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2006-04-21 by Steven Daniel
Hi, I just received my first roll of Crane's new Silver Rag paper. After putting it in the machine (Epson 4800), I discovered the Epson driver doesn't allow settings for 3rd party papers. Does anyone know what Epson paper to choose for using Silver Rag? Or is there a better way to do this? Thanks, Steve
2006-04-21 by john dean
Try Premium Semi-gloss that's what I used with really good results for the media setting. You will also want to go to the Crane website and download the color profile if you don't have a custom one made. John --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steven Daniel <stevendaniel@...> wrote:
> > Hi, > > I just received my first roll of Crane's new Silver Rag paper. After > putting it in the machine (Epson 4800), I discovered the Epson driver > doesn't allow settings for 3rd party papers. Does anyone know what > Epson paper to choose for using Silver Rag? Or is there a better way > to do this? > > Thanks, > Steve >
2006-04-21 by Steven Daniel
Thanks John. But I just tried it with the same result; a flat muddy print. I'm using the Advanced B&W mode, is that what I want? By the way, I just notice when I use the Preview, I get the same flat, muddy image. Steve
>Try Premium Semi-gloss that's what I used with really good results for >the media setting. You will also want to go to the Crane website and >download the color profile if you don't have a custom one made. > >John > > >--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steven Daniel ><stevendaniel@...> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I just received my first roll of Crane's new Silver Rag paper. After >> putting it in the machine (Epson 4800), I discovered the Epson driver >> doesn't allow settings for 3rd party papers. Does anyone know what >> Epson paper to choose for using Silver Rag? Or is there a better way >> to do this? >> >> Thanks, >> Steve > >
2006-04-22 by Steven Daniel
Okay, I got it to print right after re-reading the directions and setting the driver to No Color Adjustment. Now if only the cutter would stop grinding like it's cutting through metal.. Steve >Thanks John. But I just tried it with the same result; a flat muddy >print. I'm using the Advanced B&W mode, is that what I want? > >By the way, I just notice when I use the Preview, I get the same >flat, muddy image. > >Steve > > > > > >>Try Premium Semi-gloss that's what I used with really good results for >>the media setting. You will also want to go to the Crane website and >>download the color profile if you don't have a custom one made. >> >>John >> >> >>--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steven Daniel >><stevendaniel@...> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I just received my first roll of Crane's new Silver Rag paper. After >>> putting it in the machine (Epson 4800), I discovered the Epson driver >>> doesn't allow settings for 3rd party papers. Does anyone know what >>> Epson paper to choose for using Silver Rag? Or is there a better way >>> to do this? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Steve >> > > > > > >Please visit the Group Homepage to check the >Files, and other resources as they are often >being updated. > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > >If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily >digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit >your Membership preferences by visiting this >same page. > >Please follow these basic guidelines: >- As threads develop, trim off excess portions >of earlier messages to keep them short. >- Good manners are required at all time. No >personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive >or argumentative users may be removed from the >membership without notice. >- Keep your posts and threads related to the >group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who >persistently make off-topic posts may be removed >from the membership. >- By posting on this forum you agree to abide by >the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by >the actions and decisions of the group Owner and >Moderators. See ìGroup Topic, Rules and >Guidelinesî in the Files section: ><http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > >BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO >THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU >EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE ìOWNERî >AND ìMODERATORSî OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO >GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, >INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR >EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, >DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA >OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE ìOWNERî >AND ìMODERATORSî OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO >GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF >SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR >THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT >YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR >ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) >STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE >DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY >OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE >PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > >YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > Visit your group >"<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint>DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint" >on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > ><mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe>DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the ><http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>Yahoo! Terms >of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-04-22 by john dean
Yea, if you let the printer manage the color outupt you are disregarding the profile. You might want to save that cutter for when you really need it. They wear out quite fast with thick papers. It is a huge drag when dealing with thick roll papers, but, as Tony Soprano would say, what ya gonna do. john --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steven Daniel <stevendaniel@...> wrote: > > Okay, I got it to print right after re-reading > the directions and setting the driver to No Color > Adjustment. Now if only the cutter would stop > grinding like it's cutting through metal.. > > Steve > > > > > >Thanks John. But I just tried it with the same result; a flat muddy > >print. I'm using the Advanced B&W mode, is that what I want? > > > >By the way, I just notice when I use the Preview, I get the same > >flat, muddy image. > > > >Steve > > > > > > > > > > > >>Try Premium Semi-gloss that's what I used with really good results for > >>the media setting. You will also want to go to the Crane website and > >>download the color profile if you don't have a custom one made. > >> > >>John > >> > >> > >>--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steven Daniel > >><stevendaniel@> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I just received my first roll of Crane's new Silver Rag paper. After > >>> putting it in the machine (Epson 4800), I discovered the Epson driver > >>> doesn't allow settings for 3rd party papers. Does anyone know what > >>> Epson paper to choose for using Silver Rag? Or is there a better way
