precision?

Martin

Sent from my iPhone

On 9 Oct 2014, at 16:28, "achtung_999 heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100]" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I think the Ardcore is indeed the easiest way to go. I was thinking of a microtonal quantizer myself this week. I don9;t know why... but it just crossed my mind.
My conclusion then was also an arduino based solution like the Ardcore.

Grzt

Ernst

On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 2:56 PM, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

That sounds doable - though I'm no programmer. I shall check it out.

Another use would be to pull the stored random quarter tones of the A149-1 to scales that contain quarter tones and semitones - like Arabic music for instance.

Any other ideas?

David

www.movingisliving.co.uk

Sent from my iPhone

On 9 Oct 2014, at 13:19, JS Home jss9h@aol.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

One approach would be an Ardcore module set up as a quantiser (there is a quantiser sketch in the core set) which you could then tune as you wished

Sent from my iPhone

> On 9 Oct 2014, at 13:06, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm wondering if anyone knows of a module or modules that could be set up to take control voltages and quantized them to a non western scale. I'm thinking about making a price of music that is tuned to harmonics and would like to be able to quantize sequencers, other controllers to pitches that I determine beforehand. I hope that makes sense.
>
> Of course I could laboriously tune sequencers to the correct pitches but I don't know how to do this with say the output of a random or LFO source or ribbon controller etc.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> David
>
> www.movingisliving.co.uk
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> ------------------------------------
> Posted by: David Kellett <davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo Groups Links
>
>
>




Re: [Doepfer_a100] Quantizing to Alternative tuning

2014-10-09 by Nathan Cearley

the addac quantizer has microtuning and is super flexible.
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On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Tonko Sekulo oknot24@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

A lot of people are using ES-3 and Silent Way for microtonal scales. Probably you could use ES-3/ES-6 combo as a quantizer for cv sources.

t.

On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 5:49 PM, achtung_999 heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Interesting thought indeed!
I had not spend to much thought on it as you see :D

I was just thinking about being able to tune beatings of two oscillators with two (more correctly said perhaps) semi-microtonal quantizers..
It was just a quick thought though...

Ernst


On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Martin Fay martin@martinfay.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I thought an Ardcore had 8-bit D/A, that would not be enough precision for microtuning which requires cent-level (bare minimum!) precision?

Martin

Sent from my iPhone

On 9 Oct 2014, at 16:28, "achtung_999 heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100]" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I think the Ardcore is indeed the easiest way to go. I was thinking of a microtonal quantizer myself this week. I don9;t know why... but it just crossed my mind.
My conclusion then was also an arduino based solution like the Ardcore.

Grzt

Ernst

On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 2:56 PM, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

That sounds doable - though I'm no programmer. I shall check it out.

Another use would be to pull the stored random quarter tones of the A149-1 to scales that contain quarter tones and semitones - like Arabic music for instance.

Any other ideas?

David

www.movingisliving.co.uk

Sent from my iPhone

On 9 Oct 2014, at 13:19, JS Home jss9h@aol.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

One approach would be an Ardcore module set up as a quantiser (there is a quantiser sketch in the core set) which you could then tune as you wished

Sent from my iPhone

> On 9 Oct 2014, at 13:06, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm wondering if anyone knows of a module or modules that could be set up to take control voltages and quantized them to a non western scale. I'm thinking about making a price of music that is tuned to harmonics and would like to be able to quantize sequencers, other controllers to pitches that I determine beforehand. I hope that makes sense.
>
> Of course I could laboriously tune sequencers to the correct pitches but I don't know how to do this with say the output of a random or LFO source or ribbon controller etc.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> David
>
> www.movingisliving.co.uk
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> ------------------------------------
> Posted by: David Kellett <davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo Groups Links
>
>
>





Re: [Doepfer_a100] Quantizing to Alternative tuning

2014-10-09 by Tonko Sekulo

ADDAC quantizer has some serious issues and it is being updated with a new firmware. No units are being sold until the bugs are removed, see this topic:

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On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Nathan Cearley nathancearley@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

the addac quantizer has microtuning and is super flexible.

On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Tonko Sekulo oknot24@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

A lot of people are using ES-3 and Silent Way for microtonal scales. Probably you could use ES-3/ES-6 combo as a quantizer for cv sources.

t.

