As for punch in ENVs I think it can be called punch. I personally define a punch ENV as a fast one that can make you filter sweep fast enough to make a snap or click. That is punchy for me. Filters that can't go that fast like the VCADSR is what I call sloppy and punchless ;) I think the standard doepfer ADSR qualifies for punchy. The Kurzweil K2000 synths have sloppy envs as an example of the opposite. ----- Original Message ----- From: "jmaddocks1975" <jmaddocks1975@yahoo.co.uk> To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 6:59 PM Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: not other OSC and worst modules > Hi, > I agree! > I think the a100 envelopes are very nice, perhaps Hans hasn't > noticed they have a range switch :-D > Trying to make a 'punchy' sound using the wrong range??..oh well. > The multimode filter is a nice filter, but really depends what sound > you are after, that is why we have so many different filters....they > are DIFFERENT for a reason! > > > John. > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Florian Anwander > <Florian.Anwander@c...> wrote: > > Hi Hans > > > > > What Doepfer should do now is to do a MAC editor for their A-112 > sampler > > > that I have unused and disconnected, > > There is no editor for th A112. There is only a sample dump > loader. You may > > assumingly do the same job with every other sample dump loader or > simply > > any sequencer. The A112 was never offered with an editor[*] and > from the > > beginning it was said that there will be no developement for some > computer > > software. So if you were so stupid (sorry that I am getting that > rigid) to > > buy a module, that was known to you as not being usable, no one > will be > > able to help you. Would you buy wintertyres for a Volvo if you own > a Saab - > > only because both are funny northern european car manufactureres? > > > > > > > > [*] The available software is an testing tool from their hardware > testing > > technician. Try to find any other manufacturer, that gives the > testing > > software to his customers! > > > > > > > Did they know that almost eveybody in > > > the music community uses mac ?( well nowadays that is changing). > > Sorry to say, but according to a person how is involved in > merketing > > research at a well known music software house which was acquired > by Apple > > recently, the Mac is used by around 9 to 12 percent in the MIDI- > orientated > > music community. > > > > > > > > > The envelope is bad as hell ( closer to the Korg ms ones ,to me > the worst > > > enveolpes ever) maybe they cloned from them, and has no body or > punch > > > compared to the AS ones or an SH -101 per example. > > ?????????????????? An envelope cannot have punch or something like > that. It > > all depends on what the envelope is controlling. The same envelope > on a > > A130 will "sound" completely different to the result on a A131. All > > envelopes that are not calculated in a microprocessor are based on > > loading/unloading a capacitor. There is no difference in the curve > an > > capacitor is loading between any manufacturer. > > > > What may be different is the VCA of an Korg or an SH101 or the > kind of > > patch that YOU are wiring on an A100. So talking about the "punch > of an > > envelope", you should complain about yourself, that you do not > understand > > what you are doing, but not about Doepfer or Korg or Roland. > > > > > and the 121 multimode filter is simply the WORST sounding filter > I have ever > > > heard,and can“t be compared to other brand ones. > > Oehm, urps, any around 30 other synths on the world use the same > circuit (I > > don't mean the chip, I mean the schematic), so tell me the > difference. Or > > is it again, that you don't know what you are talking about... ? > > > > > > Florian > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > doepfer_a100-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
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Punchy ADSRs
2003-03-26 by Andreas Lindholm
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