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B&W Printing resources.

B&W Printing resources.

2007-01-05 by steve_wadlington

Hi all,

I met with Paul Roark this afternoon at the gallery he displays at. A 
gentleman and great resource. It is great to have those who freely 
share their hard earned learnings. I'm still learning the workflo and 
finding my own. We had a great conversation on the progress of image 
making and the current state digital printing. I can assure you his 
images are well worth viewing.

In my own printing so far I have been printing on E. luster because I 
like the dmax (not the differential). As I was driving home, I realized 
his photos I viewed were on matte papers, but had beautiful dmax. I 
never asked what he printed on! I do have alot to learn

Steve

Re: [Digital BW] B&W Printing resources.

2007-01-05 by Mark Savoia

Anyone know if QTR will drive a Epson 10000?
Mark
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On Jan 4, 2007, at 10:26 PM, steve_wadlington wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I met with Paul Roark this afternoon at the gallery he displays at. A
> gentleman and great resource. It is great to have those who freely
> share their hard earned learnings. I'm still learning the workflo and
> finding my own. We had a great conversation on the progress of image
> making and the current state digital printing. I can assure you his
> images are well worth viewing.
>
> In my own printing so far I have been printing on E. luster because I
> like the dmax (not the differential). As I was driving home, I  
> realized
> his photos I viewed were on matte papers, but had beautiful dmax. I
> never asked what he printed on! I do have alot to learn
>
> Steve
>
>
>
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Re: [Digital BW] B&W Printing resources.

2007-01-05 by Mark Savoia

Sorry about last post, forgot to change subject title.
Mark
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On Jan 4, 2007, at 10:26 PM, steve_wadlington wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I met with Paul Roark this afternoon at the gallery he displays at. A
> gentleman and great resource. It is great to have those who freely
> share their hard earned learnings. I'm still learning the workflo and
> finding my own. We had a great conversation on the progress of image
> making and the current state digital printing. I can assure you his
> images are well worth viewing.
>
> In my own printing so far I have been printing on E. luster because I
> like the dmax (not the differential). As I was driving home, I  
> realized
> his photos I viewed were on matte papers, but had beautiful dmax. I
> never asked what he printed on! I do have alot to learn
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other  
> resources as they are often being updated.
>
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Re: [Digital BW] B&W Printing resources.

2007-01-05 by Ernst Dinkla

Mark Savoia wrote:
> Anyone know if QTR will drive a Epson 10000?
> Mark

Not right now I think. Roy thought it might use the 9600 
protocol more or less but I could only drive it with the 9000 
one in QTR and it looks like it doesn't use the droplet size 
variation that way. Yesterday I saw the calibration targets 
again that I printed that way with MIS 7600 color inks. The 
Eboni black hits 1.7 Dmax on the 25-30% patches (HPR), on 40% 
it drops again. The raw Dmax should be at 70-80% like the 9600 
models.


Met vriendelijke groeten, Ernst


|  Dinkla Grafische Techniek  |
|     www.pigment-print.com    |
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Re: [Digital BW] B&W Printing resources.

2007-01-05 by Mark Savoia

Thanks.
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On Jan 5, 2007, at 10:33 AM, Ernst Dinkla wrote:

> Mark Savoia wrote:
>> Anyone know if QTR will drive a Epson 10000?
>> Mark
>
> Not right now I think. Roy thought it might use the 9600
> protocol more or less but I could only drive it with the 9000
> one in QTR and it looks like it doesn't use the droplet size
> variation that way. Yesterday I saw the calibration targets
> again that I printed that way with MIS 7600 color inks. The
> Eboni black hits 1.7 Dmax on the 25-30% patches (HPR), on 40%
> it drops again. The raw Dmax should be at 70-80% like the 9600
> models.
>
>
> Met vriendelijke groeten, Ernst
>
>
> |  Dinkla Grafische Techniek  |
> |     www.pigment-print.com    |
> |             ( unvollendet )            |
>
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Re: [Digital BW] B&W Printing resources.

2007-01-05 by john dean

Mark,

You should email Roy directly. He'll get back to you.

We were/are going to work this out for 10K PiezoK6 but now they've
gone to another supplier for the carts so I'm still waiting to try it.

Roy told me it he sees no reason why we couldn't do it with the OSX
9000 driver and I was under the impression that the newest version had
a 10K selection on it. You'll need to make custom curves I'm sure. I
belive that is what he told me. I haven't looked yet at the latest driver.