> >>> to do this? > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> Steve > >> > > > > > > > > > > >Please visit the Group Homepage to check the > >Files, and other resources as they are often > >being updated. > > > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > >If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily > >digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit > >your Membership preferences by visiting this > >same page. > > > >Please follow these basic guidelines: > >- As threads develop, trim off excess portions > >of earlier messages to keep them short. > >- Good manners are required at all time. No > >personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive > >or argumentative users may be removed from the > >membership without notice. > >- Keep your posts and threads related to the > >group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who > >persistently make off-topic posts may be removed > >from the membership. > >- By posting on this forum you agree to abide by > >the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by > >the actions and decisions of the group Owner and > >Moderators. See ìGroup Topic, Rules and > >Guidelinesî in the Files section: > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > > >BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO > >THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU > >EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE ìOWNERî > >AND ìMODERATORSî OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO > >GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, > >INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR > >EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > >DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA > >OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE ìOWNERî > >AND ìMODERATORSî OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO > >GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF > >SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR > >THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > >YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR > >ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) > >STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE > >DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY > >OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > >PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > > > > >YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > Visit your group > >"<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint>DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint" > >on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > ><mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe>DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > ><http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>Yahoo! Terms > >of Service. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2006-04-22 by Jim Doyle
Get a Pair of Electric Scissors to cut it with.. Jim Doyle J. Doyle Enterprises LLC 114 Old Orchard Rd Cherry Hill NJ 08003 856-424-8660 HYPERLINK "http://www.shadesofpaper.com"www.shadesofpaper.com _____
From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john dean Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 3:50 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Silver Rag paper setting Yea, if you let the printer manage the color outupt you are disregarding the profile. You might want to save that cutter for when you really need it. They wear out quite fast with thick papers. It is a huge drag when dealing with thick roll papers, but, as Tony Soprano would say, what ya gonna do. john --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steven Daniel <stevendaniel@...> wrote: > > Okay, I got it to print right after re-reading > the directions and setting the driver to No Color > Adjustment. Now if only the cutter would stop > grinding like it's cutting through metal.. > > Steve > > > > > >Thanks John. But I just tried it with the same result; a flat muddy > >print. I'm using the Advanced B&W mode, is that what I want? > > > >By the way, I just notice when I use the Preview, I get the same > >flat, muddy image. > > > >Steve > > > > > > > > > > > >>Try Premium Semi-gloss that's what I used with really good results for > >>the media setting. You will also want to go to the Crane website and > >>download the color profile if you don't have a custom one made. > >> > >>John > >> > >> > >>--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steven Daniel > >><stevendaniel@> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I just received my first roll of Crane's new Silver Rag paper. After > >>> putting it in the machine (Epson 4800), I discovered the Epson driver > >>> doesn't allow settings for 3rd party papers. Does anyone know what > >>> Epson paper to choose for using Silver Rag? Or is there a better way > >>> to do this? > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> Steve > >> > > > > > > > > > > >Please visit the Group Homepage to check the > >Files, and other resources as they are often > >being updated. > > > ><HYPERLINK "http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint"http://groups.ya hoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint>HYPERLINK "http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint"http://groups.ya hoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > >If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily > >digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit > >your Membership preferences by visiting this > >same page. > > > >Please follow these basic guidelines: > >- As threads develop, trim off excess portions > >of earlier messages to keep them short. > >- Good manners are required at all time. No > >personal attacks or flames. 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2006-04-22 by john dean
