Digital BW, The Print

Martin, 

I think you can get the Torchon for less than $4 a 11x17 sheet!

Check mediastreet.com for "Royal Riviera" at $53.30 for 25 sheets.  That is compared to the digitalartsupplies.com (DAS) price of $72.95 for (10) sheets of Torchon 11x17.   And if you cut the 11x17 in half, you are getting 50 sheets of 8.5 x 11 for $53.30 which is darn cheap for such a nice paper.  (By the way, Torchon is one of my top three favorite papers). 

Also, regarding Structure...check your swatch with your ph test pen....and I think you will find it is not acid free on the back (...I could be mistaken as I tested this weeks ago and do not have my notes at this location).  That may not matter to some folks, but it is important to me. 

That said, I recall that the Structure (mediastreet sells it as Aspen Moguls) printed with very good black...also probably a result of the bright white contrast to the eye.  Structure  is also "only" $39.95 for (10) sheets of 11x17 at DAS versus $29.09 for (20) sheets of Mogul at Mediastreet.com.  That's right...twice as much paper for less dollars...hard to believe isn't it?

It does pay to shop around.

That said, DAS does offer a very good line up of specialty papers (well described in their website and catalog) and if you really want/need something and need it badly...always check them too...they may have it.  I found their customer service to be very responsive...but then again so was the nice customer service rep at mediastreet.

We are lucky to be able to search for these products so quickly and easily on the net.


Steadman

Martin Wrote:
(SNIP)
  Of 
  course with a sheet price of $4 for 11x17 Torchon I don't know how 
  much I will be using! 


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Steadman,

Thanks for all the good info. Cutting down the larger sheets is a 
great idea on these expensive papers. I have perfectly good Rotatrim 
collecting dust.

The rebranding does make the price comparisons a chore but I think we 
can get that all sorted out and easily available.

Martin

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Steadman Uhlich" 
<steadmanuhlich@k...> wrote:
> Martin, 
> 
> I think you can get the Torchon for less than $4 a 11x17 sheet!
> 
> Check mediastreet.com for "Royal Riviera" at $53.30 for 25 sheets.  
That is compared to the digitalartsupplies.com (DAS) price of $72.95 
for (10) sheets of Torchon 11x17.   And if you cut the 11x17 in half, 
you are getting 50 sheets of 8.5 x 11 for $53.30 which is darn cheap 
for such a nice paper.  (By the way, Torchon is one of my top three 
favorite papers). 
> 
> Also, regarding Structure...check your swatch with your ph test 
pen....and I think you will find it is not acid free on the back 
(...I could be mistaken as I tested this weeks ago and do not have my 
notes at this location).  That may not matter to some folks, but it 
is important to me. 
> 
> That said, I recall that the Structure (mediastreet sells it as 
Aspen Moguls) printed with very good black...also probably a result 
of the bright white contrast to the eye.  Structure  is also "only" 
$39.95 for (10) sheets of 11x17 at DAS versus $29.09 for (20) sheets 
of Mogul at Mediastreet.com.  That's right...twice as much paper for 
less dollars...hard to believe isn't it?
> 
> It does pay to shop around.
> 
> That said, DAS does offer a very good line up of specialty papers 
(well described in their website and catalog) and if you really 
want/need something and need it badly...always check them too...they 
may have it.  I found their customer service to be very 
responsive...but then again so was the nice customer service rep at 
mediastreet.
> 
> We are lucky to be able to search for these products so quickly and 
easily on the net.
> 
> 
> Steadman
> 
> Martin Wrote:
> (SNIP)
>   Of 
>   course with a sheet price of $4 for 11x17 Torchon I don't know 
how 

>   much I will be using! 
> 
> 
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Martin,

I buy 37"x47" sheets of Hahnemuhle Torchon, William Turner and German Etching. I pay $250 for 25 ($10 a sheet) sheets from my local distributor. He cuts the sheets in half so I get 50 sheets of approx 24"x36" for $250 ($5 a sheet). I then cut these down further reducing the cost.

I have the dealer make the first cut on their machine because my Rotatrim will only handle 24" wide sheets.

Mike

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: mwesley250@... 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 11:55 PM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Torchon and Structure Price Comparison


  Steadman,

  Thanks for all the good info. Cutting down the larger sheets is a 
  great idea on these expensive papers. I have perfectly good Rotatrim 
  collecting dust.




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Thanks to one and all for all the great information and ideas on the 
Torchon. The price differences are incredible!! Maybe if we spread 
the word, we will see some price drops.

Mike, who is your distributor?

Martin

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Michael J. Kravit" 
<kravit@b...> wrote:
> Martin,
> 
> I buy 37"x47" sheets of Hahnemuhle Torchon, William Turner and 
German Etching. I pay $250 for 25 ($10 a sheet) sheets from my local 
distributor. He cuts the sheets in half so I get 50 sheets of approx 
24"x36" for $250 ($5 a sheet). I then cut these down further reducing 
the cost.
> 
> I have the dealer make the first cut on their machine because my 
Rotatrim will only handle 24" wide sheets.
> 
> Mike
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: mwesley250@e... 
>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y... 
>   Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 11:55 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Torchon and Structure Price Comparison
> 
> 
>   Steadman,
> 
>   Thanks for all the good info. Cutting down the larger sheets is a 
>   great idea on these expensive papers. I have perfectly good 
Rotatrim 

>   collecting dust.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]