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Re: pitch problems using a171 vc slew limiter

2002-10-25 by duffnuff

i think that's what i'll do..snip the 190 from bus and patch to the 
185 instead, makes perfect sense now.  
thanks for your input.. now i'm glad i didn't accidentally put my 
a171 under the back tire. 
-duff


--- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "Joe Buechler" <buechlerjoe@t...> 
wrote:
> okay okay! Its two metal links. Sheesh! :-)
> 
> I tried to cut mine with a wire snip but they pulled right out of the 
> PCB instead.
> 
> I thought it would be a minor hassle having to patch the A190 
to the 
> A185 so often, but this way you have a way to modify the pitch 
CV 
> before it's fed to the bus - for example, by patching it through a 
> slew limiter, or through a mixer so you can add LFO or a pitch 
> envelope. That's very clean and convenient compared to 
MULT'ing those 
> to all the VCOs. I do that sort of stuff often enough that now I 
> prefer the A190 -> A185 setup to the A190 hardwired bus 
connection.
> 
> Joe
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., bakis Sirros 
<synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> > jumper?
> > i remember having to cut two metal links to stop the
> > a190 sending cv and gates to the system bus.
> > bakis.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- Joe Buechler <buechlerjoe@t...> wrote:
> > > I removed the jumper to break the connection from my
> > > A190 to the 
> > > bus, and patch the A190, or the A156, or whatever,
> > > to the A185 
> > > instead.
> > > 
> > > Hope that helps.
> > > 
> > > Joe
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "duffnuff" <duffnuff@h...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > hmm, ok.  thanks for the suggestion but i'm
> > > confused as to how i 
> > > > would patch it in.  does it work just being on the
> > > bus?  so i start 
> > > > drawing cv from the 185 instead of the 190?  
> > > > -duff
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "Joe Buechler"
> > > <buechlerjoe@t...> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > I had the same problem until I added the Bus
> > > Access module 
> > > > to 
> > > > > buffer the pitch CV. Then the problem went away.
> > > Ditto for A156 
> > > > - 
> > > > > produced pitch CV.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Joe
> > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "duffnuff"
> > > <duffnuff@h...> wrote:
> > > > > > i'm having problems performing simple
> > > portamento using 
> > > > the 
> > > > > > a171 vc slew limiter.   when i apply the a171
> > > slew limiter to 
> > > > pitch 
> > > > > > cv it results in serious intonation problems. 
> > > i went back and 
> > > > > > checked the a190's scale adjustment w just the
> > > a190 and an 
> > > > > > oscillator, checking across 4 octaves w a
> > > tuner, it's fine.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > seems my a171 will not pass cv cleanly
> > > regardless of slope.  
> > > > it 
> > > > > > causes portamento, will adjust from slow to
> > > fast, but notes 
> > > > are 
> > > > > > wrong.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > when i patch the a190's cv1 output to the
> > > a171, then to the 
> > > > osc, 
> > > > > > middle C drops 1/4 step, and intonation goes
> > > completely out 
> > > > of 
> > > > > > whack.  this occurs even when using only one
> > > osc.  very 
> > > > > > frustrating.  completely unusable.  that's w
> > > no slew applied.  i 
> > > > > > also taped the middle C key down and left it
> > > for several 
> > > > minutes 
> > > > > > but no change in pitch during that period.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > could this possibly have anything to do w
> > > using non-doepfer 
> > > > > > osc's?  i recall having to alter the scaling
> > > of the a190 when i 
> > > > > > began using it w a pair of ASys rs95's.  once
> > > the scaling was 
> > > > > > adjusted they played perfectly together,
> > > except now when the 
> > > > 171 
> > > > > > intercepts the pitch cv, then the a190's
> > > scaling wants to be 
> > > > > > adjusted back down to doepfer's default
> > > position.  
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > any thoughts?  is there a bias adjustment i
> > > don't know about 
> > > > > > within the 171?  
> > > > > > -duff
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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> > [Doepfer_a100] group owner-moderator
> > 
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