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MIS explination

MIS explination

2003-05-22 by str8shooter2u

Sorry for the dumb question, but would someone please explain MIS 
inks.  I have an epson 2200 and am looking for better results for my 
prints.  Printing in the black only setting is OK but lack some 
depth.  I've heard that getting the epson RIP will help, but I 
really don't understand why other than controlling the ink 
differently.  Thanks.

RE: [Digital BW] MIS explination

2003-05-22 by Daniel Staver

> Sorry for the dumb question, but would someone please explain MIS 
> inks.  I have an epson 2200 and am looking for better results for my 
> prints.  Printing in the black only setting is OK but lack some 
> depth.  I've heard that getting the epson RIP will help, but I 
> really don't understand why other than controlling the ink 
> differently.  Thanks.

The default Epson driver uses large amounts of color inks together to
create the appearance of gray.

Imageprint, Epson StylusRIP and iProof PowerRIP uses mainly black and
light black with only very small amounts of cyan and magenta to make
neutral blacks. This removes metamerism which is mainly caused by the
large amount of yellow Epson uses to simulate gray.

The black and light blacks are not neutral, they are warm brown.
Especially the light black. That's why some cyan and magenta is needed
to cool down the tone of the print.

The results with these RIP's can be very good. Imageprint is the most
well known, but at $495 also the most expensive. Reports about the Epson
StylysRIP have been mixed, but it sounds like good results are possible.
At $200 it's much cheaper than Imageprint. iProof PowerRIP costs $299
and is easy to use, but not tested by many people for BW printing.

The MIS inks are unrelated to this, they are a separate inkset with only
tones of gray. Currently they are not available for the 2200.

--
Daniel Staver
http://daniel.staver.no

RE: [Digital BW] MIS explination

2003-05-22 by Tim Atherton

Have you tried these profiles?

They are for the 7600 etc, but apparently they will work with the 21/2200.

(I can't try them, I'm between not having a 2200 at work any more and
getting one for myself....)

http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/EditorialAnnouncement.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=
yes&oid=28155562

http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/EditorialAnnouncement.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=
yes&oid=28155563

according to a review by George deWolfe in View Camera, on the bigger
printers they do a good job

tim
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> Sorry for the dumb question, but would someone please explain MIS
> inks.  I have an epson 2200 and am looking for better results for my
> prints.  Printing in the black only setting is OK but lack some
> depth.  I've heard that getting the epson RIP will help, but I
> really don't understand why other than controlling the ink
> differently.  Thanks.
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RE: [Digital BW] MIS explination

2003-05-22 by Richard Garini

thanks...Much easier to understand now.


>From: "Daniel Staver" <daniel@...>
>Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RE: [Digital BW] MIS explination
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 16:21:36 +0200
>
> > Sorry for the dumb question, but would someone please explain MIS
> > inks.  I have an epson 2200 and am looking for better results for my
> > prints.  Printing in the black only setting is OK but lack some
> > depth.  I've heard that getting the epson RIP will help, but I
> > really don't understand why other than controlling the ink
> > differently.  Thanks.
>
>The default Epson driver uses large amounts of color inks together to
>create the appearance of gray.
>
>Imageprint, Epson StylusRIP and iProof PowerRIP uses mainly black and
>light black with only very small amounts of cyan and magenta to make
>neutral blacks. This removes metamerism which is mainly caused by the
>large amount of yellow Epson uses to simulate gray.
>
>The black and light blacks are not neutral, they are warm brown.
>Especially the light black. That's why some cyan and magenta is needed
>to cool down the tone of the print.
>
>The results with these RIP's can be very good. Imageprint is the most
>well known, but at $495 also the most expensive. Reports about the Epson
>StylysRIP have been mixed, but it sounds like good results are possible.
>At $200 it's much cheaper than Imageprint. iProof PowerRIP costs $299
>and is easy to use, but not tested by many people for BW printing.
>
>The MIS inks are unrelated to this, they are a separate inkset with only
>tones of gray. Currently they are not available for the 2200.
>
>--
>Daniel Staver
>http://daniel.staver.no
>
>

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