Digital BW, The Print

Hi Steadman!

Just got your samples of the Eclipse 300 gsm paper along with the other papers.  This is a magnificent
paper. About as nice as any I've yet seen. Therefore it must cost much more than I can afford, right? If
this paper were affordable, and if it is archival in tests and if it doesn't fade, if, if, if, one wouldn't
need many other papers!

Also tried the photo Rag, which is also excellent, except too cream colored for me.

Thanks Steadman!

Jerry

on 8/22/01 4:00 PM, Jerry Olson wrote:

> Hi Steadman!
> 
> Just got your samples of the Eclipse 300 gsm paper along with the other
> papers.  This is a magnificent
> paper. About as nice as any I've yet seen. Therefore it must cost much more
> than I can afford, right? If
> this paper were affordable, and if it is archival in tests and if it doesn't
> fade, if, if, if, one wouldn't
> need many other papers!
> 
> Also tried the photo Rag, which is also excellent, except too cream colored
> for me.
> 
> Thanks Steadman!
> 
> Jerry


Alright Olsen, where'd you get the Photo Rag?

Todd

PS, What inks where used on the Eclipse paper. From what Martin and I were
hearing I'm getting the impression it works better with MIS inks than Piezo
- that true Steadman or did you use Piezo?

Todd, 

The HWRS photo rag came from me.  I got a few sheets by contacting Hahnemuhle Germany back in June.  I would not go that route now (it takes time), as the paper will hit the streets very soon (any day now) and you will be able to order it directly from a paper supplier here in the US.  (check recent posts, I suggested several sources).  

The Eclipse Satine 300gsm is a very nice paper and has a very nice surface, tone, and weight.  It is very smooth too.  But I am using it with my new PiezoColor setup on a 1200 with CIS.  The prints I did on the 1160 with PiezoBW did not give the best results.  Color prints are fine...I ordered another box recently and will order more...I like it that much.

Remember that there at least three Eclipse weights (190?, 300, and 350) and two surface finishes (satine and velvet).   One good thing about it for testing purposes is that it is double sided (coated)  and you can "get two prints per sheet" so your cost is half.

I cannot try the Eclipse with MIS inks because all three of my printers are filled now with Piezo inks.  Jerry has some Eclipse sheets so he can test the MISVM inkset on it. 

Regards, 
Steadman

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Todd Flashner 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 3:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Eclipse Paper


  on 8/22/01 4:00 PM, Jerry Olson wrote:

  > Hi Steadman!
  > 
  > Just got your samples of the Eclipse 300 gsm paper along with the other
  > papers.  This is a magnificent
  > paper. About as nice as any I've yet seen. Therefore it must cost much more
  > than I can afford, right? If
  > this paper were affordable, and if it is archival in tests and if it doesn't
  > fade, if, if, if, one wouldn't
  > need many other papers!
  > 
  > Also tried the photo Rag, which is also excellent, except too cream colored
  > for me.
  > 
  > Thanks Steadman!
  > 
  > Jerry


  Alright Olsen, where'd you get the Photo Rag?

  Todd

  PS, What inks where used on the Eclipse paper. From what Martin and I were
  hearing I'm getting the impression it works better with MIS inks than Piezo
  - that true Steadman or did you use Piezo?


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Flashman!

Got the paper from Steadman. We traded papers. I had excess Museo, he had lots of samples. I didn't use
Piezo inks as several on the list said it didn't work well. on photo rag. I only got 2 sheets, It sort of
looks like Epson Archival but thicker and creamier. Or thinner and creamier, depending on which weight you
use. In order to use it properly with the MIS inks, an adjustment would have to be made, as the stepwedge
isn't smooth from step to step.

>
>
> Alright Olsen, where'd you get the Photo Rag?

And that's OlsOn. :)

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> Todd
>
> PS, What inks where used on the Eclipse paper. From what Martin and I were
> hearing I'm getting the impression it works better with MIS inks than Piezo
> - that true Steadman or did you use Piezo?
>
>
> Please visit the Group Homepage often and check the resources their regularly. The page can be found at:
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> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
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