Digital BW, The Print

Hello folks,

I wonder if anyone has discovered or devised a method that works for
printing the calibration image from within QTR LARGER than the
default. My Spectro colorimeter There are not settings ----WHOA---
I've just answered my own question. Simply print landscape and fill
the entire page. Thanks for listening/reading!!! See how good this
group is--answers just come through by your just thinking hard enough
for me to receive the thought waves.

Your friend in Photography,

Johnny

Hi

I am not very clued up on B&W printing. Largely because attempts in  
the past have been so unsuccessful I have lacked the motivation but,  
reading this list has fired my enthusiasm and I am going to upgrade  
my ESC3000 using the ink set from MIS with Eboni and Paul's very  
helpful support information. However, and the reason for this post, I  
am just at the front end of a set of colour cartridges (OEM) and am  
loth to just ditch them, especially as importing the new inks and  
empty cartridges will take some time. Call me parsimonious if you  
like but I would sooner see out the ink I have before changing and I  
wonder if there is a way of producing even moderately okay black and  
white prints from the standard set up. When I try to, I get a green  
print that looks horrible and I wonder if I lack certain key  
information. I am prepared for someone to tell me I am on a hiding to  
nothing but I hope you do not mind such a basic question being asked  
as clearly I am on the bottom rung of a very tall ladder :0]

Cheers

Drew

Hi

Sorry - wrong subject last time

I am not very clued up on B&W printing. Largely because attempts in  
the past have been so unsuccessful I have lacked the motivation but,  
reading this list has fired my enthusiasm and I am going to upgrade  
my ESC3000 using the ink set from MIS with Eboni and Paul's very  
helpful support information. However, and the reason for this post, I  
am just at the front end of a set of colour cartridges (OEM) and am  
loth to just ditch them, especially as importing the new inks and  
empty cartridges will take some time. Call me parsimonious if you  
like but I would sooner see out the ink I have before changing and I  
wonder if there is a way of producing even moderately okay black and  
white prints from the standard set up. When I try to, I get a green  
print that looks horrible and I wonder if I lack certain key  
information. I am prepared for someone to tell me I am on a hiding to  
nothing but I hope you do not mind such a basic question being asked  
as clearly I am on the bottom rung of a very tall ladder :0]

Cheers

Drew

Andrew,

> ... ESC3000 ... colour cartridges (OEM) and am
> ... I wonder if there is a way of producing even 
> moderately okay black and white prints from the 
> standard set up. 

Probably not.  

> When I try to, I get a green print that looks horrible ...

With excellent profiling one might get a print that looks OK from a distance
and in one light source.  However, it would have very visible dots, color
shift over time and with different light sources, and probably never look
really neutral.  

I suppose most of us have tried to make good B&W with color inks, but it's a
frustrating exercise that will probably fail.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

In a message dated 3/7/06 2:51:34 PM, paul.roark@... writes:


> I suppose most of us have tried to make good B&W with color inks, but it's 
> a
> frustrating exercise that will probably fail.
> 

And the Epson 3000 would be the poster child for the weakness of color inks 
for B&W prints verus B&W inks for B&W prints, as its makes very poor B&W prints 
with the stock color inks, and suprisingly good ones with the right B&W 
inkset (and a bit of luck with machine feed, head condition, etc)...

The posterchild for successful color ink B&W prints would be the new Epson 
2400 and 4800 printers. In addition to their own B&W mode, they print quite 
reasonable B&W through a good color profile, in color ink mode. Not quite as 
ironclad as specialty ink prints, but lightyears ahead of what the 3000 would 
produce with color inks!

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Unit
Datacolor Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com


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