On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 5:49 PM, achtung_999 heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Interesting thought indeed!
I had not spend to much thought on it as you see :D

I was just thinking about being able to tune beatings of two oscillators with two (more correctly said perhaps) semi-microtonal quantizers..
It was just a quick thought though...

Ernst


On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Martin Fay martin@martinfay.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I thought an Ardcore had 8-bit D/A, that would not be enough precision for microtuning which requires cent-level (bare minimum!) precision?

Martin

Sent from my iPhone

On 9 Oct 2014, at 16:28, "achtung_999 heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100]" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I think the Ardcore is indeed the easiest way to go. I was thinking of a microtonal quantizer myself this week. I don9;t know why... but it just crossed my mind.
My conclusion then was also an arduino based solution like the Ardcore.

Grzt

Ernst

On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 2:56 PM, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

That sounds doable - though I'm no programmer. I shall check it out.

Another use would be to pull the stored random quarter tones of the A149-1 to scales that contain quarter tones and semitones - like Arabic music for instance.

Any other ideas?

David

www.movingisliving.co.uk

Sent from my iPhone

On 9 Oct 2014, at 13:19, JS Home jss9h@aol.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

One approach would be an Ardcore module set up as a quantiser (there is a quantiser sketch in the core set) which you could then tune as you wished

Sent from my iPhone

> On 9 Oct 2014, at 13:06, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm wondering if anyone knows of a module or modules that could be set up to take control voltages and quantized them to a non western scale. I'm thinking about making a price of music that is tuned to harmonics and would like to be able to quantize sequencers, other controllers to pitches that I determine beforehand. I hope that makes sense.
>
> Of course I could laboriously tune sequencers to the correct pitches but I don't know how to do this with say the output of a random or LFO source or ribbon controller etc.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> David
>
> www.movingisliving.co.uk
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> ------------------------------------
> Posted by: David Kellett <davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo Groups Links
>
>
>






Re: [Doepfer_a100] Quantizing to Alternative tuning

2014-10-09 by David Kellett

Sounds very interesting - I'm trying to download the manual but it seems very slow for some reason. 

David

www.movingisliving.co.uk

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> On 9 Oct 2014, at 17:04, Nathan Cearley nathancearley@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> the addac quantizer has microtuning and is super flexible.  
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Tonko Sekulo oknot24@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>  
>>  A lot of people are using ES-3 and Silent Way for microtonal scales. Probably you could use ES-3/ES-6 combo as a quantizer for cv sources. 
>> 
>> t.
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 5:49 PM, achtung_999 heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Interesting thought indeed! 
>>> I had not spend to much thought on it as you see :D
>>> 
>>> I was just thinking about being able to tune beatings of two oscillators with two (more correctly said perhaps) semi-microtonal quantizers..
>>> It was just a quick thought though...
>>> 
>>> Ernst
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Martin Fay martin@martinfay.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> I thought an Ardcore had 8-bit D/A, that would not be enough precision for microtuning which requires cent-level (bare minimum!) precision?
>>>> 
>>>> Martin 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 9 Oct 2014, at 16:28, "achtung_999 heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100]" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> I think the Ardcore is indeed the easiest way to go. I was thinking of a microtonal quantizer myself this week. I don't know why... but it just crossed my mind.
>>>>> My conclusion then was also an arduino based solution like the Ardcore.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Grzt
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ernst
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 2:56 PM, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> That sounds doable - though I'm no programmer. I shall check it out. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Another use would be to pull the stored random quarter tones of the A149-1 to scales that contain quarter tones and semitones - like Arabic music for instance. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Any other ideas?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> David
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> www.movingisliving.co.uk
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 9 Oct 2014, at 13:19, JS Home jss9h@aol.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> One approach would be an Ardcore module set up as a quantiser (there is a quantiser sketch in the core set) which you could then tune as you wished
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> > On 9 Oct 2014, at 13:06, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>> > Hi,
>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>> > I'm wondering if anyone knows of a module or modules that could be set up to take control voltages and quantized them to a non western scale. I'm thinking about making a price of music that is tuned to harmonics and would like to be able to quantize sequencers, other controllers to pitches that I determine beforehand. I hope that makes sense. 
>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>> > Of course I could laboriously tune sequencers to the correct pitches but I don't know how to do this with say the output of a random or LFO source or ribbon controller etc. 
>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>> > Any ideas?
>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>> > David
>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>> > www.movingisliving.co.uk
>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>> > Sent from my iPhone 
>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>> > ------------------------------------
>>>>>>> > Posted by: David Kellett <davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>> > ------------------------------------
>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>> > ------------------------------------
>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>> > Yahoo Groups Links
>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>> >
> 
>

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Quantizing to Alternative tuning

2014-10-09 by David Kellett

That too is very good to know!!

