Digital BW, The Print

Hi,
I have been trying to get onto Paul's site for weeks and every time I 
try I get the "cannot find server" page. I have tried numerous links 
from posted messages and also links from the MIS web site. I have 
also tried variations of the main address. Nothing works. Just tried 
this one:  http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/ but still no luck. I never 
have any problems connecting to any other web site.

Any help would be appreciated as I would love to see his UT2 info.

Thanks,
Paul.

Paul Murphy

This worked fine:
http://home1.gte.net/res0a2zt/photos.html

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Murphy" 
<psmurnan@y...> I have 
> also tried variations of the main address. Nothing works. Just 
tried 
> this one:  http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/ but still no luck. I 
never 
> have any problems connecting to any other web site.
> 
This links works just fine!!! 
Cheers,
Andre

Occasionally people outside the U.S. have trouble accessing my web site.
I'm not sure why.  The problem seems to go away eventually.

I'll send the Html file off list.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

For UT2 information, curves, and settings see:
http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/

___________________

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Murphy [mailto:psmurnan@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 5:54 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Problems connecting to Paul Roark's website

Hi,
I have been trying to get onto Paul's site for weeks and every time I 
try I get the "cannot find server" page. I have tried numerous links 
from posted messages and also links from the MIS web site. I have 
also tried variations of the main address. Nothing works. Just tried 
this one:  http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/ but still no luck. I never 
have any problems connecting to any other web site.

Any help would be appreciated as I would love to see his UT2 info.

Thanks,
Paul.

Paul Murphy





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The link works fine for me also.

Joe


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia 
<mark@c...> wrote:
> This worked fine:
> http://home1.gte.net/res0a2zt/photos.html

Paul Roark wrote:
> Occasionally people outside the U.S. have trouble accessing my web
site.

For me, it's not an occasional problem. I have not been able to to get
to www.paulroark.com for at least six months.

Does anyone here understand how the DNS system works? What does this
tracert report tell us?:

02/19/04 10:32:57 Fast traceroute http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/
Trace http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/ (206.46.189.90) ...
 1 10.50.64.1       10ms   10ms   10ms  TTL:  0  (No rDNS)
 2 211.28.110.1     10ms   10ms   10ms  TTL:  0
(rdl4-ge1.gw.optusnet.com.au ok)
 3 211.29.129.141   20ms   20ms   20ms  TTL:  0
(mas1-pos4-7.gw.optusnet.com.au ok)
 4 211.29.129.37    30ms   20ms   20ms  TTL:  0
(mas5-ge3-4.gw.optusnet.com.au ok)
 5 211.29.129.33    20ms   20ms   20ms  TTL:  0
(mas3-ge2-1.gw.optusnet.com.au ok)
 6 61.88.136.13     30ms   40ms   41ms  TTL:  0  (No rDNS)
 7 203.208.148.101 190ms  191ms  190ms  TTL:  0  (No rDNS)
 8 203.208.172.45  200ms  190ms  190ms  TTL:  0
(p6-1.plapx-cr1.ix.singtel.com bogus rDNS: host not found
[authoritative])
 9 203.208.168.230 211ms  210ms  210ms  TTL:  0  (No rDNS)
10 203.208.168.218 211ms  210ms  210ms  TTL:  0  (No rDNS)
11 4.25.111.25     210ms  200ms  200ms  TTL:  0
(p6-3.lsanca2-cr1.bbnplanet.net ok)
12 4.25.111.2      210ms  200ms  201ms  TTL:  0
(p3-0.lsanca2-br2.bbnplanet.net ok)
13 4.0.9.13        230ms  231ms  231ms  TTL:  0
(p10-0-4.crtntx1-br2.bbnplanet.net ok)
14 4.24.9.242      251ms  231ms  230ms  TTL:  0
(p2-0.crtntx1-cr10.bbnplanet.net ok)
15 4.24.242.94     240ms  230ms  230ms  TTL:  0
(p1-0.verizonol4.bbnplanet.net ok)
16 206.46.128.78   230ms  230ms  230ms  TTL:  0
(gigchannel9-0--12-0.core1.dfw-tx.vzlink.com ok)
17   No Response      *      *      *
18   No Response      *      *      *
19   No Response      *      *      *
20   No Response      *      *      *
21   No Response      *      *      *
22   No Response      *      *      *
23   No Response      *      *      *
24   No Response      *      *      *
25   No Response      *      *      *
26   No Response      *      *      *
27   No Response      *      *      *
28   No Response      *      *      *
29   No Response      *      *      *



