> "Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and > noise if > your not just processing external sounds." > > - For now, I think i will be just doing external sound. My thought is while I understand you have to start somewhere and can only get a big system if you have fairly big money, what makes a modular stand out from say a chain of pedal effects is the ability to create and transform through modulation happening outside each box. That's one of the reasons most (though not all) modules forego the simple LFO most stand alone effects units build in. The thinking is why use up extra room and cost for a really simple modulation source when you can patch a super complex one. It's worth noting (perhaps you know already) that when you modulate something processing sound at a speed that is unmistakable as audio, you know, higher than a typical fast LFO you are creating something that generally sounds like a different effect because that act alone, depending on what's being modulated very fast is an additional layer of AM or FM synthesis altering whatever you are processing. As for a mixer, sometimes you can get away without one or an existing mixer, but since one runs audio within their modular at hot levels it's useful to have something. Also quite useful would be a utility module that boosts an input signal, something few modular builders included until recently but fairly essential. One important consideration with analog sound is many modules sound different with stronger signals with low level ones. In many peoples opinion, interesting qualities come in as you reach the max level and then when something distorts on input that's definitely a change. On the other hand a typical external mixer won't handle control voltage well or at all. Complex modulation can be made by mixing several sources. A polarizing mixer, something surprisingly not on most historic and basic systems is very useful for it's ability to invert signals while mixing them. You can create new sounds by canceling out existing sounds through phase cancelation and mixing gives further control. I agree you would definitely benefit from a ring modulator if your goal is chaos. I'm not sure why it made the "not just processing external sounds" list but I do see it's absent on your own list. I guess for well over 40 years sound creators have frequently added a ring modulator as often their first sound mangling tool, something to be said there. A-116 - this is a useful module at times but not very extreme. I'd think the reviews out there would agree. I'd also look at other Euro format filters. The ones you mention can create gritty sounds but some filters on the market seem to have an intended goal to mangle and distort sounds more, though stepping back a bit from that has advantages too. Also I'm not sure anyone has mentioned Flight of Harmony's modules. Trigger Divider A-160 - that's used to process triggers/pulses and with an A-161 and a mixer can create a basic sequencer. At the moment what you have been mentioning really hasn't gotten into triggers and areas of rhythm and sequencing. logarithmic VCA A-131 - a VCA adjusts the level going out via control voltage coming in. Logarithmic (the module actually says "exp." for Exponential) would be the response relative to the control voltage. Most people think this sort of response is snappier and more tailored to audio than a linear response. A linear response means the percent of voltage going in is reflected directly with the output. When processing control voltage it's useful to have a linear response to get an expected result out. Making the response not linear is considered closer to how our ears perceive volume changes. But the differences are not radically different so it's more a case of getting a better more expected response in a situation than getting a useless result if you use the other kind of VCA in a situation. You can use either though they won't sound identical. nick
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Re:AW: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
2010-06-03 by zaum
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