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Proofing papers

2016-08-21 by Richard Smallfield

Hello,
some may remember me from many years ago.

I use either Ilford Gold Fibre Silk or Canson Baryta Photographique for my exhibition prints and want to find a good proofing paper for them, as the cheaper papers I've found tend to be too bright, making them a poor match for the papers I do my final prints on.

The best cheap proofing paper I've found has been PremierArt Economy Satin, as its hue and surface is the closest I've found in an RC paper to thr FB papers I use - but my previous suppliers no longer sell it.

Anyway, alternative suggestions would be most welcome.

Many thanks,
Richard


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Re: Proofing papers

2016-08-22 by donsbryant@...

Why fool around with a substitute paper? Just proof on the paper that you want to make the final print on.

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Proofing papers

2016-08-22 by Brubaker family

Cost is the reason.  Using an inexpensive proofing paper lets you experiment and adjust without burning through a pile of the expensive final paper.  Then when you feel you are where you want to be you can make final adjustments on proof pieces of the final paper.

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On Mon, 8/22/16, donsbryant@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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 Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Proofing papers
 To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Monday, August 22, 2016, 11:31 AM
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       Why fool around with a substitute paper? Just proof
 on the paper that you want to make the final print on.
 
     
      
 
     
     
 
 
 
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Proofing papers

2016-08-22 by John Castronovo

Maybe you should invest in better color management so that your soft proof 
on the monitor is a nearly perfect match to your final print. Also, I almost 
always have scraps of by good papers around and when in doubt, I run a 
section of the image on the scrap.
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-----Original Message----- 
From: Brubaker family brubaker_family@... 
[DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 3:23 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Proofing papers

Cost is the reason.  Using an inexpensive proofing paper lets you experiment 
and adjust without burning through a pile of the expensive final paper. 
Then when you feel you are where you want to be you can make final 
adjustments on proof pieces of the final paper.

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On Mon, 8/22/16, donsbryant@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] 
<DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Proofing papers
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 22, 2016, 11:31 AM












       Why fool around with a substitute paper? Just proof
on the paper that you want to make the final print on.









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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Proofing papers

2016-08-22 by Richard Smallfield

Yes, that's how I work.

Richard

On 23 August 2016 at 07:23, Brubaker family brubaker_family@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Cost is the reason. Using an inexpensive proofing paper lets you experiment and adjust without burning through a pile of the expensive final paper. Then when you feel you are where you want to be you can make final adjustments on proof pieces of the final paper.

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On Mon, 8/22/16, donsbryant@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Proofing papers
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 22, 2016, 11:31 AM












Why fool around with a substitute paper? Just proof
on the paper that you want to make the final print on.









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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Proofing papers

2016-08-22 by Paul Roark

Canson Baryta (along with Museo Silver Rag) used to be my standard baryta papers. Now the new Red River Baryta v. 2 is taking over that category for me. It is very similar to the Canson product and can even use the same profiles, and it costs less.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Proofing papers

2016-08-22 by Richard Smallfield

Wow - that's great to know, Paul. Thanks so much.

Richard
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On 23 August 2016 at 09:25, Paul Roark roark.paul@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Canson Baryta (along with Museo Silver Rag) used to be my standard baryta papers. Now the new Red River Baryta v. 2 is taking over that category for me. It is very similar to the Canson product and can even use the same profiles, and it costs less.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com




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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Proofing papers

2016-08-22 by Richard Smallfield

Is that San Gabriel paper? That's all I can find.
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On 23 August 2016 at 09:25, Paul Roark roark.paul@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Canson Baryta (along with Museo Silver Rag) used to be my standard baryta papers. Now the new Red River Baryta v. 2 is taking over that category for me. It is very similar to the Canson product and can even use the same profiles, and it costs less.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com




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Re: Proofing papers

2016-08-23 by Richard Smallfield

Thanks for the tips. I actually need a whole new computer as my Dell Laptop is old and doesn't have a great monitor and my external monitor isn9;t working (probably a fault with the laptop).

I use a Datacolor Spyder for calibration.

R
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On Tuesday, 23 August 2016, 'John Castronovo' jc@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Maybe you should invest in better color management so that your soft proof
on the monitor is a nearly perfect match to your final print. Also, I almost
always have scraps of by good papers around and when in doubt, I run a
section of the image on the scrap.

-----Original Message-----
From: Brubaker family brubaker_family@yahoo.com
[DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 3:23 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Proofing papers

Cost is the reason. Using an inexpensive proofing paper lets you experiment
and adjust without burning through a pile of the expensive final paper.
Then when you feel you are where you want to be you can make final
adjustments on proof pieces of the final paper.

--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 8/22/16, donsbryant@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]
<DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Proofing papers
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 22, 2016, 11:31 AM

Why fool around with a substitute paper? Just proof
on the paper that you want to make the final print on.

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RE: [Digital BW] Re: Proofing papers

2016-08-23 by Dr. Elliot Puritz

I believe the correct name is: SanGabriel Baryta SG 2.0.

 

I agree with Paul’s comments about the three papers noted.

 

Elliot
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From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 5:43 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Proofing papers

 

  

Is that San Gabriel paper? That's all I can find.

 

On 23 August 2016 at 09:25, Paul Roark roark.paul@... <mailto:roark.paul@gmail.com>  [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > wrote:

  

Canson Baryta (along with Museo Silver Rag) used to be my standard baryta papers.  Now the new Red River Baryta v. 2 is taking over that category for me.  It is very similar to the Canson product and can even use the same profiles, and it costs less.

 

Paul

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Re: Proofing papers

2016-08-23 by Richard Smallfield

Thanks - I must have gone to an old page with the old name, but found the right page later.

I was about to buy it, but it worked out that Canson was cheaper to NZ once shipping was included.

It's a shame, because Red River are very good to deal with in my experience.

Thanks again,
Richard
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On Tuesday, 23 August 2016, 'Dr. Elliot Puritz' drpuritz@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I believe the correct name is: SanGabriel Baryta SG 2.0.

I agree with Paul’s comments about the three papers noted.

Elliot

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Is that San Gabriel paper? That's all I can find.

On 23 August 2016 at 09:25, Paul Roark roark.paul@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Canson Baryta (along with Museo Silver Rag) used to be my standard baryta papers. Now the new Red River Baryta v. 2 is taking over that category for me. It is very similar to the Canson product and can even use the same profiles, and it costs less.

Paul




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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Proofing papers

2016-08-23 by Paul Roark

Yes, it's Red River SanGabriel Baryta SG 2.0. The SG is for semi-gloss. (I have no idea why SanGabriel is run together.)

Paul
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On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Richard Smallfield rwsmallfield@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Is that San Gabriel paper? That's all I can find.

On 23 August 2016 at 09:25, Paul Roark roark.paul@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Canson Baryta (along with Museo Silver Rag) used to be my standard baryta papers. Now the new Red River Baryta v. 2 is taking over that category for me. It is very similar to the Canson product and can even use the same profiles, and it costs less.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com




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