Peter Marquis-Kyle
www.marquis-kyle.com.au

> From: Peter Marquis-Kyle [mailto:peter@...]
> 
> For me, it's not an occasional problem. I have not been able to to get
> to www.paulroark.com for at least six months.

Maybe if you try it with an IP address:

http://206.46.189.90/res0a2zt/photos.html

-- 

Ciao,               Paul D. DeRocco
Paul                mailto:pderocco@...

Paul D. DeRocco wrote:
>> From: Peter Marquis-Kyle [mailto:peter@...]
>> 
>> For me, it's not an occasional problem. I have not been able to to
>> get to www.paulroark.com for at least six months.
> 
> Maybe if you try it with an IP address:
> 
> http://206.46.189.90/res0a2zt/photos.html

No, that doesn't work either!

Peter Marquis-Kyle

> No, that doesn't work either!

Try using a proxy server. It seems as if your provider either has a 
block on Paul's IP or they simply are cheap and don't propagate the 
DNS very often.

Bill


www.billschwab.com

> From: Peter Marquis-Kyle [mailto:peter@...]
>
> No, that doesn't work either!

Okay, then it's not a DNS problem, it's a routing problem. I have no idea
how to get around that.

--

Ciao,               Paul D. DeRocco
Paul                mailto:pderocco@...

I have never been able to access Paul's site from here in India ( I have tried through three local ISPs) - so I have simply given up.
Jayanand Govindaraj
Chennai, India

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Peter Marquis-Kyle 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 6:12 AM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Problems connecting to Paul Roark's website


  Paul Roark wrote:
  > Occasionally people outside the U.S. have trouble accessing my web
  site.

  For me, it's not an occasional problem. I have not been able to to get
  to www.paulroark.com for at least six months.

  Does anyone here understand how the DNS system works? What does this
  tracert report tell us?:

  02/19/04 10:32:57 Fast traceroute http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/
  Trace http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/ (206.46.189.90) ...
   1 10.50.64.1       10ms   10ms   10ms  TTL:  0  (No rDNS)
   2 211.28.110.1     10ms   10ms   10ms  TTL:  0
  (rdl4-ge1.gw.optusnet.com.au ok)
   3 211.29.129.141   20ms   20ms   20ms  TTL:  0
  (mas1-pos4-7.gw.optusnet.com.au ok)
   4 211.29.129.37    30ms   20ms   20ms  TTL:  0
  (mas5-ge3-4.gw.optusnet.com.au ok)
   5 211.29.129.33    20ms   20ms   20ms  TTL:  0
  (mas3-ge2-1.gw.optusnet.com.au ok)
   6 61.88.136.13     30ms   40ms   41ms  TTL:  0  (No rDNS)
   7 203.208.148.101 190ms  191ms  190ms  TTL:  0  (No rDNS)
   8 203.208.172.45  200ms  190ms  190ms  TTL:  0
  (p6-1.plapx-cr1.ix.singtel.com bogus rDNS: host not found
  [authoritative])
   9 203.208.168.230 211ms  210ms  210ms  TTL:  0  (No rDNS)
  10 203.208.168.218 211ms  210ms  210ms  TTL:  0  (No rDNS)
  11 4.25.111.25     210ms  200ms  200ms  TTL:  0
  (p6-3.lsanca2-cr1.bbnplanet.net ok)
  12 4.25.111.2      210ms  200ms  201ms  TTL:  0
  (p3-0.lsanca2-br2.bbnplanet.net ok)
  13 4.0.9.13        230ms  231ms  231ms  TTL:  0
  (p10-0-4.crtntx1-br2.bbnplanet.net ok)
  14 4.24.9.242      251ms  231ms  230ms  TTL:  0
  (p2-0.crtntx1-cr10.bbnplanet.net ok)
  15 4.24.242.94     240ms  230ms  230ms  TTL:  0
  (p1-0.verizonol4.bbnplanet.net ok)
  16 206.46.128.78   230ms  230ms  230ms  TTL:  0
  (gigchannel9-0--12-0.core1.dfw-tx.vzlink.com ok)
  17   No Response      *      *      *
  18   No Response      *      *      *
  19   No Response      *      *      *
  20   No Response      *      *      *
  21   No Response      *      *      *
  22   No Response      *      *      *
  23   No Response      *      *      *
  24   No Response      *      *      *
  25   No Response      *      *      *
  26   No Response      *      *      *
  27   No Response      *      *      *
  28   No Response      *      *      *
  29   No Response      *      *      *



