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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Doepfer R2M V2 Midi Ribbon Controller - quantized scales

2017-07-24 by Diego Ragnini

Thanks everybody for participation, I missed to thank Dieter for having cleared about limits and possible further developments of the R2M.

Vibrato fx surely would be a nice feature to keep having in scale mode, though I doubt that pressure would provide the same “feel” of a “vibrating” finger on the ribbon (as it undoubtedly does while in normal mode).

What I meant is just “legato” between each couple of sequential notes involved into the scale. I have to admit that the more I consider the matter, the less it makes sense (:-) I try to explain the meaningless suggestion. English is not my language, so thanks for interpreting…

As far as I know, in normal mode the ribbon and the R2M allow to have continuous pitch, just like when we tweak on a VCO freq pot… (and yes we can have vibrato while vibrating the finger within a small portion of the ribbon). In this mode the R2M does not deliver any tempered scale, it just opens to all the audible frequency range (available at the destination unit we’re controlling through it). 

What I expected to find in “scale mode” is that the R2M keeps on offering the continuous pitch movement (i.e. legato between the notes), simply ignoring, let’s say skipping all those notes which are not into the concerned scale… But this would not actually (nor logically) be possible if legato has to be obtained…! Let’s take the easiest example: a major scale. In order to have legato between the 2nd and 3rd major, the finger necessarily has to pass through the 3rd minor… So no way. I likely have to deepen the Boolean logic!

Sorry for having raised a meaningless question. It also happens that sometimes I feel I want to play guitar as if I were left handed…

By the way, I am going to order the ribbon anyway.

Best wishes,
Diego

> Il giorno 24 lug 2017, alle ore 19:42, christian ienni ienni23@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> ha scritto:
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> possible stopgap solution in the meantime for a similar effect to what Florian describes... have a quantized scale for ribbon position, then assign ribbon pressure to pitch bend or osc freq CV2 in , so you "press-wiggle" for vibrato?
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> From: "Florian Anwander fanwander@mnet-online.de <mailto:fanwander@mnet-online.de> [Doepfer_a100]" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>>
> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> 
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 7:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Doepfer R2M V2 Midi Ribbon Controller - quantized scales
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> Am 24.07.2017 um 15:40 schrieb Diego Ragnini diegora@free.fr <mailto:diegora@free.fr> [Doepfer_a100]:
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> > I go back to my first question, since I am not sure if it would make 
> > sense to keep having a kind of legato/portamento even in scales mode, 
> > or this is the further question of mine put in the wrong way !
> > :-)
> 
> We have to distiguish two things
> Simple portamento: a scale based quantizer is like a keyboard, where you 
> rip away some keys. A portamento like in a Minimoog will still work.
> You do not need to modify the R2M, you simply put a slew rate limiter 
> module in the CV path.
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> But I assume you wanted to describe with "Portamento" something 
> different: You want to wiggle your finger on the ribbon and the result 
> should be a vibrato; but if you move the finger further than the half of 
> the next step in the scale, then the output should slide to this next 
> step. Right?
> 
> If my assumption is right: very nice idea, but assumingly quite 
> difficult to achieve. ;-/
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> http://www.florian-anwander.de <http://www.florian-anwander.de/>
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