Digital BW, The Print

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ternahan 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 1:47 AM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Take this Test for Fun: Is it Fine Art or is itSpam?


  A portrait's art holds
  silence between heartbeats it's
  time held up to see.

  The camera keeps
  silence shadows secrets dreams
  fleeting memories.

  t

  > From: "Steadman Uhlich" <steadmanuhlich@...>
  > Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  > Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:53:49 -0500
  > To: <piezography3000@yahoogroups.com>,
  > <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
  > Subject: [Digital BW] Take this Test for Fun:  Is it Fine Art or is it Spam?
  > 
  > Greetings Fellow Digital PrintMakers  (and PiezoHeads)!  (This is
  > cross-pollinated on two lists)
  > 
  > After so much discussion of the finer points of dust, clogs, ink, scanning
  > software and other mundane technical stuff, I think it is time we shift gears
  > into the upper atmosphere where the discussion of "high art" takes place.
  > Recently there has been fascinating discussion of Gallery Demands, Portfolios
  > and Exhibitions. 
  > 
  > Not everyone on these lists is a "fine art photographer" obviously as some
  > people buy into the whole digital printing world to just print some snaps of
  > the grandkids...and there is nothing wrong with that.
  > 
  > But as so many of us aspire to raise our images to the highest quality level
  > we can...and perhaps selling price too....we might all be lumped together as
  > "fine art digital printmakers."
  > 
  > Now enough of the soft and easy get you in the mood wordy stuff...
  > 
  > Here is the real question:  What makes a "Fine Art Portrait"....ahem...."fine
  > art?"
  > 
  > What?  Don't you know?
  > 
  > Seriously, I was looking over some commercial photography today and saw many
  > other "portraits" of all types (in Vanity Fair for instance) and even in the
  > newspaper.  
  > 
  > What I would like to throw out to the list(s) is an opportunity to spout off
  > on the merits of a "fine art" portrait versus your plain old everyday run of
  > the mill portrait...you know the kind...the ones that fill our own photo
  > albums and chronicle our own childhoods and those of our children and possibly
  > grandchildren. 
  > 
  > I am curious what you all think about this.   I ask this because I see such a
  > wide range of "portraits" and sometimes there are a few that really stick out
  > and grab me.  Perhaps that is what makes me think "fine art."  Something
  > "sticky" about the shot.
  > 
  > Just to get you guys and gals started, I will throw in a few dastardly
  > opinions...sort of a straw man that you can take apart...or use as a launching
  > pad for your own questionable opinions. :  So here is your chance to wax
  > poetic (loved those haikus), hyper-critical, knowitall, or simply amused (hope
  > someone out there smiles)...or simply spout off the stuff you learned in
  > art/photography school or by reading a book by Ansel or some other more
  > obscure wag.  Whatever your personal spin, see if you can agree or disagree
  > with the following Straw Man (not burning man) and perhaps even add a few
  > points of your own.  I hope you enjoy the "test."
  > 
  > THE STRAW MAN
  > 
  > 1.  A Fine Art Portrait must use the finest materials?
  > 
  > 2.  A Fine Art Portrait looks like it took more than 5 minutes to make...
  > 
  > 3.  A Fine Art Portrait looks like the studio doesn't have cute props or
  > feathered angel wings...
  > 
  > 4.  A Fine Art Portrait looks like the subject has had a bad day (scowling at
  > the camera)...
  > 
  > 5. A Fine Art Portrait looks like the subject is bored (no smiles here Mr.
  > Photographer)...
  > 
  > 6.  A Fine Art Portrait looks like it is "expensive"....
  > 
  > 7.  A Fine Art Portrait is definitely/always/must be in glorious Black &
  > White....
  > 
  > 8.  A Fine Art Portrait is always of someone...else.
  > 
  > Anyway, that should get you started...
  > 
  > Steadman  (elipsis man)
  > 
  > Tune in tomorrow for the Flip Side..."What About Low Art Portraits"...is it
  > art or spam?  (wink)
  > 
  > 
  > 
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