David

www.movingisliving.co.uk

Sent from my iPhone 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> On 9 Oct 2014, at 17:12, Tonko Sekulo oknot24@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> ADDAC quantizer has some serious issues and it is being updated with a new firmware. No units are being sold until the bugs are removed, see this topic:
> 
> http://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1689582#1689582
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Nathan Cearley nathancearley@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>  
>> the addac quantizer has microtuning and is super flexible.  
>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Tonko Sekulo oknot24@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>  
>>>  A lot of people are using ES-3 and Silent Way for microtonal scales. Probably you could use ES-3/ES-6 combo as a quantizer for cv sources. 
>>> 
>>> t.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 5:49 PM, achtung_999 heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Interesting thought indeed! 
>>>> I had not spend to much thought on it as you see :D
>>>> 
>>>> I was just thinking about being able to tune beatings of two oscillators with two (more correctly said perhaps) semi-microtonal quantizers..
>>>> It was just a quick thought though...
>>>> 
>>>> Ernst
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Martin Fay martin@martinfay.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>> I thought an Ardcore had 8-bit D/A, that would not be enough precision for microtuning which requires cent-level (bare minimum!) precision?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Martin 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 9 Oct 2014, at 16:28, "achtung_999 heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100]" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> I think the Ardcore is indeed the easiest way to go. I was thinking of a microtonal quantizer myself this week. I don't know why... but it just crossed my mind.
>>>>>> My conclusion then was also an arduino based solution like the Ardcore.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Grzt
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ernst
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 2:56 PM, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> That sounds doable - though I'm no programmer. I shall check it out. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Another use would be to pull the stored random quarter tones of the A149-1 to scales that contain quarter tones and semitones - like Arabic music for instance. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Any other ideas?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> www.movingisliving.co.uk
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 9 Oct 2014, at 13:19, JS Home jss9h@aol.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> One approach would be an Ardcore module set up as a quantiser (there is a quantiser sketch in the core set) which you could then tune as you wished
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> > On 9 Oct 2014, at 13:06, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>> > Hi,
>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>> > I'm wondering if anyone knows of a module or modules that could be set up to take control voltages and quantized them to a non western scale. I'm thinking about making a price of music that is tuned to harmonics and would like to be able to quantize sequencers, other controllers to pitches that I determine beforehand. I hope that makes sense. 
>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>> > Of course I could laboriously tune sequencers to the correct pitches but I don't know how to do this with say the output of a random or LFO source or ribbon controller etc. 
>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>> > Any ideas?
>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>> > David
>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>> > www.movingisliving.co.uk
>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>> > Sent from my iPhone 
>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>> > ------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> > Posted by: David Kellett <davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>> > ------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>> > ------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>> > Yahoo Groups Links
>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>> >
> 
>

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Quantizing to Alternative tuning

2014-10-09 by David Kellett

Ummmm I shall have to check that out before any purchase!! Though if the quantizer works for 12 semi tones would other divisions of a bolt be very different? 

