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Forget the Tools: Concentrate on the Art!

Forget the Tools: Concentrate on the Art!

2001-10-15 by Steadman Uhlich

Imagine that two painters have produced art.  One uses a cheap brush from a home depot type store, another painter uses an expensive sable art brush.  One uses cheap paints that are known to fade quickly. Another uses the most expensive paints that show little fading even after a year of direct exposure to the sunlight.  One paints on newsprint paper.  The other paints on the most expensive 100% rag cotton fine art papers.  Are they producing the same?  Using the same method (painting) with similar tools (brush, paint, paper)?  

Or is there something that is separating the two (aside from the image they produce)?  

Could it be that a fine art Quadtone digital print maker is using a tool (printer) that is common with the average print maker (home or office user) but it is all of the other things that really makes the big difference?  I think so. 

A construction worker and a sculptor both use a hammer and chisel.  One creates art. 

In my opinion, the tool (Epson printer) is not the deciding factor...no more so than the brush is what separates the two painters.  It is simply a tool and one of several elements that must be effectively used to elevate an image from a piece of office paper to a piece of fine art. 

Put another way, I am not enamored with my Epson printer.  It is a tool.  (Now if I spend $10,000 on a 7000 system I may be a little more enamored...wink).  I am much more impressed by the ink and paper and software I use and the results....results...I get with them in concert.   In the same way, I am not impressed if someone has a more expensive camera than I do...only if they can produce results that make me go "wow" and then I am really admiring their ability to use the tool...not the tool.  (I guess I am not the typical "tool guy")  

I am much more inclined to tell my visitors about the ink and paper that I use...and even have them touch and hold the papers and see my ink-stained fingers....  It is what they see as the result...it is tangible.  They don't care about the model of the printer or scanner or lens used or software used or monitor used or film or etc...

Sorry if this ramble missed its mark with anyone...it made perfect sense to me at the time. (tired wink)  I hope someone gets something positive out of it.

Steadman 


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Re: Forget the Tools: Concentrate on the Art!

2001-10-15 by Martin Wesley

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Steadman Uhlich" 
<steadmanuhlich@k...> wrote:

(snip) 
> 
> I am much more inclined to tell my visitors about the ink and paper 
that I use...and even have them touch and hold the papers and see my 
ink-stained fingers....  

Steadman,

That's it!! Everyone should just show up at the opening of their 
inkjet show with ink stained fingers, a few spots on you cuffs and 
perhaps a smudge on the chin and talk avidly about their hand made 
inkjet prints! ;-)

Martin

(snip)

Re: Forget the Tools: Concentrate on the Art!

2001-10-15 by mh@toomanyartists.com

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Martin Wesley" <
mwesley250@e...> wrote:
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Steadman Uhlich" 
> <steadmanuhlich@k...> wrote:
> 
> (snip) 
> > 
> > I am much more inclined to tell my visitors about the ink and paper 
> that I use...and even have them touch and hold the papers and see my 
> ink-stained fingers....  
> 
> Steadman,
> 
> That's it!! Everyone should just show up at the opening of their 
> inkjet show with ink stained fingers, a few spots on you cuffs and 
> perhaps a smudge on the chin and talk avidly about their hand made 
> inkjet prints! ;-)
> 
> Martin
> 
> (snip)


I think we should all agree to actually do this. Then we could become a 
group in the pages of art history. The ink stained fingers group or 
inkhaus or something. That would be the funniest.
 We might have to have a similar style though.


-mh

Re: Re: Forget the Tools: Concentrate on the Art!

2001-10-15 by ncm

Steadman,

Sure. Rather cool idea, actually. And InkHaus sounds good. Write up that 
Manifesto. I'm interested. Seriously, it isn't a bad thought to band 
together as a group to protect/inform/combat current negative perception 
of inkjet process, etc. It is a new technology and a new way of making 
art. Yeah, let's start a movement! 

