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Experiences with new MIS 2200 refill carts ?

Experiences with new MIS 2200 refill carts ?

2005-01-02 by René Bakker

Dear group,

I noticed on the MIS site, that 2200 refill carts are available (I 
didn't found a complete refill kit yet).
What I understand is that the inside of these carts is different from 
the original Epson carts.
Because I'm about to buy a refill kit, I'd like to know if anyone has 
already used these carts, how the refill process went, and if they 
are as reliable as Epson carts.

Thanks in advance,    Rene Bakker
http://home.wanadoo.nl/rene.r.bakker

Re: Experiences with new MIS 2200 refill carts ?

2005-01-02 by Patrick Kealey

I have used the newer carts, and found them more reliable, easier to
refill. they appear, by my experience, as reliable as the epson carts,
have refilled several times with them.
Patrick

-- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, René Bakker
<gretha.bakker@w...> wrote:
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> 
> Dear group,
> 
> I noticed on the MIS site, that 2200 refill carts are available (I 
> didn't found a complete refill kit yet).
> What I understand is that the inside of these carts is different from 
> the original Epson carts.
> Because I'm about to buy a refill kit, I'd like to know if anyone has 
> already used these carts, how the refill process went, and if they 
> are as reliable as Epson carts.
> 
> Thanks in advance,    Rene Bakker
> http://home.wanadoo.nl/rene.r.bakker

Re: Experiences with new MIS 2200 refill carts ?

2005-01-02 by Steven Karafyllakis

The new carts are available for several models; I bought the R300 
version, and am quite happy with them. They have been completely 
reliable, and are very easy to fill.

Steve

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, René ‚akker 
<gretha.bakker@w...> wrote:
> 
> Dear group,
> 
> I noticed on the MIS site, that 2200 refill carts are available (I 
> didn't found a complete refill kit yet).
> What I understand is that the inside of these carts is different 
from 
> the original Epson carts.
> Because I'm about to buy a refill kit, I'd like to know if anyone 
has
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> already used these carts, how the refill process went, and if they 
> are as reliable as Epson carts.
> 
> Thanks in advance,    Rene Bakker
> http://home.wanadoo.nl/rene.r.bakker

RE: [Digital BW] Experiences with new MIS 2200 refill carts ?

2005-01-02 by Paul Roark

I’m totally spoiled by these new carts.  I don't want to mess with any
others now.  (I wonder if the CFS business isn't history.)  

A few issues that I've wondered about with these new carts are as follows:
First, if we are going to be re-using them for a long time, should we be
putting tape over the air inlet holes so that the complex and restricted
inlet design is used properly.  That is, you'll notice the pattern of a
small channel on the top that leads to an inlet.  Then there is a second
inlet that goes straight in.  I think the designers had in mind that the
straight-in fill hole be blocked, and the convoluted, small channel be the
air inlet and be under a label except for the very end of it.  This
restricted air inlet may stop the ink from drying out on the top of the
filter/foam part of the cart.  I've started to tape over the tops of the
carts so that only that small channel allows air in.

Second, when switching carts, I've started to rinse off the outlets before
taping over them to try to minimize the possibility of dry ink getting into
the printer.

Third, I think it might be wise to re-fill or "top off" the carts way before
the printer says they are empty.  I think it might be better to never let
the "filter" (and perhaps ink foam) get dry.

Fourth, the carts start much easier if they are "primed" by pulling some ink
out the outlet with a syringe and a bottom fill adapter.  The idea is to
remove the air bubble that can be left right next to the outlet when the
cart is filled via the fill hole into the reservoir.  (Vacuum filling
eliminated this problem from pre-filled carts.)  

So, I fill the reservoir with a 10 cc syringe and MIS needle, put in the
cork, turn the cart partially upside down so that the air bubble is at the
outlet but the ink is still covering the connection between the reservoir
and filter section, then I try the pull out the air.  I notice MIS has an
adapter for UC carts.  I just filed a standard bottom-fill adapter to 7 mm
(the "snout" of it) and, it seems to work.  

I'm not sure whether this practice would also be a good idea for a used cart
that has been switched out of the printer for a while.  So far, the used
carts that are re-installed seem to start quickly.  If more that one
cleaning cycle is needed, however, I'd guess air has gotten into the outlet
and a "priming" is warranted.

Anyway, we'll learn more about these carts as we get more experience with
them, but right now, they seem ideal.  

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: René Bakker [mailto:gretha.bakker@...] 
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 11:40 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Experiences with new MIS 2200 refill carts ?



Dear group,

I noticed on the MIS site, that 2200 refill carts are available (I 
didn't found a complete refill kit yet).
What I understand is that the inside of these carts is different from 
the original Epson carts.
Because I'm about to buy a refill kit, I'd like to know if anyone has 
already used these carts, how the refill process went, and if they 
are as reliable as Epson carts.

Thanks in advance,    Rene Bakker
http://home.wanadoo.nl/rene.r.bakker





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Re: [Digital BW] Experiences with new MIS 2200 refill carts ?

2005-01-03 by bfwoolner

<I'm totally spoiled by these new carts.  >

Are these carts available for the 1280??

Barbara Woolner
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Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Experiences with new MIS 2200 refill carts ?

RE: [Digital BW] Experiences with new MIS 2200 refill carts ?

2005-01-03 by Paul Roark

Barbara, 

I wish the "easy-refill" carts were available for the 1280, but as far as I
know MIS has not found any.  

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com
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Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 6:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Experiences with new MIS 2200 refill carts ?


<I'm totally spoiled by these new carts.  >

Are these carts available for the 1280??

Barbara Woolner
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From: "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 3:27 PM
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Experiences with new MIS 2200 refill carts ?





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Re: [Digital BW] Experiences with new MIS 2200 refill carts ?

2005-01-03 by bfwoolner

Thanks, Paul.  Actually, I'm quite happy using the UT 2 inks but always 
looking for a better way.  Best wishes to you and your family for a great 
New Year.

Barbara
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Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 10:22 PM
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Experiences with new MIS 2200 refill carts ?



Barbara,

I wish the "easy-refill" carts were available for the 1280, but as far as I
know MIS has not found any.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

-----Original Message-----
From: bfwoolner [mailto:bfwoolner@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 6:19 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Experiences with new MIS 2200 refill carts ?


<I'm totally spoiled by these new carts.  >

Are these carts available for the 1280??

Barbara Woolner
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 3:27 PM
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Experiences with new MIS 2200 refill carts ?





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Re: [Digital BW] Experiences with new MIS 2200 refill carts ?

2005-01-04 by Michael Hung

What about
http://www.inksupply.com/index.cfm?source=html/epsonempty.html#870

"Empty Epson Cartridges"?

Are they "Easy refillable"?

Michael

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> Barbara, 
> 
> I wish the "easy-refill" carts were available for the 1280, but as
far as I
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> know MIS has not found any.  
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com

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