Digital BW, The Print

Hi Mike,

You wrote:

>I have been getting very nice results utilizing Burkholders Curve
>for the 1280 and tweaking it a bit.  ...

My goal, however, was to press the 3000 into service.  For that old
workhorse, I think the Cone driver might be the only way to get adequate
smoothness.  On the other hand, I may end up trying the Epson driver and
curves, just to see what happens.

>I am now working on silver and platinum curves for my  Epson
>10000.

That would be the expensive solution to my problem.

>... Pictorico has just released a the film in a 24" roll size.

Exactly -- that is why I'm suddenly re-interested in digital internegatives.
(I went the imagesetter route, among others, and decided I never want to
work with another service bureau, especially now that I'm in the relative
sticks of Solvang.)

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com

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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark" <
paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> Stephen,
>
> You wrote:
>
> >Have you tried your MIS dye mix with Pictoro media,
> >especially the transparent media. Some of us are still
> >looking for the holy grail for digital negative making.
>
> Yes, and the ink densities that work on paper don't work well
on the film.
> I've increased the midtone ink densities so that the steps in
the ramp are
> close, but there appears to be non-linear absorption
compared to the
> pigmented inks.  I'm not sure without a separate profile that I'm
going to
> be able to tame the combination.  (Since I'm about to take off
for a week, I
> probably won't have more information for a while.)
>

Mike,

Do you get pizza wheel tracks on your negatives?

Thanks,
Kemal

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mkravit wrote:

> 
> 
> I have been getting very nice results utilizing Burkholders Curve
> for the 1280 and tweeking it a bit. On Pictorico film and Epson
> dye, my silver prints are visually indestinguishable from the
> enlarged negative prints. Except of course, all of the
> manipulations are already complete on the digital negative.
> 
> I am now working on silver and platinum curves for my  Epson
> 10000.  The platinum prints are stunning.  Yesterday I made a
> 17"x22" platinum negative on Pictorico film. Pictorico has just
> released a the film in a 24" roll size.
> 
> The 1280 negatives look very close to the 10000. The curves are
> a bit different, but the results are very close.  I am very excited
> about the results I have been getting. No more building enlarged
> negatives to meet the contrast requirements of platinum.
> 
> Mike

In a message dated 6/29/02 10:30:44 PM, lrryr@... writes:

>Does anyone know which wide carriage model the C80 is akin to?

None, actually... its designed as an office machine, but I find it to be an 
excellent photo printer for uses it is not really marketed for... as you have 
determined yourself.

C. David Tobie
Design Cooperative
CDTobie@...

No, the Epson 10000 does nothave Pizza Wheels. It hase white 
plastic rollers that do not leave marks.

Mike


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Kemal Delic <
deli@s...> wrote:
> Mike,
> 
> Do you get pizza wheel tracks on your negatives?
> 
> Thanks,
> Kemal
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> mkravit wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > I have been getting very nice results utilizing Burkholders 
Curve
> > for the 1280 and tweeking it a bit. On Pictorico film and 
Epson
> > dye, my silver prints are visually indestinguishable from the
> > enlarged negative prints. Except of course, all of the
> > manipulations are already complete on the digital negative.
> > 
> > I am now working on silver and platinum curves for my  
Epson
> > 10000.  The platinum prints are stunning.  Yesterday I made 
a
> > 17"x22" platinum negative on Pictorico film. Pictorico has just
> > released a the film in a 24" roll size.
> > 
> > The 1280 negatives look very close to the 10000. The curves 
are
> > a bit different, but the results are very close.  I am very excited
> > about the results I have been getting. No more building 
enlarged

> > negatives to meet the contrast requirements of platinum.
> > 
> > Mike

Paul,

My friend Jeff and I have compared Image Setter Negs to Negs 
made on the 1280. The Image Setters were a tad sharper but 
once printed in platinum the additional sharpness made no 
difference in the print due top the nature of the processs.

Know what you mean about the service bureaus.

Mike


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark" <
paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> Hi Mike,
> 
> You wrote:
> 
> >I have been getting very nice results utilizing Burkholders 
Curve
> >for the 1280 and tweaking it a bit.  ...
> 
> My goal, however, was to press the 3000 into service.  For that 
old
> workhorse, I think the Cone driver might be the only way to get 
adequate
> smoothness.  On the other hand, I may end up trying the 
Epson driver and
> curves, just to see what happens.
> 
> >I am now working on silver and platinum curves for my  
Epson
> >10000.
> 
> That would be the expensive solution to my problem.
> 
> >... Pictorico has just released a the film in a 24" roll size.
> 
> Exactly -- that is why I'm suddenly re-interested in digital 
internegatives.
> (I went the imagesetter route, among others, and decided I 
never want to
> work with another service bureau, especially now that I'm in the 
relative
> sticks of Solvang.)
> 
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com
> 
> ____________________
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark" <
> paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> > Stephen,
> >
> > You wrote:
> >
> > >Have you tried your MIS dye mix with Pictoro media,
> > >especially the transparent media. Some of us are still
> > >looking for the holy grail for digital negative making.
> >
> > Yes, and the ink densities that work on paper don't work well
> on the film.
> > I've increased the midtone ink densities so that the steps in
> the ramp are
> > close, but there appears to be non-linear absorption
> compared to the
> > pigmented inks.  I'm not sure without a separate profile that 
I'm

> going to
> > be able to tame the combination.  (Since I'm about to take off
> for a week, I
> > probably won't have more information for a while.)
> >