David

www.movingisliving.co.uk

Sent from my iPhone 
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> On 9 Oct 2014, at 16:44, Martin Fay martin@martinfay.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> I thought an Ardcore had 8-bit D/A, that would not be enough precision for microtuning which requires cent-level (bare minimum!) precision?
> 
> Martin 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 9 Oct 2014, at 16:28, "achtung_999 heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100]" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> I think the Ardcore is indeed the easiest way to go. I was thinking of a microtonal quantizer myself this week. I don't know why... but it just crossed my mind.
>> My conclusion then was also an arduino based solution like the Ardcore.
>> 
>> Grzt
>> 
>> Ernst
>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 2:56 PM, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>  
>>> That sounds doable - though I'm no programmer. I shall check it out. 
>>> 
>>> Another use would be to pull the stored random quarter tones of the A149-1 to scales that contain quarter tones and semitones - like Arabic music for instance. 
>>> 
>>> Any other ideas?
>>> 
>>> David
>>> 
>>> www.movingisliving.co.uk
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>> 
>>>> On 9 Oct 2014, at 13:19, JS Home jss9h@aol.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> One approach would be an Ardcore module set up as a quantiser (there is a quantiser sketch in the core set) which you could then tune as you wished
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> > On 9 Oct 2014, at 13:06, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>> > 
>>>> > Hi,
>>>> > 
>>>> > I'm wondering if anyone knows of a module or modules that could be set up to take control voltages and quantized them to a non western scale. I'm thinking about making a price of music that is tuned to harmonics and would like to be able to quantize sequencers, other controllers to pitches that I determine beforehand. I hope that makes sense. 
>>>> > 
>>>> > Of course I could laboriously tune sequencers to the correct pitches but I don't know how to do this with say the output of a random or LFO source or ribbon controller etc. 
>>>> > 
>>>> > Any ideas?
>>>> > 
>>>> > David
>>>> > 
>>>> > www.movingisliving.co.uk
>>>> > 
>>>> > Sent from my iPhone 
>>>> > 
>>>> > ------------------------------------
>>>> > Posted by: David Kellett <davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com>
>>>> > ------------------------------------
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> > ------------------------------------
>>>> > 
>>>> > Yahoo Groups Links
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> >
> 
>

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Quantizing to Alternative tuning

2014-10-09 by David Kellett

That link had only two posts in it? 

David

www.movingisliving.co.uk

Sent from my iPhone 
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> On 9 Oct 2014, at 17:12, Tonko Sekulo oknot24@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> ADDAC quantizer has some serious issues and it is being updated with a new firmware. No units are being sold until the bugs are removed, see this topic:
> 
> http://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1689582#1689582
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Nathan Cearley nathancearley@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>  
>> the addac quantizer has microtuning and is super flexible.  
>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Tonko Sekulo oknot24@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>  
>>>  A lot of people are using ES-3 and Silent Way for microtonal scales. Probably you could use ES-3/ES-6 combo as a quantizer for cv sources. 
>>> 
>>> t.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 5:49 PM, achtung_999 heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Interesting thought indeed! 
>>>> I had not spend to much thought on it as you see :D
>>>> 
>>>> I was just thinking about being able to tune beatings of two oscillators with two (more correctly said perhaps) semi-microtonal quantizers..
>>>> It was just a quick thought though...
>>>> 
>>>> Ernst
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Martin Fay martin@martinfay.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>> I thought an Ardcore had 8-bit D/A, that would not be enough precision for microtuning which requires cent-level (bare minimum!) precision?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Martin 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 9 Oct 2014, at 16:28, "achtung_999 heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100]" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> I think the Ardcore is indeed the easiest way to go. I was thinking of a microtonal quantizer myself this week. I don't know why... but it just crossed my mind.
>>>>>> My conclusion then was also an arduino based solution like the Ardcore.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Grzt
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ernst
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 2:56 PM, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> That sounds doable - though I'm no programmer. I shall check it out. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Another use would be to pull the stored random quarter tones of the A149-1 to scales that contain quarter tones and semitones - like Arabic music for instance. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Any other ideas?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> www.movingisliving.co.uk
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 9 Oct 2014, at 13:19, JS Home jss9h@aol.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> One approach would be an Ardcore module set up as a quantiser (there is a quantiser sketch in the core set) which you could then tune as you wished
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> > On 9 Oct 2014, at 13:06, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>> > Hi,
>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>> > I'm wondering if anyone knows of a module or modules that could be set up to take control voltages and quantized them to a non western scale. I'm thinking about making a price of music that is tuned to harmonics and would like to be able to quantize sequencers, other controllers to pitches that I determine beforehand. I hope that makes sense. 
>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>> > Of course I could laboriously tune sequencers to the correct pitches but I don't know how to do this with say the output of a random or LFO source or ribbon controller etc. 
>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>> > Any ideas?
>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>> > David
>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>> > www.movingisliving.co.uk
>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>> > Sent from my iPhone 
>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>> > ------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> > Posted by: David Kellett <davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>> > ------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>> > ------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>> > Yahoo Groups Links
>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>> >
> 
>

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Quantizing to Alternative tuning

2014-10-09 by Nathan Cearley

if i were you i would just write andre at addac directly with your questions.

from my experience and what little i know the previous firmware had the following problems

1) if channel 2, 3 or 4 had separate cv running in, and that cv was ever at 0v, that channel reverted to the cv running into channel 1. this wasn't a "bug" but a consequence of how it was programmed.