Now that is one hell of a good idea and it never occured to me. If I could learn to cut it perfectly straight so the roll does't have to be removed from the machine each time a print is completed it would work. If I stroke a straight line in PShop I should be able to follow it. john --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Doyle" <jdoyle1713@...> wrote: > > Get a Pair of Electric Scissors to cut it with.. > > > > Jim Doyle > > > > J. Doyle Enterprises LLC > > 114 Old Orchard Rd > > Cherry Hill NJ 08003 > > 856-424-8660 > > HYPERLINK "http://www.shadesofpaper.com"www.shadesofpaper.com > > > > _____ > > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john dean > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 3:50 PM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Silver Rag paper setting > > > > Yea, if you let the printer manage the color outupt you are > disregarding the profile. You might want to save that cutter for when > you really need it. They wear out quite fast with thick papers. It is > a huge drag when dealing with thick roll papers, but, as Tony Soprano > would say, what ya gonna do. > > john > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steven Daniel > <stevendaniel@> wrote: > > > > Okay, I got it to print right after re-reading > > the directions and setting the driver to No Color > > Adjustment. Now if only the cutter would stop > > grinding like it's cutting through metal.. > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > >Thanks John. But I just tried it with the same result; a flat muddy > > >print. I'm using the Advanced B&W mode, is that what I want? > > > > > >By the way, I just notice when I use the Preview, I get the same > > >flat, muddy image. > > > > > >Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Try Premium Semi-gloss that's what I used with really good results for > > >>the media setting. You will also want to go to the Crane website and > > >>download the color profile if you don't have a custom one made. > > >> > > >>John > > >> > > >> > > >>--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steven Daniel > > >><stevendaniel@> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Hi, > > >>> > > >>> I just received my first roll of Crane's new Silver Rag paper. > After > > >>> putting it in the machine (Epson 4800), I discovered the Epson > driver > > >>> doesn't allow settings for 3rd party papers. Does anyone know what > > >>> Epson paper to choose for using Silver Rag? Or is there a > better way > > >>> to do this? > > >>> > > >>> Thanks, > > >>> Steve > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Please visit the Group Homepage to check the > > >Files, and other resources as they are often > > >being updated. > > > > > > ><HYPERLINK > "http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint"http://groups.ya > hoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint>HYPERLINK > "http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint"http://groups.ya > hoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > > >If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily > > >digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit > > >your Membership preferences by visiting this > > >same page. > > > > > >Please follow these basic guidelines: > > >- As threads develop, trim off excess portions > > >of earlier messages to keep them short. > > >- Good manners are required at all time. No > > >personal attacks or flames. 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2006-04-22 by Jim Doyle
John My idea is that if Im close I can clean it up after on a table.. Jim Doyle J. Doyle Enterprises LLC 114 Old Orchard Rd Cherry Hill NJ 08003 856-424-8660 HYPERLINK "http://www.shadesofpaper.com"www.shadesofpaper.com _____
From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john dean Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 4:49 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Silver Rag paper setting Now that is one hell of a good idea and it never occured to me. If I could learn to cut it perfectly straight so the roll does't have to be removed from the machine each time a print is completed it would work. If I stroke a straight line in PShop I should be able to follow it. john --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Doyle" <jdoyle1713@...> wrote: > > Get a Pair of Electric Scissors to cut it with.. > > > > Jim Doyle > > > > J. Doyle Enterprises LLC > > 114 Old Orchard Rd > > Cherry Hill NJ 08003 > > 856-424-8660 > > HYPERLINK "HYPERLINK "http://www.shadesofpaper.com"http://www.shadesofpaper.com"www.shadesofpaper .com > > > > _____ > > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john dean > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 3:50 PM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Silver Rag paper setting > > > > Yea, if you let the printer manage the color outupt you are > disregarding the profile. You might want to save that cutter for when > you really need it. They wear out quite fast with thick papers. It is > a huge drag when dealing with thick roll papers, but, as Tony Soprano > would say, what ya gonna do. > > john > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steven Daniel > <stevendaniel@> wrote: > > > > Okay, I got it to print right after re-reading > > the directions and setting the driver to No Color > > Adjustment. Now if only the cutter would stop > > grinding like it's cutting through metal.. > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > >Thanks John. But I just tried it with the same result; a flat muddy > > >print. I'm using the Advanced B&W mode, is that what I want? > > > > > >By the way, I just notice when I use the Preview, I get the same > > >flat, muddy image. > > > > > >Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Try Premium Semi-gloss that's what I used with really good results for > > >>the media setting. You will also want to go to the Crane website and > > >>download the color profile if you don't have a custom one made. > > >> > > >>John > > >> > > >> > > >>--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steven Daniel > > >><stevendaniel@> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Hi, > > >>> > > >>> I just received my first roll of Crane's new Silver Rag paper. > After > > >>> putting it in the machine (Epson 4800), I discovered the Epson > driver > > >>> doesn't allow settings for 3rd party papers. Does anyone know what > > >>> Epson paper to choose for using Silver Rag? 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2006-04-22 by Greg
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Doyle" <jdoyle1713@...> wrote: > > John > > > > My idea is that if Im close I can clean it up after on a table.. > > > > Jim Doyle > I have one of these: http://allbrands.com/products/abp07520-0128.html which works OK with the shoe blades installed (actually mine is a yellow and black Dritz model). I'm wondering if one of the rotary versions here: http://allbrands.com/products/abc0128.html that look like they could take your finger off would work better. The Eastman looks nice, but I would probably cheap out and get the Gemsey RXM1-1. The angle on the one I have makes it more difficult to use, which is why I think the Eastman rotary finger remover might be a better choice. Not sure if the octagonal or circular blade would be better for heavy art paper, you might need to buy both to find out.