I would imagine that to use the 10K for QTR black and white you are
going to want at least one light black in addion to the K though.

John



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Ernst Dinkla
<E.Dinkla@...> wrote:
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>
> Mark Savoia wrote:
> > Anyone know if QTR will drive a Epson 10000?
> > Mark
> 
> Not right now I think. Roy thought it might use the 9600 
> protocol more or less but I could only drive it with the 9000 
> one in QTR and it looks like it doesn't use the droplet size 
> variation that way. Yesterday I saw the calibration targets 
> again that I printed that way with MIS 7600 color inks. The 
> Eboni black hits 1.7 Dmax on the 25-30% patches (HPR), on 40% 
> it drops again. The raw Dmax should be at 70-80% like the 9600 
> models.
> 
> 
> Met vriendelijke groeten, Ernst
> 
> 
> |  Dinkla Grafische Techniek  |
> |     www.pigment-print.com    |
> |             ( unvollendet )            |
>

Re: [Digital BW] B&W Printing resources.

2007-01-05 by Mark Savoia

I have e-mailed him two times, no response. I want it to do b&w using  
UC inks (6 ink setup with photo black). That's it.
Mark
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On Jan 5, 2007, at 1:26 PM, john dean wrote:

> Mark,
>
> You should email Roy directly. He'll get back to you.
>
> We were/are going to work this out for 10K PiezoK6 but now they've
> gone to another supplier for the carts so I'm still waiting to try it.
>
> Roy told me it he sees no reason why we couldn't do it with the OSX
> 9000 driver and I was under the impression that the newest version had
> a 10K selection on it. You'll need to make custom curves I'm sure. I
> belive that is what he told me. I haven't looked yet at the latest  
> driver.
>
> I would imagine that to use the 10K for QTR black and white you are
> going to want at least one light black in addion to the K though.
>
> John
>
>
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Ernst Dinkla
> <E.Dinkla@...> wrote:
>>
>> Mark Savoia wrote:
>>> Anyone know if QTR will drive a Epson 10000?
>>> Mark
>>
>> Not right now I think. Roy thought it might use the 9600
>> protocol more or less but I could only drive it with the 9000
>> one in QTR and it looks like it doesn't use the droplet size
>> variation that way. Yesterday I saw the calibration targets
>> again that I printed that way with MIS 7600 color inks. The
>> Eboni black hits 1.7 Dmax on the 25-30% patches (HPR), on 40%
>> it drops again. The raw Dmax should be at 70-80% like the 9600
>> models.
>>
>>
>> Met vriendelijke groeten, Ernst
>>
>>
>> |  Dinkla Grafische Techniek  |
>> |     www.pigment-print.com    |
>> |             ( unvollendet )            |
>>
>
>
>
>
> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other  
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>
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> DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER  
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> BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF  
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Re: [Digital BW] B&W Printing resources.

2007-01-05 by john dean

Keep posting it on the QTR list. He could be out of town, or he could
be working on it now.





--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia
<mark@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> I have e-mailed him two times, no response. I want it to do b&w using  
> UC inks (6 ink setup with photo black). That's it.
> Mark
> 
> On Jan 5, 2007, at 1:26 PM, john dean wrote:
> 
> > Mark,
> >
> > You should email Roy directly. He'll get back to you.
> >
> > We were/are going to work this out for 10K PiezoK6 but now they've
> > gone to another supplier for the carts so I'm still waiting to try it.
> >
> > Roy told me it he sees no reason why we couldn't do it with the OSX
> > 9000 driver and I was under the impression that the newest version had
> > a 10K selection on it. You'll need to make custom curves I'm sure. I
> > belive that is what he told me. I haven't looked yet at the latest  
> > driver.
> >
> > I would imagine that to use the 10K for QTR black and white you are
> > going to want at least one light black in addion to the K though.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@...m, Ernst Dinkla
> > <E.Dinkla@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Mark Savoia wrote:
> >>> Anyone know if QTR will drive a Epson 10000?
> >>> Mark
> >>
> >> Not right now I think. Roy thought it might use the 9600
> >> protocol more or less but I could only drive it with the 9000
> >> one in QTR and it looks like it doesn't use the droplet size
> >> variation that way. Yesterday I saw the calibration targets
> >> again that I printed that way with MIS 7600 color inks. The
> >> Eboni black hits 1.7 Dmax on the 25-30% patches (HPR), on 40%
> >> it drops again. The raw Dmax should be at 70-80% like the 9600
> >> models.
> >>
> >>
> >> Met vriendelijke groeten, Ernst
> >>
> >>
> >> |  Dinkla Grafische Techniek  |
> >> |     www.pigment-print.com    |
> >> |             ( unvollendet )            |
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER  
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B&W Printing resources. Changed to QTR 10K?

