Digital BW, The Print

In a message dated 11/12/06 9:13:15 PM, cj@... writes:


> Hello David,
> 
I'm probably not the David in question...
> 
> >There has been some msgs on here about setting up custom ink sets with
> >certain inks replacing others in the printer...I have an Epson 2400,
> >can this be done for the Epson 2400...
> 
> The simplest substitution that doesn't require separate RIP software
> to manage is replacing the Yellow with a pure carbon ink (which is
> naturally warm) of same density.  Paul Roark recommends one of the MIS
> inks because it gives the best results.  This can be used with the
> Epson driver's ABW mode, although the color tone settings will be
> different.
> 
I actually have this "carbon yellow" in a 2400 (along with MIS's two grays, 
instead of Epson's as well, ler Paul's suggesting). I installed it to test how 
it profiles with PrintFIX PRO 2.0, and the answer is that it offers slight 
improvements in B&W printing, and should reduce metamerism a bit in the process, 
since it will remove any yellow thats in the neutral prints, or in nonneutral 
prints for that matter. This combo won't necessarily print tints that lean 
towards yellow, but for the 'cool to neutral to carbon' range its quite lovely. 
And its pleasing to me that it works with PFP2 profiles, since most specialty 
black and white solutions do not (that is, other than being able to use our 
spectro and measuring software for generating linearization or curve data.) 

The other interesting thing about this combination, is that you can swap the 
yellow cart back to Epson Yellow (or MIS K4 Yellow, I assume) and get full 
color printing as well. You just have to profile each of the two "states" of the 
device for each paper you will be using, and swap carts as necessary. This 
would not be as fast in larger cart systems where there are lines to be purged, 
but its slick in the 2400.

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Unit
Datacolor Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com


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CD,

Is PrintFIX PRO 2.0 available yet?  I don't see it on the Colorvision site.

Thanks,

Tom

On 11/13/06, CDTobie@... <CDTobie@...> wrote:
>
>
> I actually have this "carbon yellow" in a 2400 (along with MIS's two
> grays,
> instead of Epson's as well, ler Paul's suggesting). I installed it to test
> how
> it profiles with PrintFIX PRO 2.0, and the answer is that it offers slight
> improvements in B&W printing, and should reduce metamerism a bit in the
> process,
> since it will remove any yellow thats in the neutral prints, or in
> nonneutral
> prints for that matter. This combo won't necessarily print tints that lean
> towards yellow, but for the 'cool to neutral to carbon' range its quite
> lovely.
> And its pleasing to me that it works with PFP2 profiles, since most
> specialty
> black and white solutions do not (that is, other than being able to use
> our
> spectro and measuring software for generating linearization or curve
> data.)
>
> The other interesting thing about this combination, is that you can swap
> the
> yellow cart back to Epson Yellow (or MIS K4 Yellow, I assume) and get full
> color printing as well. You just have to profile each of the two "states"
> of the
> device for each paper you will be using, and swap carts as necessary. This
> would not be as fast in larger cart systems where there are lines to be
> purged,
> but its slick in the 2400.
>
> C. David Tobie
> Product Technology Manager
> ColorVision Business Unit
> Datacolor Inc.
> CDTobie@...
> www.colorvision.com
>


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In a message dated 11/13/06 2:11:44 PM, tom.husband@... writes:


> Is PrintFIX PRO 2.0 available yet?  I don't see it on the Colorvision site.
> 

Not released to the public, but there is a beta available, were you 
interested in beta testing? If so, send me your name, shipping address, phone number, 
and email address, and I'll add you to the list. Assuming you already own 
PrintFIX PRO, that is...

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Unit
Datacolor Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com


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Thanks CD,

No I don't own PrintFIX Pro.  When will 2.0 be released? What will it cost?

Thanks,

Tom

On 11/13/06, CDTobie@... <CDTobie@...> wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 11/13/06 2:11:44 PM, tom.husband@... writes:
>
>
> > Is PrintFIX PRO 2.0 available yet? I don't see it on the Colorvision
> site.
> >
>
> Not released to the public, but there is a beta available, were you
> interested in beta testing? If so, send me your name, shipping address,
> phone number,
> and email address, and I'll add you to the list. Assuming you already own
> PrintFIX PRO, that is...
>
> C. David Tobie
> Product Technology Manager
> ColorVision Business Unit
> Datacolor Inc.
> CDTobie@...
> www.colorvision.com
>


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In a message dated 11/13/06 5:37:37 PM, tom.husband@... writes:


> 
> No I don't own PrintFIX Pro. 
> 
Then beta testing would not be practical for you.

>  When will 2.0 be released?
> 
In a few weeks, it all depends on finalizing things that aren't finalized 
yet, so its tough to tell.

>  What will it cost?
> 
Nothing, to existing PrintFIX PRO owners (its a free software upgrade). Same 
as PrintFIX PRO 1, for anyone else: street price is currently about $499US.

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Unit
Datacolor Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com


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In a message dated 11/13/2006 10:35:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
CDTobie@... writes:

I  actually have this "carbon yellow" in a 2400 (along with MIS's two grays,  
instead of Epson's as well, ler Paul's suggesting). I installed it to test  
how 
it profiles with PrintFIX PRO 2.0, and the answer is that it offers  slight 
improvements in B&W printing, and should reduce metamerism a  bit in the 
process, 
since it will remove any yellow thats in the neutral  prints, or in 
nonneutral 
prints for that matter. This combo won't  necessarily print tints that lean 
towards yellow, but for the 'cool to  neutral to carbon' range its quite 
lovely. 
And its pleasing to me that it  works with PFP2 profiles, since most 
specialty 
black and white solutions  do not (that is, other than being able to use our 
spectro and measuring  software for generating linearization or curve data.)  




I'd like to learn how to use PFP2 and the spectro for linearization and  
curve creation.
Where can I find the tutorial?
 
Richard (Brooklyn)


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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, CorrPro96@... wrote:
>
> I'd like to learn how to use PFP2 and the spectro for linearization and  
> curve creation.
> Where can I find the tutorial?
> Richard (Brooklyn)

Here's a good start for color profiles:

http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/article_pages/printfix_pro.html

In a message dated 11/13/06 9:27:34 PM, CorrPro96@... writes:


> I'd like to learn how to use PFP2 and the spectro for linearization and 
> curve creation.
> Where can I find the tutorial?
> 
For QTR, or for other products? If its for QTR, there are specific QTR lin, 
and CreateICC export formats in PFP2, so you should definately be working with 
that. As for "the tutorial" you have great faith that there is one. From whom? 
Covering what? Certainly not from ColorVision, it would fall to the company 
whose product you are linearizing.

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Unit
Datacolor Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com


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In a message dated 11/13/06 11:37:42 PM, jvlist@... writes:


> > I'd like to learn how to use PFP2 and the spectro for linearization and 
> > curve creation.
> > Where can I find the tutorial?
> > Richard (Brooklyn)
> 
> Here's a good start for color profiles:
> 
> http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/article_pages/printfix_pro.html
> 
> That particular page is NOT about linearization and curves, but NorthLight 
does have some materials about using CreateICC with PrintFIX Pro for 
linearization, and related stuff...

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Unit
Datacolor Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com


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