2006-04-22 by john dean
Jim, Yes, that isn't a problem. I have a good Rototrim cutter. What I was refering to is the printer needs to have the roll cut straight or it won't cue up for the next print which would require removing the roll each time. Just doing one is no problem but I'm about to embark on two jobs that will keep them coming one after another and I would rather cut each print as it comes out than end up a long roll to cut apart later. And even that wouldn't be a problem with Cone's inks but with Ultrachrome and rag, you'd better check for clogged nozzles every now and then or your in trouble. But, I think this idea of the electric scissors could work once I gain practice with cutting the straight line. It is a very good idea. It would be nice if the paper cutters on the new machines were as good as the 10K. That one took me 4 years to dull it and I cut everything with it - canvas, etching board, linen, you name it. Epson wants us to buy their flimsy over priced media. John --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Doyle" <jdoyle1713@...> wrote: > > John > > > > My idea is that if Im close I can clean it up after on a table.. > > > > Jim Doyle > > > > J. Doyle Enterprises LLC > > 114 Old Orchard Rd > > Cherry Hill NJ 08003 > > 856-424-8660 > > HYPERLINK "http://www.shadesofpaper.com"www.shadesofpaper.com > > > > _____ > > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john dean > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 4:49 PM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Silver Rag paper setting > > > > Now that is one hell of a good idea and it never occured to me. If I > could learn to cut it perfectly straight so the roll does't have to be > removed from the machine each time a print is completed it would work. > If I stroke a straight line in PShop I should be able to follow it. > > john > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Doyle" > <jdoyle1713@> wrote: > > > > Get a Pair of Electric Scissors to cut it with.. > > > > > > > > Jim Doyle > > > > > > > > J. Doyle Enterprises LLC > > > > 114 Old Orchard Rd > > > > Cherry Hill NJ 08003 > > > > 856-424-8660 > > > > HYPERLINK "HYPERLINK > "http://www.shadesofpaper.com"http://www.shadesofpaper.com"www.shadesofpaper > .com > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of > john dean > > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 3:50 PM > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Silver Rag paper setting > > > > > > > > Yea, if you let the printer manage the color outupt you are > > disregarding the profile. You might want to save that cutter for when > > you really need it. They wear out quite fast with thick papers. It is > > a huge drag when dealing with thick roll papers, but, as Tony Soprano > > would say, what ya gonna do. > > > > john > > > > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steven Daniel > > <stevendaniel@> wrote: > > > > > > Okay, I got it to print right after re-reading > > > the directions and setting the driver to No Color > > > Adjustment. Now if only the cutter would stop > > > grinding like it's cutting through metal.. > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Thanks John. But I just tried it with the same result; a flat muddy > > > >print. I'm using the Advanced B&W mode, is that what I want? > > > > > > > >By the way, I just notice when I use the Preview, I get the same > > > >flat, muddy image. > > > > > > > >Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Try Premium Semi-gloss that's what I used with really good > results for > > > >>the media setting. You will also want to go to the Crane website and > > > >>download the color profile if you don't have a custom one made. > > > >> > > > >>John > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steven Daniel > > > >><stevendaniel@> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> Hi, > > > >>> > > > >>> I just received my first roll of Crane's new Silver Rag paper. > > After > > > >>> putting it in the machine (Epson 4800), I discovered the Epson > > driver > > > >>> doesn't allow settings for 3rd party papers. Does anyone > know what > > > >>> Epson paper to choose for using Silver Rag? 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2006-04-22 by Tyler Boley
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Greg" <dfaprinting@...> wrote: ... > I have one of these: > http://allbrands.com/products/abp07520-0128.html which works OK with > the shoe blades installed (actually mine is a yellow and black Dritz > model). I'm wondering if one of the rotary versions here: > http://allbrands.com/products/abc0128.html... Also, Singer makes some that were recommended on the large format list some time ago, I think they're one of those "seen on tv" shop things... Tyler
2006-04-22 by john dean
Interesting, Thanks Tyler. Here is the Singer. http://www.dutchguard.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=ss&c1=singer&source=overture&kw=electric_scissors_singer&ovchn=OVR&ovcpn=singer&ovcrn=electric+scissors+singer&ovtac=PPC For $17.00 you can get two of them. I think I'll go for that. At that price you could toss em after 6 months if you had to. The Eastman is really nice and some of the others Greg listed looked very smooth but probably way sharper than I'd need for Museum Etching or canvas. I belive they are designed for really tough fabrics. I'm afraid I'd end up with blood all over the place. John
> Also, Singer makes some that were recommended on the large format list > some time ago, I think they're one of those "seen on tv" shop things... > Tyler >
2006-04-23 by Tyler Boley
Yes that's them. I sent someone out to pick some up for me when I heard about them, they came back and said they can't be right, they're too ugly! Still need them though... Tyler --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" <deanwork2003@...> wrote: > > Interesting, Thanks Tyler. > > Here is the Singer. > http://www.dutchguard.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=ss&c1=singer&source=overture&kw=electric_scissors_singer&ovchn=OVR&ovcpn=singer&ovcrn=electric+scissors+singer&ovtac=PPC > > For $17.00 you can get two of them. I think I'll go for that. At that > price you could toss em after 6 months if you had to. > > The Eastman is really nice and some of the others Greg listed looked > very smooth but probably way sharper than I'd need for Museum Etching > or canvas. I belive they are designed for really tough fabrics. I'm > afraid I'd end up with blood all over the place. > > John > > > > Also, Singer makes some that were recommended on the large format list > > some time ago, I think they're one of those "seen on tv" shop things...
> > Tyler > > >
2006-04-23 by Greg
My Dritz gets tired after cutting several times on German Etching, so the rotary finger remover might still be the best choice. The big problem with the style like my dritz is that you really need to oil the blades to keep them sharp and cutting smoothly. You will of course immediately see the problem with this. It does do a great job on canvas though, so maybe it's just the wood fiber in the GE that stresses it. And if you take a look at the Eastman cordless rotary finger remover, they show the different blades. The four "sided" would probably be perfect, the eight sided looks down right deadly! If you really wanted to, you could probably fabricate a cutting guide to attach to the printer, then you would just slide the cutter along the guide to get a nearly perfect cut. Might require making a new foot for the cutter, but that shouldn't be all that difficult.
2006-04-23 by john dean
The perfect solution is a rotary paper cutter on a table in front of the machine I did that in my old place. Now I've got three large format machines, a drum scanner,3 computes, and a scitek all in one room! I've got to get another place.(and...I need my fingers to play the guitar). john --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Greg" <dfaprinting@...> wrote:
> > My Dritz gets tired after cutting several times on German Etching, so > the rotary finger remover might still be the best choice. The big > problem with the style like my dritz is that you really need to oil > the blades to keep them sharp and cutting smoothly. You will of course > immediately see the problem with this. It does do a great job on > canvas though, so maybe it's just the wood fiber in the GE that > stresses it. And if you take a look at the Eastman cordless rotary > finger remover, they show the different blades. The four "sided" would > probably be perfect, the eight sided looks down right deadly! > > If you really wanted to, you could probably fabricate a cutting guide > to attach to the printer, then you would just slide the cutter along > the guide to get a nearly perfect cut. Might require making a new foot > for the cutter, but that shouldn't be all that difficult. >
2006-04-23 by Tyler Boley
you know, Epson does make an attachment... Tyler --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" <deanwork2003@...> wrote:
> > The perfect solution is a rotary paper cutter on a table in front of > the machine I did that in my old place. Now I've got three large > format machines, a drum scanner,3 computes, and a scitek all in one > room! I've got to get another place.(and...I need my fingers to play > the guitar). > > john > > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Greg" > <dfaprinting@> wrote: > > > > My Dritz gets tired after cutting several times on German Etching, so > > the rotary finger remover might still be the best choice. The big > > problem with the style like my dritz is that you really need to oil > > the blades to keep them sharp and cutting smoothly. You will of course > > immediately see the problem with this. It does do a great job on > > canvas though, so maybe it's just the wood fiber in the GE that > > stresses it. And if you take a look at the Eastman cordless rotary > > finger remover, they show the different blades. The four "sided" would > > probably be perfect, the eight sided looks down right deadly! > > > > If you really wanted to, you could probably fabricate a cutting guide > > to attach to the printer, then you would just slide the cutter along > > the guide to get a nearly perfect cut. Might require making a new foot > > for the cutter, but that shouldn't be all that difficult. > > >
2006-04-23 by Tyler Boley
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" <deanwork2003@...> wrote: > >...(and...I need my fingers to play > the guitar). abd we have yet another guitar player amongst us? So there is Martin, James, myself, John, Steve, Dan, I've forgotten a few... Tyler
2006-04-23 by Tom Baker
In my guitar playing comes in real handy for the printing. I've got a couple of printers and a paper cutter sitting atop some amps.
Tom Baker
Tyler Boley <tyler@...> wrote:
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" <deanwork2003@...>
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>
>...(and...I need my fingers to play
> the guitar).
abd we have yet another guitar player amongst us?
So there is Martin, James, myself, John, Steve, Dan, I've forgotten a few...
Tyler
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2006-04-23 by Tom Baker
In my guitar playing comes in real handy for the printing. I've got a couple of printers and a paper cutter sitting atop some amps.
Tom Baker
Tyler Boley <tyler@...> wrote:
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>...(and...I need my fingers to play
> the guitar).
abd we have yet another guitar player amongst us?
So there is Martin, James, myself, John, Steve, Dan, I've forgotten a few...
Tyler
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2006-04-23 by James Irelan
> > > abd we have yet another guitar player amongst us? > So there is Martin, James, myself, John, Steve, Dan, I've forgotten > a few... > Tyler > was playing just tonight... James
2006-04-23 by john dean
Guitar playing comes in real handy when your stressed out and waiting for that long print to come out or that big scan to complete. I've even joined the yahoo jazz guitar group which is excellent. I'm working on several books they recommended. I have a 1953 Gibson ES175 archtop for when I am in a thoughtful mood, and a Japanese Strat when I'm all keyed up and want to crank it. Lately I've been in such a mood as I might plug in my distortion petal and let it all out. john --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley" <tyler@...> wrote: > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" <deanwork2003@> > wrote: > > > >...(and...I need my fingers to play > > the guitar). > > abd we have yet another guitar player amongst us? > So there is Martin, James, myself, John, Steve, Dan, I've forgotten a few... > Tyler >
2006-04-23 by Mark Savoia
Are we drifting a bit from things guys? :) Back to the scissors, Black and Decker rechargeable $39 @Home Depot. I have been cutting hundreds of prints so far and still sharp. Best part is they make it with a quick change head to be replaced at some time with new blades, if it ever gets dull. 3 months so far. Mark On Apr 23, 2006, at 10:55 AM, john dean wrote: > Guitar playing comes in real handy when your stressed out and waiting > for that long print to come out or that big scan to complete. I've > even joined the yahoo jazz guitar group which is excellent. I'm > working on several books they recommended. I have a 1953 Gibson ES175 > archtop for when I am in a thoughtful mood, and a Japanese Strat when > I'm all keyed up and want to crank it. Lately I've been in such a mood > as I might plug in my distortion petal and let it all out. > > john [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-04-23 by john dean
Well that's more in my price range Mark. Are you able to cut a straight line on the roll without removing it. That is my goal. john --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia <mark@...> wrote:
> > Are we drifting a bit from things guys? > :) > > Back to the scissors, Black and Decker rechargeable $39 @Home Depot. > I have been cutting hundreds of prints so far and still sharp. Best > part is they make it with a quick change head to be replaced at some > time with new blades, if it ever gets dull. 3 months so far. > > Mark > > On Apr 23, 2006, at 10:55 AM, john dean wrote: > > > Guitar playing comes in real handy when your stressed out and waiting > > for that long print to come out or that big scan to complete. I've > > even joined the yahoo jazz guitar group which is excellent. I'm > > working on several books they recommended. I have a 1953 Gibson ES175 > > archtop for when I am in a thoughtful mood, and a Japanese Strat when > > I'm all keyed up and want to crank it. Lately I've been in such a mood > > as I might plug in my distortion petal and let it all out. > > > > john > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2006-04-23 by Tyler Boley
Looks like we've got a regular league of crafty gentlemen (I know, an obscure reference). I think as soon as possible, we should organize getting all of us (no doubt extraordinarily attractive) photographers in a line all geared out, gaffer's taped, and dressed up, and pound out Smoke On the Water. I mean heck, John's got a stomp box. Too bad my Electroplex head is on ebay right now and will be gone by then. OK, that was my Sunday morning off topic hallucination. Now about that yellow ink... Tyler
2006-04-23 by Mark Savoia
No problem, as long as you have a steady hand. It did come with two types of heads, one with no guide plate and one with. I like the one with. Mark On Apr 23, 2006, at 11:34 AM, john dean wrote: > Well that's more in my price range Mark. Are you able to cut a > straight line on the roll without removing it. That is my goal. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-04-23 by john dean
Oh, yes, a guide, great, I may be able to save my paper cutter for those really thin Epson papers. john --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia <mark@...> wrote:
> > No problem, as long as you have a steady hand. It did come with two > types of heads, one with no guide plate and one with. I like the one > with. > Mark > > On Apr 23, 2006, at 11:34 AM, john dean wrote: > > > Well that's more in my price range Mark. Are you able to cut a > > straight line on the roll without removing it. That is my goal. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2006-04-23 by Greg
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia <mark@...> wrote: > > Are we drifting a bit from things guys? > :) > > Back to the scissors, Black and Decker rechargeable $39 @Home Depot. > I have been cutting hundreds of prints so far and still sharp. Best > part is they make it with a quick change head to be replaced at some > time with new blades, if it ever gets dull. 3 months so far. > > Mark > Amazon lists them for $29.99 but not in stock, also the B&D site suggests Target. I just wish they had made the handle straight. I think this would have worked better for cutting paper still hanging from a large format Epson. Variable speed might have been nice too. Since my Dritz needs new batteries, maybe I'll get one of these B&D instead. I wonder how well one of these would work for a cheap roll paper slitter for those that want to cut large rolls down to desktop size?
2006-04-23 by john dean
Target huh, well you guys are just full of scissor information today. I'll check em out let you know how it works out Greg. john
> Amazon lists them for $29.99 but not in stock, also the B&D site > suggests Target. I just wish they had made the handle straight. I > think this would have worked better for cutting paper still hanging > from a large format Epson. Variable speed might have been nice too. > Since my Dritz needs new batteries, maybe I'll get one of these B&D > instead. > > I wonder how well one of these would work for a cheap roll paper > slitter for those that want to cut large rolls down to desktop size? >
2006-04-23 by Mark Savoia
A friend of mine users hers for cutting wrapping paper, which is very thin. She got a pair before the holidays and said she buzzed (sorry - no pun intended) through all her gift wrapping faster then ever. The guide on it could be positioned against a rule I think. Here is the link to the web site with photos but it does not show the head with the guide in any. http://www.blackanddecker.com/ProductGuide/Product-Details.aspx? ProductID=10973 Mark On Apr 23, 2006, at 2:07 PM, Greg wrote: > I wonder how well one of these would work for a cheap roll paper > slitter for those that want to cut large rolls down to desktop size? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-04-23 by Greg
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia <mark@...> wrote: > > A friend of mine users hers for cutting wrapping paper, which is very > thin. She got a pair before the holidays and said she buzzed (sorry - > no pun intended) through all her gift wrapping faster then ever. > > The guide on it could be positioned against a rule I think. Here is > the link to the web site with photos but it does not show the head > with the guide in any. > > http://www.blackanddecker.com/ProductGuide/Product-Details.aspx? > ProductID=10973 > The table mounted photo shows the foot.
2006-04-23 by Mark Savoia
You are correct. Mark On Apr 23, 2006, at 5:36 PM, Greg wrote: > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia > <mark@...> wrote: > > > > A friend of mine users hers for cutting wrapping paper, which is > very > > thin. She got a pair before the holidays and said she buzzed > (sorry - > > no pun intended) through all her gift wrapping faster then ever. > > > > The guide on it could be positioned against a rule I think. Here is > > the link to the web site with photos but it does not show the head > > with the guide in any. > > > > http://www.blackanddecker.com/ProductGuide/Product-Details.aspx? > > ProductID=10973 > > > > > The table mounted photo shows the foot. > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you > wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by > visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages > to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed > from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules > and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the > group Owner and Moderators. See �Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines� > in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE > �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL > NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER > INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL > BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF > SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE > THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO > OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR > CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO > GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Digital wedding photography Learn digital photography Digital > photography college > Digital photography Digital photography web site Digital > photography course > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > Visit your group "DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-04-23 by John Vitollo
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia <mark@...> wrote: > The guide on it could be positioned against a rule I think. Here is > the link to the web site with photos but it does not show the head > with the guide in any. > > http://www.blackanddecker.com/ProductGuide/Product-Details.aspx? > ProductID=10973 I've been reading all the posts about cutting roll paper with an electric scissors and thought I guide would help for sure. I'd recommend something like an Aluminum U-Channel from McMaster-Carr: http://www.mcmaster.com/param/asp/PSearch2.asp? reqTyp=parametric&act=psearch&FAM=aluminum&FT_138=94094&session=aluminum; 138=94094&sesnextrep=531243577308951&ScreenWidth=1280&McMMainWidth=879 If that link doesn't work try: http://tinyurl.com/qzj8r If the link doesn't work do a search for "Metal Rod" and find Aluminum Rods in the list. The McMaster-Carr website is frames based and is funky. Once you have scissors in hand take some measurements of the business end and order the appropriate size. I know how much John Dean likes McMaster-Carr! I'm a former guitar player...if that means anything?
2006-04-24 by Ken Carney
I think Electric Scissors would be a pretty nifty band name...well, maybe 40 years too late. But, it could be a retro, real retro, thing - a big screen in the background flashing inkjet images. Today only an idea, tomorrow the Crossroads festival. Anyone need an acoustic/slide blues player? The question: I've been thinking about a 4800, but: I don't do production printing. 2-3 prints a week on the average would be a big run, sometimes though more. Right now I use a 2200 with IP6, no clogging problems with UC inks even when it sits idle for a month as it sometimes does. Does anyone have any thoughts as to whether the 4800, with what must be more plumbing, would lead to clogging problems under those circumstances? I'm pretty pumped about the 4800, with the introduction of these "FB" papers, and the ability to make a larger print. Any info appreciated! Ken
> -----Original Message----- > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of Tyler Boley > Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 10:47 AM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Electric scissors or electric guitar? > > Looks like we've got a regular league of crafty gentlemen (I > know, an obscure reference). > I think as soon as possible, we should organize getting all > of us (no doubt extraordinarily > attractive) photographers in a line all geared out, gaffer's > taped, and dressed up, and pound out Smoke On the Water. I > mean heck, John's got a stomp box. Too bad my Electroplex > head is on ebay right now and will be gone by then. > > OK, that was my Sunday morning off topic hallucination. Now > about that yellow ink... > Tyler
2006-04-24 by James Irelan
On Apr 23, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Tyler Boley wrote: > Looks like we've got a regular league of crafty gentlemen (I know, > an obscure reference). > I think as soon as possible, we should organize getting all of us > (no doubt extraordinarily > attractive) photographers in a line all geared out, gaffer's taped, > and dressed up, and pound > out Smoke On the Water. client: "You're too loud!!" me: "Thank you!" James
2006-04-24 by Arthur Fink
Went to order some of these for my Epson 3000 printer, and found that they are no longer on the MIS web site. Are they available elsewhere? Is there a substitute product to use? Or ... how hard is it to load these cartridges? A r t h u r F i n k P h o t o g r a p h y ----------------------------------------------- Ten New Island Avenue land 207.766.5722 Peaks Island, Maine 04108 cell 207.615.5722 www.arthurfinkphoto.com af@... Photographing people, places, objects, events
2006-04-24 by Paul Roark
> > Went to order some of these for my Epson 3000 printer, and found that > they are no longer on the MIS web site... > how hard is it to load these cartridges? The large format carts are easy to re-load. The bulk UT-FS inks must still be available. Paul www.PaulRoark.com
2006-04-24 by Tyler Boley
it was always the drummer that was too loud in my case. But really we all were. my hearing now sucks bigtime... for a while years and brain cells ago, I stood in front of two 100 watt stacks. How dumb is that? --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, James Irelan <james@...> wrote:
> > > On Apr 23, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Tyler Boley wrote: > > > Looks like we've got a regular league of crafty gentlemen (I know, > > an obscure reference). > > I think as soon as possible, we should organize getting all of us > > (no doubt extraordinarily > > attractive) photographers in a line all geared out, gaffer's taped, > > and dressed up, and pound > > out Smoke On the Water. > > client: "You're too loud!!" > > me: "Thank you!" > > James >
2006-04-24 by James Irelan
On Apr 24, 2006, at 12:31 PM, Tyler Boley wrote: > it was always the drummer that was too loud in my case. > But really we all were. > my hearing now sucks bigtime... > > for a while years and brain cells ago, I stood in front of two 100 > watt stacks. How dumb is that? believe it or not, better than standing in front of five trumpets : ) James
2006-04-24 by Tyler Boley
sorry folks, that was intended to be off list... Tyler --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley" <tyler@...> wrote: > > it was always the drummer that was too loud in my case. > But really we all were. > my hearing now sucks bigtime... > > for a while years and brain cells ago, I stood in front of two 100 > watt stacks. How dumb is that? > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, James Irelan > <james@> wrote: > > > > > > On Apr 23, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Tyler Boley wrote: > > > > > Looks like we've got a regular league of crafty gentlemen (I know, > > > an obscure reference). > > > I think as soon as possible, we should organize getting all of us > > > (no doubt extraordinarily > > > attractive) photographers in a line all geared out, gaffer's taped,
> > > and dressed up, and pound > > > out Smoke On the Water. > > > > client: "You're too loud!!" > > > > me: "Thank you!" > > > > James > > >
2006-04-24 by Tom Baker
I can beat you on wattage and numbers. That makes me deafer and dumber, I guess.
Tom Baker
Tyler Boley <tyler@...> wrote:
it was always the drummer that was too loud in my case.
But really we all were.
my hearing now sucks bigtime...
for a while years and brain cells ago, I stood in front of two 100
watt stacks. How dumb is that?
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, James Irelan
<james@...> wrote:
>
>
> On Apr 23, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Tyler Boley wrote:
>
> > Looks like we've got a regular league of crafty gentlemen (I know,
> > an obscure reference).
> > I think as soon as possible, we should organize getting all of us
> > (no doubt extraordinarily
> > attractive) photographers in a line all geared out, gaffer's taped,
> > and dressed up, and pound
> > out Smoke On the Water.
>
> client: "You're too loud!!"
>
> me: "Thank you!"
>
> James
>
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2006-04-24 by lulalake_1999
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, James Irelan <james@...> wrote: > > > On Apr 24, 2006, at 12:31 PM, Tyler Boley wrote: > > > it was always the drummer that was too loud in my case. > > But really we all were. > > my hearing now sucks bigtime... > > > > for a while years and brain cells ago, I stood in front of two 100 > > watt stacks. How dumb is that? > > believe it or not, better than standing in front of five trumpets : ) > > James Let us not forget the bass player now girls!! You are right. I was doing a gig some years ago, playing a set that would alternate with a small big band, them my group (at the time) then the big band etc. The venue owners were concerned with the volume so the had a DBmeter checking the room during sound check. At our absolute loudest (11 on the volume scale), bass, drums, two keys, two guitars and 7 singers, we were several DB under the big band's horn section. It's all perception. Jules