Cheers,

Nina
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>InkHaus!   
>
>Great Idea!
>
>We need a manifesto!  I'll start working on it right away....and post for 
>comments and additions...be thinking about it...I can already see the logo 
>and images... 
>
>Anyone interested?

RE: [Digital BW] Re: Re: Forget the Tools: Concentrate on the Art!

2001-10-15 by Nij

Count me in! This is part of the remit of mwords! Perhaps I can help with
web-space or design... or something? Things are normally quite quiet here
between 4 and 6am ;)

Nij
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ncm [mailto:ncm@...]
> Sent: 15 October 2001 15:07
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Re: Forget the Tools: Concentrate on the Art!
>
>
> Steadman,
>
> Sure. Rather cool idea, actually. And InkHaus sounds good. Write up that
> Manifesto. I'm interested. Seriously, it isn't a bad thought to band
> together as a group to protect/inform/combat current negative perception
> of inkjet process, etc. It is a new technology and a new way of making
> art. Yeah, let's start a movement!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Nina
>
> >InkHaus!
> >
> >Great Idea!
> >
> >We need a manifesto!  I'll start working on it right away....and
> post for
> >comments and additions...be thinking about it...I can already
> see the logo
> >and images...
> >
> >Anyone interested?
>

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Re: Forget the Tools: Concentrate on the Art!

2001-10-15 by jdrucker

I'm all over it!  I can help with the webspace design thing as well, if needed!  I LOVE Inkhaus!

- Jennifer Drucker
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Nij 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 10:31 AM
  Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Re: Re: Forget the Tools: Concentrate on the Art!


  Count me in! This is part of the remit of mwords! Perhaps I can help with
  web-space or design... or something? Things are normally quite quiet here
  between 4 and 6am ;)

  Nij

  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: ncm [mailto:ncm@...]
  > Sent: 15 October 2001 15:07
  > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Re: Forget the Tools: Concentrate on the Art!
  >
  >
  > Steadman,
  >
  > Sure. Rather cool idea, actually. And InkHaus sounds good. Write up that
  > Manifesto. I'm interested. Seriously, it isn't a bad thought to band
  > together as a group to protect/inform/combat current negative perception
  > of inkjet process, etc. It is a new technology and a new way of making
  > art. Yeah, let's start a movement!
  >
  > Cheers,
  >
  > Nina
  >
  > >InkHaus!
  > >
  > >Great Idea!
  > >
  > >We need a manifesto!  I'll start working on it right away....and
  > post for
  > >comments and additions...be thinking about it...I can already
  > see the logo
  > >and images...
  > >
  > >Anyone interested?
  >


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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Forget the Tools: Concentrate on the Art!

2001-10-15 by ternahan

You're on to something here!
Let's submit names and vote.....

inkhaus
carbon riders
pigment pluggers
the quads...
giclee clogs    (doesn't this one make you think of birth control?)
iris streamers
piezo poets

someone stop me and make me do some work....

Martin, you're in charge!
t
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> From: mh@...
> Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 10:15:18 -0000
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Forget the Tools:  Concentrate on the Art!
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Martin Wesley" <
> mwesley250@e...> wrote:
>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Steadman Uhlich"
>> <steadmanuhlich@k...> wrote:
>> 
>> (snip) 
>>> 
>>> I am much more inclined to tell my visitors about the ink and paper
>> that I use...and even have them touch and hold the papers and see my
>> ink-stained fingers....
>> 
>> Steadman,
>> 
>> That's it!! Everyone should just show up at the opening of their
>> inkjet show with ink stained fingers, a few spots on you cuffs and
>> perhaps a smudge on the chin and talk avidly about their hand made
>> inkjet prints! ;-)
>> 
>> Martin
>> 
>> (snip)
> 
> 
> I think we should all agree to actually do this. Then we could become a
> group in the pages of art history. The ink stained fingers group or
> inkhaus or something. That would be the funniest.
> We might have to have a similar style though.
> 
> 
> -mh
> 
> 
> 
> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other
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> - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames."
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> 
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