2007-01-05 by Mark Savoia

I looked at the latest version and see no support for the 10000.
Mark
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On Jan 5, 2007, at 1:50 PM, john dean wrote:

> Keep posting it on the QTR list. He could be out of town, or he could
> be working on it now.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia
> <mark@...> wrote:
>>
>> I have e-mailed him two times, no response. I want it to do b&w using
>> UC inks (6 ink setup with photo black). That's it.
>> Mark
>>
>> On Jan 5, 2007, at 1:26 PM, john dean wrote:
>>
>>> Mark,
>>>
>>> You should email Roy directly. He'll get back to you.
>>>
>>> We were/are going to work this out for 10K PiezoK6 but now they've
>>> gone to another supplier for the carts so I'm still waiting to  
>>> try it.
>>>
>>> Roy told me it he sees no reason why we couldn't do it with the OSX
>>> 9000 driver and I was under the impression that the newest  
>>> version had
>>> a 10K selection on it. You'll need to make custom curves I'm sure. I
>>> belive that is what he told me. I haven't looked yet at the latest
>>> driver.
>>>
>>> I would imagine that to use the 10K for QTR black and white you are
>>> going to want at least one light black in addion to the K though.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Ernst Dinkla
>>> <E.Dinkla@> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Mark Savoia wrote:
>>>>> Anyone know if QTR will drive a Epson 10000?
>>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> Not right now I think. Roy thought it might use the 9600
>>>> protocol more or less but I could only drive it with the 9000
>>>> one in QTR and it looks like it doesn't use the droplet size
>>>> variation that way. Yesterday I saw the calibration targets
>>>> again that I printed that way with MIS 7600 color inks. The
>>>> Eboni black hits 1.7 Dmax on the 25-30% patches (HPR), on 40%
>>>> it drops again. The raw Dmax should be at 70-80% like the 9600
>>>> models.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Met vriendelijke groeten, Ernst
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> |  Dinkla Grafische Techniek  |
>>>> |     www.pigment-print.com    |
>>>> |             ( unvollendet )            |
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other
>>> resources as they are often being updated.
>>>
>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
>>>
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>>> from the membership without notice.
>>> - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital
>>> B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be
>>> removed from the membership.
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>>> and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the
>>> group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines"
>>> in the Files section:
>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/
>>>
>>> BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE
>>> PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE
>>> "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL
>>> NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL,
>>> CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO,
>>> DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER
>>> INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE  "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL
>>> BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF
>>> SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE
>>> THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO
>>> OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR
>>> CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO
>>> GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE
>>> PRINT YAHOO GROUP.
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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RE: [Digital BW] B&W Printing resources.

2007-01-05 by Paul Roark

Hi Steve,

>I met with Paul Roark this afternoon at the gallery he displays at ...

>In my own printing so far I have been printing on E. luster
>because I like the dmax ...

>... [Paul's] photos I viewed were on matte papers, 
> but had beautiful dmax...


I like matte paper for display.  Under glass they are easier to deal with,
and what I use is far more affordable than the glossy papers I like the
best.  

In general, what paper has the best apparent dmax depends, in part, on
lighting variables.  Reflections can make a glossy paper have an effective
dmax that is rather poor.  In good spot lighting, where reflections are not
a problem the glossy papers look terrific.

For matte papers, I will not even consider a paper with a dmax of less than
1.6 density.  Now I think 1.65 is becoming the expected base.  1.7+ of Photo
Rag and Premier Art Matte BW look great to me.

With a matte paper that has a good dmax, it's then a question of how the
image is printed.  That involves all the usual B&W printing skills that one
would get either in the darkroom or with Photoshop experience.  The dmax is
just one small technical number that I use to filter out the weak papers
quickly and evaluate new papers' potential -- one of many variables.

Hope this helps.  It was good to share information with you at Gallery Los
Olivos.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

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