  Peter Marquis-Kyle
  www.marquis-kyle.com.au





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Paul,

It seems a lot of folks are having trouble with your
isp. I happen to run a small server that houses other
photogrpahers and artists effectively and
inexpensively. If you'd like to transefer over, let me
know. Your domain name can be pointed within hours.
Multiple T-3 connections, 300 megs of space, FrontPage
Extentions, FTP, 20 email addresses, etc. Never had
any complaints about not being able to connect.
Consider it a donation for all the work you've done
for everyone.

Bill


www.billschwab.com

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Peter Marquis-Kyle writes:

> For me, it's not an occasional problem. I have not been able to to get
> to www.paulroark.com for at least six months.

For what it's worth, I just tried accessing the site (from Paris,
France), and it came up instantly.

> Does anyone here understand how the DNS system works?

I do.

> What does this tracert report tell us?:

It tells you the different nodes through which your connection to
another site passes, although with the delays involved in getting to
each consecutive node.  For some reason, in your case, the connection
isn't getting past the node at hop number 16 (gigchannel9 ...), which is
a node in Texas belonging to Verizon (a major Internet provider).

When I access the site, my path takes a much more direct route, with
a much smaller delay than the one you are seeing at the far end.  Since
I can reach the site and you cannot, chances are that it's not Paul's
site that has the problem, but some other link between you and his site
(most likely the Verizon link at which your traceroute stops).  If it
has been this way for six months, there's probably a configuration
problem somewhere in the network.

  -- Anthony

Paul D. DeRocco writes:

> Okay, then it's not a DNS problem, it's a routing problem. I have no idea
> how to get around that.

I agree.  The ISP with the routing problem has to fix it.  Good luck in
getting that done (whether or not it gets fixed depends on how many
people complain and/or how vigilant the ISP is about verifying that all
routing works).

If your ISP provides proxy servers for Web surfing, you could try going
through those, although there's a good chance that they won't work,
either.

It's possible that the ISP is blocking all traffic from certain parts of
the world.  Some ISPs do this to stall spam, in the somewhat brain-dead
belief that everything that comes from, say, Singapore can only be spam
and nothing else.

Jayanand Govindaraj writes:

> I have never been able to access Paul's site from here in India ( I
> have tried through three local ISPs) - so I have simply given up.
> Jayanand Govindaraj

Can you do a traceroute to see how far the connection gets?

No problem from the UK either.

Bob Frost.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Anthony G. Atkielski" <anthony@...>

> For me, it's not an occasional problem. I have not been able to to get
> to www.paulroark.com for at least six months.

For what it's worth, I just tried accessing the site (from Paris,
France), and it came up instantly.