2) the external gate in for channels 2, 3 and 4 did not always work.

3) the f#minor scale was wrong and a f # minor jazz descending

there may be other problems with it. some people have a hard time operating it at first because they don't understand that the present's are for interval patterns only and that the tuning you have it set to is a separate value to save and is independent of "presets".

i know the update is out and they are willing to do it for you and that some shops will be doing it. or you can order the stuff to do it yourself.

next to the ardcore it seems like something that offers the flexibility you are looking for. as for outs...it has four channels. they can't have separate scales for each channel but you can run of course separate cv into each and also externally gate them independent of each other and the possibility of creating chords with channel 2, 3 and 4 by changing the intervals for each.

good luck!
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On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 3:37 PM, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

That link had only two posts in it?

David

www.movingisliving.co.uk

Sent from my iPhone

On 9 Oct 2014, at 17:12, Tonko Sekulo oknot24@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

ADDAC quantizer has some serious issues and it is being updated with a new firmware. No units are being sold until the bugs are removed, see this topic:


On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Nathan Cearley nathancearley@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

the addac quantizer has microtuning and is super flexible.

On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Tonko Sekulo oknot24@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

A lot of people are using ES-3 and Silent Way for microtonal scales. Probably you could use ES-3/ES-6 combo as a quantizer for cv sources.

t.

On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 5:49 PM, achtung_999 heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Interesting thought indeed!
I had not spend to much thought on it as you see :D

I was just thinking about being able to tune beatings of two oscillators with two (more correctly said perhaps) semi-microtonal quantizers..
It was just a quick thought though...

Ernst


On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Martin Fay martin@martinfay.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I thought an Ardcore had 8-bit D/A, that would not be enough precision for microtuning which requires cent-level (bare minimum!) precision?

Martin

Sent from my iPhone

On 9 Oct 2014, at 16:28, "achtung_999 heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100]" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I think the Ardcore is indeed the easiest way to go. I was thinking of a microtonal quantizer myself this week. I don9;t know why... but it just crossed my mind.
My conclusion then was also an arduino based solution like the Ardcore.

Grzt

Ernst

On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 2:56 PM, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

That sounds doable - though I'm no programmer. I shall check it out.

Another use would be to pull the stored random quarter tones of the A149-1 to scales that contain quarter tones and semitones - like Arabic music for instance.

Any other ideas?

David

www.movingisliving.co.uk

Sent from my iPhone

On 9 Oct 2014, at 13:19, JS Home jss9h@aol.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

One approach would be an Ardcore module set up as a quantiser (there is a quantiser sketch in the core set) which you could then tune as you wished

Sent from my iPhone

> On 9 Oct 2014, at 13:06, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm wondering if anyone knows of a module or modules that could be set up to take control voltages and quantized them to a non western scale. I'm thinking about making a price of music that is tuned to harmonics and would like to be able to quantize sequencers, other controllers to pitches that I determine beforehand. I hope that makes sense.
>
> Of course I could laboriously tune sequencers to the correct pitches but I don't know how to do this with say the output of a random or LFO source or ribbon controller etc.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> David
>
> www.movingisliving.co.uk
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> ------------------------------------
> Posted by: David Kellett <davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo Groups Links
>
>
>







Re: [Doepfer_a100] Quantizing to Alternative tuning

2014-10-09 by David Kellett

Thanks for the further info. I'm wading through some other MuffWiggler posts about it. It does sound very interesting and would probably do what I want. I have emailed Addac already so hopefully will know more. I have time to do lots of research as that purchase will not be for a bit. I have a Monster Base on the way (delivery was delayed - should have been on Tuesday and now not till next Tuesday - grrrrerrr!) and have a PMS12 on order and then my money will be in short supply for a bit alas :-(

