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2013-06-22 by niroke
Hi all, Check out a blog post I just made about using the Row 2 inputs of the A-155 to switch between different audio signals. In each of the two examples, I switch between EIGHT different drum loops randomly. For example videos and further explanation, see the link below. http://niroke.blogspot.com/2013/06/using-doepfer-155-to-re-arrange-audio.html Nick
2013-06-23 by anoop.sahal
Hi Nick, Wild sounding! If I understand the explanation correctly , the sqncr steps through the Ambleton sync'd beat loops but the sqncr does not know when a beat loop starts or stops, it switches into the loop at any point in the loop and effects make this the actual sound more variable? It seems the step time for each advance (whether forward or backward)is not always the same? Regards Anoop --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "niroke" <maq163x2@...> wrote:
> > Hi all, > > Check out a blog post I just made about using the Row 2 inputs of the A-155 to switch between different audio signals. In each of the two examples, I switch between EIGHT different drum loops randomly. > > For example videos and further explanation, see the link below. > > http://niroke.blogspot.com/2013/06/using-doepfer-155-to-re-arrange-audio.html > > > Nick >
2013-06-23 by niroke
Anoop, Correct, the sequencer only decides which audio signal (one of the 8 beatloops) is heard over the course of one particular step. This is done by running the audio signals THROUGH the sequencer. The A-155 is synced to Ableton by way of my Elektron Machinedrum, on which I created a pattern of pulses that was 2 bars long which is routed to a specific output and from there to the A-154 Ext Clock In. This pulse (trigger) pattern started with 1/2 note intervals and increased up to 16th note intervals. The pattern plays looped and starts with the drum loops via Ableton. So, there is some predictability there because you know the trigger pattern goes from slow to fast over two bars (although this can easily be changed at the Machinedrum), but which step is active (which drum loop) is randomly chosen by the A-154 Seq Controller. More predictability can be achieved by setting the direction to Forward. Additional control can be had by using the A-154 First and Last step settings, limiting the range of the sequence (number of steps) and allowing for more deliberate and specific fills/focus. Effects on the audio before sending it to the sequencer can make certain steps/audio slices stand out. But also, the loops I used in the first example were all several bars long, had a variety of sounds throughout, etc, so added extra depth to the possible audio output, for better or worse. Using a group of similar sources, like the second, Jungle example, is slightly less surprising but sounds more user-friendly. nick --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "anoop.sahal" wrote: > > > > > Hi Nick, > > Wild sounding! > > If I understand the explanation correctly , the sqncr steps through the Ambleton sync'd beat loops but the sqncr does not know when a beat loop starts or stops, it switches into the loop at any point in the loop and effects make this the actual sound more variable? > > It seems the step time for each advance (whether forward or backward)is not always the same? > > Regards Anoop > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "niroke" maq163x2@ wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > Check out a blog post I just made about using the Row 2 inputs of the A-155 to switch between different audio signals. In each of the two examples, I switch between EIGHT different drum loops randomly. > > > > For example videos and further explanation, see the link below. > > > > http://niroke.blogspot.com/2013/06/using-doepfer-155-to-re-arrange-audio\ .html > > > > > > Nick > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2013-06-23 by niroke
James, That would be a similar patch, and I too have the 135/144 combo in my system. What I like about the 155 in this patch is the ease at which you can set up different running modes and pattern lengths, and have voltage control over it all. Plus you can use the trigger rows of the A-155 for other things while you're at it. nick --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, James Husted wrote: > > I do this sort of thing all the time but without the A-155. I use the A-135 or a 4ms VCAMatrix and a A-144 as a controller for them. Less inputs (loops) to control of course but you get a clean fade between the different sources. I typically don't use this technique with drum loops, I use it with musical phrases or background ambient sounds so the abrupt switching (and associated switch noises) show much more and the A-155 is less useful. The A-155 works great it seems with drum loops since the percussive nature of the switching actually enhances the sound especially since the switching and the switch noise will always be on beat. > -James > > James Husted > Designer, Synthwerks LLC > www.synthwerks.com > james@... > synthwerks@... > > > On Jun 23, 2013, at 8:04 AM, niroke maq163x2@... wrote: > > > Anoop, > > Correct, the sequencer only decides which audio signal (one of the 8 > > beatloops) is heard over the course of one particular step. This is > > done by running the audio signals THROUGH the sequencer. The A-155 is > > synced to Ableton by way of my Elektron Machinedrum, on which I created > > a pattern of pulses that was 2 bars long which is routed to a specific > > output and from there to the A-154 Ext Clock In. This pulse (trigger) > > pattern started with 1/2 note intervals and increased up to 16th note > > intervals. The pattern plays looped and starts with the drum