As an experiment I visited three internet cafes today, all use 
different ISP's, and I could not get onto Paul's site from any of 
them. I am located in Australia. There is a post from another 
Australian (Peter Marquis-Kyle) with the same problem. Perhaps our 
government finds Paul Roark's fade tests a security threat given the 
amount of sunshine we receive down under :-)

Paul Murphy


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Frost" 
<bob@f...> wrote:
> No problem from the UK either.
> 
> Bob Frost.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Anthony G. Atkielski" <anthony@a...>
> 
> > For me, it's not an occasional problem. I have not been able to 
to get

> > to www.paulroark.com for at least six months.
> 
> For what it's worth, I just tried accessing the site (from Paris,
> France), and it came up instantly.

Bill,

This sounds like a possibility.  I'm plenty fed up with Verizon.

I'll contact you off list later.

Thanks.


Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 

For UT2 information, curves, and settings see:
http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/

___________________________

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Schwab [mailto:wilschwab@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 9:00 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Cc: paul.roark@...
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Problems connecting to Paul Roark's website

Paul,

It seems a lot of folks are having trouble with your
isp. I happen to run a small server that houses other
photogrpahers and artists effectively and
inexpensively. If you'd like to transefer over, let me
know. Your domain name can be pointed within hours.
Multiple T-3 connections, 300 megs of space, FrontPage
Extentions, FTP, 20 email addresses, etc. Never had
any complaints about not being able to connect.
Consider it a donation for all the work you've done
for everyone.

Bill


www.billschwab.com

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GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE  OWNER AND
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POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY
TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR
ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY
THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER
MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP.
 
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Just clocked into this thread - I have the same problem as the Aussies 
and the Subcontinent.  Must be incoming traffic from the Pacific.  I 
know nothing of the routing stuff but happy to do something to trace 
the problem with instructions.  I am a newbie and would really like to 
take a look at Paul's site - have been trying without success for 3 
months.

Paul - what is your call on using an Epson 1200 for BW? Would that be 
MIS VM, fill your own carts?  Although the 1200 is listed in the MIS 
workflow page for VM, they don't list pre-filled carts or CFS with 
these inks for the 1200.
Thanks
Robin

Robin Connor
Wellington, NZ.
On 20/02/2004, at 5:47am, Paul Roark wrote:

> Bill,
>
> This sounds like a possibility.  I'm plenty fed up with Verizon.
>
> I'll contact you off list later.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>
> For UT2 information, curves, and settings see:
> http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/
>
> ___________________________
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Schwab [mailto:wilschwab@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 9:00 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: paul.roark@...
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Problems connecting to Paul Roark's website
>
> Paul,
>
> It seems a lot of folks are having trouble with your
> isp. I happen to run a small server that houses other
> photogrpahers and artists effectively and
> inexpensively. If you'd like to transefer over, let me
> know. Your domain name can be pointed within hours.
> Multiple T-3 connections, 300 megs of space, FrontPage
> Extentions, FTP, 20 email addresses, etc. Never had
> any complaints about not being able to connect.
> Consider it a donation for all the work you've done
> for everyone.
>
> Bill
>
>
> www.billschwab.com


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Paul Murphy writes:

> As an experiment I visited three internet cafes today, all use 
> different ISP's, and I could not get onto Paul's site from any of 
> them. I am located in Australia. There is a post from another 
> Australian (Peter Marquis-Kyle) with the same problem. Perhaps our 
> government finds Paul Roark's fade tests a security threat given the 
> amount of sunshine we receive down under :-)

I don't think there are too many pipes between Australia and the rest of
the world.  All the ISPs you tried may be going through the same Verizon
node that seems to have the problem.

Robin,

>... have been trying without success for 3 months.

I may just put a duplicate of some of the material on another site.

>Paul - what is your call on using an Epson 1200 for BW? Would that be 
>MIS VM, fill your own carts?  Although the 1200 is listed in the MIS 
>workflow page for VM, they don't list pre-filled carts or CFS with 
>these inks for the 1200.

The curves are there for the 1200 & MIS VM.  The 1200 is getting a bit old,
but I've seen some excellent B&W from it.  I think some have even used the
old curves with the UT1 inkset in the 1200.  It's not up to running the UT2
inkset, however.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 

For UT2 information, curves, and settings see:
http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/