David

www.movingisliving.co.uk

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> On 9 Oct 2014, at 21:56, Nathan Cearley nathancearley@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> if i were you i would just write andre at addac directly with your questions.
> 
> from my experience and what little i know the previous firmware had the following problems
> 
> 1) if channel 2, 3 or 4 had separate cv running in, and that cv was ever at 0v, that channel reverted to the cv running into channel 1.  this wasn't a "bug" but a consequence of how it was programmed.
> 
> 2) the external gate in for channels 2, 3 and 4 did not always work.
> 
> 3) the f#minor scale was wrong and a f # minor jazz descending
> 
> there may be other problems with it.  some people have a hard time operating it at first because they don't understand that the present's are for interval patterns only and that the tuning you have it set to is a separate value to save and is independent of "presets".  
> 
> i know the update is out and they are willing to do it for you and that some shops will be doing it.  or you can order the stuff to do it yourself.
> 
> next to the ardcore it seems like something that offers the flexibility you are looking for.  as for outs...it has four channels.  they can't have separate scales for each channel but you can run of course separate cv into each and also externally gate them independent of each other and the possibility of creating chords with channel 2, 3 and 4 by changing the intervals for each. 
> 
> good luck!
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 3:37 PM, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>  
>> That link had only two posts in it? 
>> 
>> David
>> 
>> www.movingisliving.co.uk
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 
>> 
>>> On 9 Oct 2014, at 17:12, Tonko Sekulo oknot24@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> ADDAC quantizer has some serious issues and it is being updated with a new firmware. No units are being sold until the bugs are removed, see this topic:
>>> 
>>> http://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1689582#1689582
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Nathan Cearley nathancearley@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> the addac quantizer has microtuning and is super flexible.  
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Tonko Sekulo oknot24@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>>  A lot of people are using ES-3 and Silent Way for microtonal scales. Probably you could use ES-3/ES-6 combo as a quantizer for cv sources. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> t.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 5:49 PM, achtung_999 heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Interesting thought indeed! 
>>>>>> I had not spend to much thought on it as you see :D
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I was just thinking about being able to tune beatings of two oscillators with two (more correctly said perhaps) semi-microtonal quantizers..
>>>>>> It was just a quick thought though...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ernst
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Martin Fay martin@martinfay.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> I thought an Ardcore had 8-bit D/A, that would not be enough precision for microtuning which requires cent-level (bare minimum!) precision?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Martin 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 9 Oct 2014, at 16:28, "achtung_999 heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100]" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> I think the Ardcore is indeed the easiest way to go. I was thinking of a microtonal quantizer myself this week. I don't know why... but it just crossed my mind.
>>>>>>>> My conclusion then was also an arduino based solution like the Ardcore.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Grzt
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ernst
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 2:56 PM, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> That sounds doable - though I'm no programmer. I shall check it out. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Another use would be to pull the stored random quarter tones of the A149-1 to scales that contain quarter tones and semitones - like Arabic music for instance. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Any other ideas?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> www.movingisliving.co.uk
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 9 Oct 2014, at 13:19, JS Home jss9h@aol.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> One approach would be an Ardcore module set up as a quantiser (there is a quantiser sketch in the core set) which you could then tune as you wished
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> > On 9 Oct 2014, at 13:06, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>> > Hi,
>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>> > I'm wondering if anyone knows of a module or modules that could be set up to take control voltages and quantized them to a non western scale. I'm thinking about making a price of music that is tuned to harmonics and would like to be able to quantize sequencers, other controllers to pitches that I determine beforehand. I hope that makes sense. 
>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>> > Of course I could laboriously tune sequencers to the correct pitches but I don't know how to do this with say the output of a random or LFO source or ribbon controller etc. 
>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>> > Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>> > David
>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>> > www.movingisliving.co.uk
>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>> > Sent from my iPhone 
>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>> > ------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> > Posted by: David Kellett <davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>>>> > ------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>> > ------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>> > Yahoo Groups Links
>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>> >
> 
>

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Quantizing to Alternative tuning

2014-10-09 by Nicholas Keller

I really like the functions on the Intellijel uScale, but it doesn't really do microtonal.  
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> On Oct 9, 2014, at 5:13 PM, "David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100]" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Thanks for the further info. I'm wading through some other MuffWiggler posts about it. It does sound very interesting and would probably do what I want. I have emailed Addac already so hopefully will know more. I have time to do lots of research as that purchase will not be for a bit. I have a Monster Base on the way (delivery was delayed - should have been on Tuesday and now not till next Tuesday - grrrrerrr!) and have a PMS12 on order and then my money will be in short supply for a bit alas :-(
> 
> David
> 
> www.movingisliving.co.uk
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
>> On 9 Oct 2014, at 21:56, Nathan Cearley nathancearley@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> if i were you i would just write andre at addac directly with your questions.
>> 
>> from my experience and what little i know the previous firmware had the following problems
>> 
>> 1) if channel 2, 3 or 4 had separate cv running in, and that cv was ever at 0v, that channel reverted to the cv running into channel 1.  this wasn't a "bug" but a consequence of how it was programmed.
>> 
>> 2) the external gate in for channels 2, 3 and 4 did not always work.
>> 
>> 3) the f#minor scale was wrong and a f # minor jazz descending
>> 
>> there may be other problems with it.  some people have a hard time operating it at first because they don't understand that the present's are for interval patterns only and that the tuning you have it set to is a separate value to save and is independent of "presets".  
>> 
>> i know the update is out and they are willing to do it for you and that some shops will be doing it.  or you can order the stuff to do it yourself.
>> 
>> next to the ardcore it seems like something that offers the flexibility you are looking for.  as for outs...it has four channels.  they can't have separate scales for each channel but you can run of course separate cv into each and also externally gate them independent of each other and the possibility of creating chords with channel 2, 3 and 4 by changing the intervals for each. 
>> 
>> good luck!
>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 3:37 PM, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>  
>>> That link had only two posts in it? 
>>> 
>>> David
>>> 
>>> www.movingisliving.co.uk
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>> 
>>>> On 9 Oct 2014, at 17:12, Tonko Sekulo oknot24@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> ADDAC quantizer has some serious issues and it is being updated with a new firmware. No units are being sold until the bugs are removed, see this topic:
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1689582#1689582
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Nathan Cearley nathancearley@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>> the addac quantizer has microtuning and is super flexible.  
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Tonko Sekulo oknot24@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  A lot of people are using ES-3 and Silent Way for microtonal scales. Probably you could use ES-3/ES-6 combo as a quantizer for cv sources. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> t.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 5:49 PM, achtung_999 heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Interesting thought indeed! 
>>>>>>> I had not spend to much thought on it as you see :D
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I was just thinking about being able to tune beatings of two oscillators with two (more correctly said perhaps) semi-microtonal quantizers..
>>>>>>> It was just a quick thought though...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ernst
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Martin Fay martin@martinfay.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> I thought an Ardcore had 8-bit D/A, that would not be enough precision for microtuning which requires cent-level (bare minimum!) precision?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Martin 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 9 Oct 2014, at 16:28, "achtung_999 heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100]" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> I think the Ardcore is indeed the easiest way to go. I was thinking of a microtonal quantizer myself this week. I don't know why... but it just crossed my mind.
>>>>>>>>> My conclusion then was also an arduino based solution like the Ardcore.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Grzt
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Ernst
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 2:56 PM, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> That sounds doable - though I'm no programmer. I shall check it out. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Another use would be to pull the stored random quarter tones of the A149-1 to scales that contain quarter tones and semitones - like Arabic music for instance. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Any other ideas?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> www.movingisliving.co.uk
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9 Oct 2014, at 13:19, JS Home jss9h@aol.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>> One approach would be an Ardcore module set up as a quantiser (there is a quantiser sketch in the core set) which you could then tune as you wished
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> > On 9 Oct 2014, at 13:06, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>>> > Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>>> > I'm wondering if anyone knows of a module or modules that could be set up to take control voltages and quantized them to a non western scale. I'm thinking about making a price of music that is tuned to harmonics and would like to be able to quantize sequencers, other controllers to pitches that I determine beforehand. I hope that makes sense. 
>>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>>> > Of course I could laboriously tune sequencers to the correct pitches but I don't know how to do this with say the output of a random or LFO source or ribbon controller etc. 
>>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>>> > Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>>> > David
>>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>>> > www.movingisliving.co.uk
>>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>>> > Sent from my iPhone 
>>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>>> > ------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> > Posted by: David Kellett <davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> > ------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>>> > ------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>>> > Yahoo Groups Links
>>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>>> >
> 
>

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Quantizing to Alternative tuning

2014-10-10 by David Kellett

I'm a fan of the uScale too but, yes, it does not do microtonal. I actually have 3 uScales :-)

David

www.movingisliving.co.uk

Sent from my iPhone 
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> On 9 Oct 2014, at 23:58, Nicholas Keller maq163x2@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> I really like the functions on the Intellijel uScale, but it doesn't really do microtonal.  
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 9, 2014, at 5:13 PM, "David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100]" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> Thanks for the further info. I'm wading through some other MuffWiggler posts about it. It does sound very interesting and would probably do what I want. I have emailed Addac already so hopefully will know more. I have time to do lots of research as that purchase will not be for a bit. I have a Monster Base on the way (delivery was delayed - should have been on Tuesday and now not till next Tuesday - grrrrerrr!) and have a PMS12 on order and then my money will be in short supply for a bit alas :-(
>> 
>> David
>> 
>> www.movingisliving.co.uk
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 
>> 
>>> On 9 Oct 2014, at 21:56, Nathan Cearley nathancearley@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> if i were you i would just write andre at addac directly with your questions.
>>> 
>>> from my experience and what little i know the previous firmware had the following problems
>>> 
>>> 1) if channel 2, 3 or 4 had separate cv running in, and that cv was ever at 0v, that channel reverted to the cv running into channel 1.  this wasn't a "bug" but a consequence of how it was programmed.
>>> 
>>> 2) the external gate in for channels 2, 3 and 4 did not always work.
>>> 
>>> 3) the f#minor scale was wrong and a f # minor jazz descending
>>> 
>>> there may be other problems with it.  some people have a hard time operating it at first because they don't understand that the present's are for interval patterns only and that the tuning you have it set to is a separate value to save and is independent of "presets".  
>>> 
>>> i know the update is out and they are willing to do it for you and that some shops will be doing it.  or you can order the stuff to do it yourself.
>>> 
>>> next to the ardcore it seems like something that offers the flexibility you are looking for.  as for outs...it has four channels.  they can't have separate scales for each channel but you can run of course separate cv into each and also externally gate them independent of each other and the possibility of creating chords with channel 2, 3 and 4 by changing the intervals for each. 
>>> 
>>> good luck!
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 3:37 PM, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> That link had only two posts in it? 
>>>> 
>>>> David
>>>> 
>>>> www.movingisliving.co.uk
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 9 Oct 2014, at 17:12, Tonko Sekulo oknot24@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> ADDAC quantizer has some serious issues and it is being updated with a new firmware. No units are being sold until the bugs are removed, see this topic:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1689582#1689582
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Nathan Cearley nathancearley@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> the addac quantizer has microtuning and is super flexible.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Tonko Sekulo oknot24@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>  A lot of people are using ES-3 and Silent Way for microtonal scales. Probably you could use ES-3/ES-6 combo as a quantizer for cv sources. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> t.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 5:49 PM, achtung_999 heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> Interesting thought indeed! 
>>>>>>>> I had not spend to much thought on it as you see :D
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I was just thinking about being able to tune beatings of two oscillators with two (more correctly said perhaps) semi-microtonal quantizers..
>>>>>>>> It was just a quick thought though...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ernst
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Martin Fay martin@martinfay.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> I thought an Ardcore had 8-bit D/A, that would not be enough precision for microtuning which requires cent-level (bare minimum!) precision?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Martin 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 9 Oct 2014, at 16:28, "achtung_999 heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100]" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> I think the Ardcore is indeed the easiest way to go. I was thinking of a microtonal quantizer myself this week. I don't know why... but it just crossed my mind.
>>>>>>>>>> My conclusion then was also an arduino based solution like the Ardcore.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Grzt
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Ernst
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 2:56 PM, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>> That sounds doable - though I'm no programmer. I shall check it out. 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Another use would be to pull the stored random quarter tones of the A149-1 to scales that contain quarter tones and semitones - like Arabic music for instance. 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Any other ideas?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> www.movingisliving.co.uk
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9 Oct 2014, at 13:19, JS Home jss9h@aol.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>> One approach would be an Ardcore module set up as a quantiser (there is a quantiser sketch in the core set) which you could then tune as you wished
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> > On 9 Oct 2014, at 13:06, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>>>> > I'm wondering if anyone knows of a module or modules that could be set up to take control voltages and quantized them to a non western scale. I'm thinking about making a price of music that is tuned to harmonics and would like to be able to quantize sequencers, other controllers to pitches that I determine beforehand. I hope that makes sense. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Of course I could laboriously tune sequencers to the correct pitches but I don't know how to do this with say the output of a random or LFO source or ribbon controller etc. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>>>> > David
>>>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>>>> > www.movingisliving.co.uk
>>>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Sent from my iPhone 
>>>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>>>> > ------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Posted by: David Kellett <davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> > ------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>>>> > ------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Yahoo Groups Links
>>>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
> 
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