Digital BW, The Print

I found a "Beige" G3 mac in good shape at a great price and a "Blue and
White" at a not as good a price. Question, are either  (or both) of these
enough machine to run either of the two rips that have been given pretty
high praise on this forum?

I  have about decided a linux box/freeBSD box to run QuadTone is more
trouble than it is worth, particularly the lack of a friendly interface in
linux. If  either of the G3's are practical then they are within my price
range where G4's are still a little dear.

Roger

Roger L Sopher
rlsopher@...
http:\\deCorrales.com




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Hi Roger

What are you paying for these?

I'm not sure, but the beige may be more difficult to use w/ OSX?  You might
want to enquire on the OSX lists @
http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/X4U.html

Bill Morse
PhotoProspect
Cambridge, MA USA


on 8/2/03 1:46 PM, Roger L Sopher wrote:

> I found a "Beige" G3 mac in good shape at a great price and a "Blue and
> White" at a not as good a price. Question, are either  (or both) of these
> enough machine to run either of the two rips that have been given pretty
> high praise on this forum?
> 
> I  have about decided a linux box/freeBSD box to run QuadTone is more
> trouble than it is worth, particularly the lack of a friendly interface in
> linux. If  either of the G3's are practical then they are within my price
> range where G4's are still a little dear.
> 
> Roger
> 
> Roger L Sopher
> rlsopher@...
> http:\\deCorrales.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Hi Bill,

A Beige with 256mb ram and a 266 processor, a scrawney hard drive , key
board, mouse is $119.00 I have a number of hard drives I can put in so that
is of no consequence if the bios can recognize IDE 30gb drives and larger. I
really don't want to go SCSI if it can be avoided. I do have a PCI IDE 133
interface card (for a pc) that might provide a solution. My major question
is whether this machine will be able to print something in less than a week
:-))

Comes with OS 8.6 and is supposedly upgradable to OS X.

Roger

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Bill Morse [mailto:willym@...]
  Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 2:06 PM
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Mac for RIP


  Hi Roger

  What are you paying for these?

  I'm not sure, but the beige may be more difficult to use w/ OSX?  You
might
  want to enquire on the OSX lists @
  http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/X4U.html

  Bill Morse
  PhotoProspect
  Cambridge, MA USA


  on 8/2/03 1:46 PM, Roger L Sopher wrote:

  > I found a "Beige" G3 mac in good shape at a great price and a "Blue and
  > White" at a not as good a price. Question, are either  (or both) of
these
  > enough machine to run either of the two rips that have been given pretty
  > high praise on this forum?
  >
  > I  have about decided a linux box/freeBSD box to run QuadTone is more
  > trouble than it is worth, particularly the lack of a friendly interface
in
  > linux. If  either of the G3's are practical then they are within my
price
  > range where G4's are still a little dear.
  >
  > Roger
  >
  > Roger L Sopher
  > rlsopher@...
  > http:\\deCorrales.com
  >
  >
  >
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I an running the Imageprint rip on a "Blue and White" G3 and it seem to
be working just fine. You can up grade the "Blue and White" to a G4
500MZ for about $300.00

Steve

Roger L Sopher wrote:

> 
> I found a "Beige" G3 mac in good shape at a great price and a "Blue
> and
> White" at a not as good a price. Question, are either  (or both) of
> these
> enough machine to run either of the two rips that have been given
> pretty
> high praise on this forum?
> 
> I  have about decided a linux box/freeBSD box to run QuadTone is more
> trouble than it is worth, particularly the lack of a friendly
> interface in
> linux. If  either of the G3's are practical then they are within my
> price
> range where G4's are still a little dear.
> 
> Roger
> 
> Roger L Sopher
> rlsopher@...
> http:\\deCorrales.com
> 
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Get a bottom of the line eMac. It's a G4 and is probably much better than the G3. I have one but I bought the top of the line and maxed out the RAM. Have over a gig. It has a 17 inch flat CRT screen. Very sharp. I have not been disappointed with the performance or the price.

Russ Martin


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Roger L Sopher writes:
 > I found a "Beige" G3 mac in good shape at a great price and a "Blue and
 > White" at a not as good a price. Question, are either  (or both) of these
 > enough machine to run either of the two rips that have been given pretty
 > high praise on this forum?
 > 
 > I  have about decided a linux box/freeBSD box to run QuadTone is more
 > trouble than it is worth, particularly the lack of a friendly interface in
 > linux. If  either of the G3's are practical then they are within my price
 > range where G4's are still a little dear.

I managed to install OS X onto a low-end beige G3, but it was
extremely frustrating until I discovered the magic trick.  It turns
out that I needed to update the firmware on the machine's scsi
controller, and once I did that it all went very simply.  It was only
by dumb luck that I googled across a mostly japanese article about the
fix and was able to pick out enough english/geek words to make an
educated guess.

I can't speak to whether it has enough horsepower or not, but it
certainly *should*.  You might just have to be a bit more patient.

g.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Roger 
L Sopher" <rlsopher@c...> wrote:
> Hi Bill,
> 
>A Beige with 256mb ram and a 266 processor, a scrawney 
>hard drive , keyboard, mouse is $119.00 I have a number of 
>hard drives I can put in so that is of no consequence if the bios 
>can recognize IDE 30gb drives and larger. I really don't want to 
>go SCSI if it can be avoided. I do have a PCI IDE 133
>interface card (for a pc) that might provide a solution. My major 
>question is whether this machine will be able to print 
>something in less than a week
> :-))
> 
>Comes with OS 8.6 and is supposedly upgradable to OS X.

That Beige G3 can handle IDE/ATA drivesof most any capacity. 
Maximum RAM capacity is 768mb, which about what you should 
put in it for this work, IMO. An, yes, it *will* run OS X, though 
perhaps not with the same sparkle and snap as with a faster 
Mac; the good news is that it's easily upgradable in terms of 
processor speed.

- Barrett

> That Beige G3 can handle IDE/ATA drivesof most any capacity. 
> Maximum RAM capacity is 768mb, which about what you should 
> put in it for this work, IMO. An, yes, it *will* run OS X, though 
> perhaps not with the same sparkle and snap as with a faster 
> Mac; the good news is that it's easily upgradable in terms of 
> processor speed.
> 
> - Barrett

Here's a link for software to install OS X on older Macs:

http://eshop.macsales.com/OSXCenter/XPostFacto/