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Please can someone tell me what is meant by "resp." which appears over
and over again on the Doepfer website and in the A-100 manual. I can
think of no english word for which "resp." might be an abbreviation
which would make sense in the contexts in which it is used. Matt

Can you give a short example?

 

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Please can someone tell me what is meant by "resp." which appears over
and over again on the Doepfer website and in the A-100 manual. I can
think of no english word for which "resp." might be an abbreviation
which would make sense in the contexts in which it is used. Matt





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Never mind, found an example. It is an abbreviation for ‘respective /
respectively’, although in the example its position in the sentence was
German rather than English. 

 

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Please can someone tell me what is meant by "resp." which appears over
and over again on the Doepfer website and in the A-100 manual. I can
think of no english word for which "resp." might be an abbreviation
which would make sense in the contexts in which it is used. Matt





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http://www.languagehat.com/archives/001173.php should clear up this very
strange usage.


On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 4:10 PM, York Luethje <ybl@yahoo.com> wrote:

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> Auftrag von Matt
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. M�rz 2011 15:28
> An: doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] "resp." ???
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> Please can someone tell me what is meant by "resp." which appears over
> and over again on the Doepfer website and in the A-100 manual. I can
> think of no english word for which "resp." might be an abbreviation
> which would make sense in the contexts in which it is used. Matt
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Thanks for the link. "Resp. and other non-existent English words"

So in the following text (from the A-149-1 description) "Whenever the rising edge of the input clock signal (Clk In) appears a new random voltage is generated at the N+1 resp. 2N output" means 'at the N+1 or 2N output'?

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Nicholas Rejack <nrejack@...> wrote:

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> http://www.languagehat.com/archives/001173.php should clear up this very
> strange usage.
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> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 4:10 PM, York Luethje <ybl@...> wrote:
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> > Can you give a short example?
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> > _____
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> > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] Im
> > Auftrag von Matt
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. März 2011 15:28
> > An: doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] "resp." ???
> >
> > Please can someone tell me what is meant by "resp." which appears over
> > and over again on the Doepfer website and in the A-100 manual. I can
> > think of no english word for which "resp." might be an abbreviation
> > which would make sense in the contexts in which it is used. Matt
> >
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Thanks Dieter, and also Florian for the explanation. I'll have a look again at the A-100 manual, but encountered "resp." very often when I read it, and will let you know where the term occurs.

I'll also read the manual with the understanding that "resp." should be read as 'respectively' but placed in a postition which is gramatically correct for english.

Sorry, I didn't mean to make such a big thing of it, but felt that not knowing what "resp." meant was hampering my understanding of the A-100 manual and, therefore, my ability to use the modules.

Matt

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, <yahoo@...> wrote:

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> > Please can someone tell me what is meant by "resp." which appears over
> > and over again on the Doepfer website and in the A-100 manual. I can
> > think of no english word for which "resp." might be an abbreviation
> > which would make sense in the contexts in which it is used. Matt
> 
> I suppose it's an abbreviation for "respectively". I'd like to know in which
> manual you found this abbreviation because most of the English A-100 user
> manuals have been proofreaded by Peter Forrest (you may know him from famous
> book "A-Z of Analogue Synthesisers"). Only the manuals of newer modules have
> not been checked by Peter.
> 
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
>

mfretton schrieb:
> Thanks for the link. "Resp. and other non-existent English words"
> So in the following text (from the A-149-1 description) "Whenever the rising edge of the input clock signal (Clk In) appears a new random voltage is generated at the N+1 resp. 2N output" means 'at the N+1 or 2N output'?

in fact it means 'at the N+1 or 2N output respectively'. It corresponds 
to the quote from languagehat.com "But respectively has a narrower 
meaning: 'each separately in the order mentioned". This is not an OR 
logic but an EXOR logic ("none of them" is not allowed).
The real germanism is the position. In german the word 'beziehungsweise' 
includes already the 'or'. So we place it to the position where the 
english has the 'or':

German thinking (wrong in English)
"...am N+1 beziehungsweise 2N-Ausgang..."
"...at the N+1 resp. 2N output..."

English thinking (wrong in German)
"...am N+1 oder 2N-Ausgang beziehungsweise ..."
"...at the N+1 or 2N output respectively..."

The german thinking becomes clearer if the phrase contains more than two 
choices. There the or/oder is kept, but placed before the second last 
choice and the 'beziehungsweise' is placed before the last choice:

English
"...A, B, C, D, or E respectively..."
German
"...A, B, C or D beziehungsweise E...")

Florian

> Please can someone tell me what is meant by "resp." which appears over
> and over again on the Doepfer website and in the A-100 manual. I can
> think of no english word for which "resp." might be an abbreviation
> which would make sense in the contexts in which it is used. Matt

I suppose it's an abbreviation for "respectively". I'd like to know in which
manual you found this abbreviation because most of the English A-100 user
manuals have been proofreaded by Peter Forrest (you may know him from famous
book "A-Z of Analogue Synthesisers"). Only the manuals of newer modules have
not been checked by Peter.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

yahoo@doepfer.de schrieb:
> most of the English A-100 user manuals have been proofreaded by Peter Forrest
Maybe this collides with Peters attemps to learn french :-))))

Florian

> So in the following text (from the A-149-1 description) "Whenever
> the rising edge of the input clock signal (Clk In) appears a new
> random voltage is generated at the N+1 resp. 2N output" means 'at
> the N+1 or 2N output'?

The upper Clock Input of the module A-149-1 belongs to both the "n+1" and "2
power n" outputs. I think the correct alternative term is "and" because both
outputs are affected by the clock input, i.e. "a new random voltage is
generated at the N+1 and 2N output".

So far nobody was asking. Otherwise we would have revised this explanation.

And Peter Forrest is rehabilitated ! He did not proofread the A-149-1
manual.

Best wishes
Dieter Doeper