loops via > > Ableton. So, there is some predictability there because you know the > > trigger pattern goes from slow to fast over two bars (although this can > > easily be changed at the Machinedrum), but which step is active (which > > drum loop) is randomly chosen by the A-154 Seq Controller. More > > predictability can be achieved by setting the direction to Forward. > > Additional control can be had by using the A-154 First and Last step > > settings, limiting the range of the sequence (number of steps) and > > allowing for more deliberate and specific fills/focus. Effects on the > > audio before sending it to the sequencer can make certain steps/audio > > slices stand out. But also, the loops I used in the first example were > > all several bars long, had a variety of sounds throughout, etc, so added > > extra depth to the possible audio output, for better or worse. Using a > > group of similar sources, like the second, Jungle example, is slightly > > less surprising but sounds more user-friendly. > > nick > > > > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "anoop.sahal" wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi Nick, > >> > >> Wild sounding! > >> > >> If I understand the explanation correctly , the sqncr steps through > > the Ambleton sync'd beat loops but the sqncr does not know when a beat > > loop starts or stops, it switches into the loop at any point in the loop > > and effects make this the actual sound more variable? > >> > >> It seems the step time for each advance (whether forward or > > backward)is not always the same? > >> > >> Regards Anoop > >> > >> > >> > >> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "niroke" maq163x2@ wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> Check out a blog post I just made about using the Row 2 inputs of > > the A-155 to switch between different audio signals. In each of the two > > examples, I switch between EIGHT different drum loops randomly. > >>> > >>> For example videos and further explanation, see the link below. > >>> > >>> > > http://niroke.blogspot.com/2013/06/using-doepfer-155-to-re-arrange-audio\ \ > > .html > >>> > >>> > >>> Nick > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2013-06-23 by James Husted
I do this sort of thing all the time but without the A-155. I use the A-135 or a 4ms VCAMatrix and a A-144 as a controller for them. Less inputs (loops) to control of course but you get a clean fade between the different sources. I typically don't use this technique with drum loops, I use it with musical phrases or background ambient sounds so the abrupt switching (and associated switch noises) show much more and the A-155 is less useful. The A-155 works great it seems with drum loops since the percussive nature of the switching actually enhances the sound especially since the switching and the switch noise will always be on beat. -James James Husted Designer, Synthwerks LLC www.synthwerks.com james@synthwerks.com synthwerks@me.com
On Jun 23, 2013, at 8:04 AM, niroke <maq163x2@gmail.com> wrote: > Anoop, > Correct, the sequencer only decides which audio signal (one of the 8 > beatloops) is heard over the course of one particular step. This is > done by running the audio signals THROUGH the sequencer. The A-155 is > synced to Ableton by way of my Elektron Machinedrum, on which I created > a pattern of pulses that was 2 bars long which is routed to a specific > output and from there to the A-154 Ext Clock In. This pulse (trigger) > pattern started with 1/2 note intervals and increased up to 16th note > intervals. The pattern plays looped and starts with the drum loops via > Ableton. So, there is some predictability there because you know the > trigger pattern goes from slow to fast over two bars (although this can > easily be changed at the Machinedrum), but which step is active (which > drum loop) is randomly chosen by the A-154 Seq Controller. More > predictability can be achieved by setting the direction to Forward. > Additional control can be had by using the A-154 First and Last step > settings, limiting the range of the sequence (number of steps) and > allowing for more deliberate and specific fills/focus. Effects on the > audio before sending it to the sequencer can make certain steps/audio > slices stand out. But also, the loops I used in the first example were > all several bars long, had a variety of sounds throughout, etc, so added > extra depth to the possible audio output, for better or worse. Using a > group of similar sources, like the second, Jungle example, is slightly > less surprising but sounds more user-friendly. > nick > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "anoop.sahal" wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Hi Nick, >> >> Wild sounding! >> >> If I understand the explanation correctly , the sqncr steps through > the Ambleton sync'd beat loops but the sqncr does not know when a beat > loop starts or stops, it switches into the loop at any point in the loop > and effects make this the actual sound more variable? >> >> It seems the step time for each advance (whether forward or > backward)is not always the same? >> >> Regards Anoop >> >> >> >> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "niroke" maq163x2@ wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Check out a blog post I just made about using the Row 2 inputs of > the A-155 to switch between different audio signals. In each of the two > examples, I switch between EIGHT different drum loops randomly. >>> >>> For example videos and further explanation, see the link below. >>> >>> > http://niroke.blogspot.com/2013/06/using-doepfer-155-to-re-arrange-audio\ > .html >>> >>> >>> Nick >>> >> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >