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Premier Dual Mat 210 gsm paper

Premier Dual Mat 210 gsm paper

2006-03-23 by frankg_photo

I have done a search here for this paper but didn't turn up anything. I 
would love to hear from people who are familiar with it.
I have been using Premier Fine Art 270 gsm with success but sometimes I 
don't want the cream/vanilla color. I am looking for a White paper that 
is Smooth Matte and acid/lignin free. I found out about Dual Matte 
210g...12mil C2S and it's very Inexpensive. Apparently it's made from 
wood pulp instead of cotton therefore the price reduction - does that 
make it archivally bad ? If you've used it, please let me know what's 
bad/good (other than price) about this product.

thanks,
Frank

RE: [Digital BW] Premier Dual Mat 210 gsm paper

2006-03-24 by Paul Roark

> ...
> I have been using Premier Fine Art 270 gsm with success but sometimes I
> don't want the cream/vanilla color. I am looking for a White paper that
> is Smooth Matte and acid/lignin free. I found out about Dual Matte
> 210g...12mil C2S and it's very Inexpensive. Apparently it's made from
> wood pulp instead of cotton therefore the price reduction - does that
> make it archivally bad? 

I think it might be the best deal for cheap, acid-free paper.  It has an
excellent dmax, is very bright (lots of OBAs), and prints cool.  However,
unlike some other very cold papers, it's not totally out of the mainstream
in terms of its response to inks.  (In fact, it is the cold paper I've used
as the limit for the UT-3D inkset for some purposes.)

In short, it's a real bargain.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

Re: [Digital BW] Premier Dual Mat 210 gsm paper

2006-03-24 by frankg_photo

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> > ...
> > I have been using Premier Fine Art 270 gsm with success but 
sometimes I
> > don't want the cream/vanilla color. I am looking for a White 
paper that
> > is Smooth Matte and acid/lignin free. I found out about Dual Matte
> > 210g...12mil C2S and it's very Inexpensive. Apparently it's made 
from
> > wood pulp instead of cotton therefore the price reduction - does 
that
> > make it archivally bad? 
> 
> I think it might be the best deal for cheap, acid-free paper.  It 
has an
> excellent dmax, is very bright (lots of OBAs), and prints cool.  
However,
> unlike some other very cold papers, it's not totally out of the 
mainstream
> in terms of its response to inks.  (In fact, it is the cold paper 
I've used
> as the limit for the UT-3D inkset for some purposes.)
> 
> In short, it's a real bargain.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>
Thanks Paul - I feel encouraged to give it a try - at the price I 
cant go far wrong - it's considerably cheaper than EEM in this neck 
of the woods. Thing is I want to use a 2200 printer with Epson OEM 
carts and do both B&W and Col interchangeably(I'm trying QTRgui 2.3.1 
for the B&W). The Premier Fine Art 270 gsm has been good for warm 
tone (creamy paper base) B&W and I believe it has very good archival 
properties too. But for col and for 'colder' B&W I prefer a white 
paper base. EEM looks great and prints well but doesnt have a 
good 'archival reputation'. I think a white paper base Always 
necessitates optical brightners but I may be wrong. So having to live 
with optical brightners, I still want the paper to be as archival as 
possible. Hence my search...so far the only other good white paper 
I've found is Entrada fine art Bright (acid & lignin free). Do you 
think Premier dual mat 210gsm is up there in archival and printing 
properties?
thank you,
Frank

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