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Yahoo migration?

2016-05-04 by djon43@...

First, it's not a sure thing that Yahoo will abandon Groups or Mail, but that does seem possible.


Google Groups may be most similar to Yahoo Groups....but I suspect that, with Google, Photos (including old ones/legacy) wouldn't be integrated the way they are with our Yahoo group...they would have to be moved/sent independently to Flickr...


In any case our admin or someone else with access should try to save current member contact list w/email to Excel or Google version of Excel. That would enable restoring relations that might otherwise be lost.


We might instead consider a blog, perhaps via Wordpress.org (which might be free).





Re: [Digital BW] Yahoo migration?

2016-05-04 by forums@walkerblackwell.com

EpsonWideFormat just migrated to groups.io <http://groups.io/>. The transition was quite seamless. It went live today.

I suggest that. The person who started groups.io is the same person who started Yahoo groups.

best,
Walker
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Re: [Digital BW] Yahoo migration?

2016-05-04 by Keith Schreiber

The Epson Wide Format group just migrated to Groups.io which seems to have gone well.

Keith
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Re: [Digital BW] Yahoo migration?

2016-05-04 by Mark Savoia

I can chime in as co-moderator of the EpsonWideFormat group (over 6500 members).

groups.io did a great job of the transition. Many new features that Yahoo just could never get right. I recommend.

Mark
stillrivereditions.com <http://stillrivereditions.com/>
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> On May 4, 2016, at 3:34 PM, 'forums@walkerblackwell.com' forums@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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Re: [Digital BW] Yahoo migration?

2016-05-04 by Paul Roark

Is there any way to preserve the archives and searchability of them? That is a resource and history that would be ashamed to lose.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com
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On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Mark Savoia mark@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I can chime in as co-moderator of the EpsonWideFormat group (over 6500 members).


groups.io did a great job of the transition. Many new features that Yahoo just could never get right. I recommend.

Mark

On May 4, 2016, at 3:34 PM, 'forums@...' forums@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



EpsonWideFormat just migrated to groups.io. The transition was quite seamless. It went live today.

I suggest that. The person who started groups.io is the same person who started Yahoo groups.

best,
Walker

On May 4, 2016, at 3:28 PM, djon43@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


First, it's not a sure thing that Yahoo will abandon Groups or Mail, but that does seem possible.


Google Groups may be most similar to Yahoo Groups....but I suspect that, with Google, Photos (including old ones/legacy) wouldn't be integrated the way they are with our Yahoo group...they would have to be moved/sent independently to Flickr...


In any case our admin or someone else with access should try to save current member contact list w/email to Excel or Google version of Excel. That would enable restoring relations that might otherwise be lost.


We might instead consider a blog, perhaps via Wordpress.org (which might be free).











Re: [Digital BW] Yahoo migration?

2016-05-05 by Ben Albu

Hi Paul,

I didn't look at it thoroughly, but I guess migrating the archives of 
Yahoo groups would be possible. In fact it seems that is possible to 
migrate the whole Yahoo group.

Searchability won't be a problem. Take a look into this existing group: 
https://groups.io/g/EpsonWideFormat/messages?start=1:2016:-120

R,

Ben


On 4/05/2016 22:58, Paul Roark roark.paul@... 
[DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] wrote:
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> Is there any way to preserve the archives and searchability of them?  
> That is a resource and history that would be ashamed to lose.
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> www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.PaulRoark.com>
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> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Mark Savoia 
> mark@... <mailto:mark@...> 
> [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] 
> <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
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>     I can chime in as co-moderator of the EpsonWideFormat group (over
>     6500 members).
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>     groups.io <http://groups.io> did a great job of the transition.
>     Many new features that Yahoo just could never get right. I recommend.
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>     Mark
>     stillrivereditions.com <http://stillrivereditions.com>
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>>     On May 4, 2016, at 3:34 PM, 'forums@...
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>>     EpsonWideFormat just migrated togroups.io <http://groups.io/>.
>>     The transition was quite seamless. It went live today.
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>>     I suggest that. The person who startedgroups.io
>>     <http://groups.io/>is the same person who started Yahoo groups.
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>>     best,
>>     Walker
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>>>     On May 4, 2016, at 3:28 PM,djon43@...
>>>     <mailto:djon43@...>[DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]
>>>     <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>>>     <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
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>>>     First, it's not a sure thing that Yahoo will abandon Groups or
>>>     Mail, but that does seem possible.
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>>>     Google Groups may be most similar to Yahoo Groups....but I
>>>     suspect that, with Google, Photos (including old ones/legacy)
>>>     wouldn't be integrated the way they are with our Yahoo
>>>     group...they would have to be moved/sent independently to Flickr...
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>>>     In any case our admin or someone else with access should try to
>>>     save current member contact list w/email to Excel or Google
>>>     version of Excel. That would enable restoring relations that
>>>     might otherwise be lost.
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>>>     We might instead consider a blog, perhaps viaWordpress.org
>>>     <http://wordpress.org/>(which might be free).
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Re: [Digital BW] Yahoo migration?

2016-05-05 by Paul Roark

That new groups.io system for the wide format forum does seem to have access to the archives.

I never understood how the companies that run these make any money from them. There does not seem to be enough (if any) advertising. While I appreciate that, failure to monetize ends up with the company simply failing -- which seems to be Yahoo's fate if they don't do something different.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com
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On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 1:21 AM, Ben Albu ben@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi Paul,

I didn't look at it thoroughly, but I guess migrating the archives of Yahoo groups would be possible. In fact it seems that is possible to migrate the whole Yahoo group.

Searchability won't be a problem. Take a look into this existing group: https://groups.io/g/EpsonWideFormat/messages?start=1:2016:-120

R,

Ben


On 4/05/2016 22:58, Paul Roark roark.paul@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] wrote:
Is there any way to preserve the archives and searchability of them? That is a resource and history that would be ashamed to lose.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Mark Savoia mark@stillrivereditions.com [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I can chime in as co-moderator of the EpsonWideFormat group (over 6500 members).


groups.io did a great job of the transition. Many new features that Yahoo just could never get right. I recommend.

Mark

On May 4, 2016, at 3:34 PM, 'forums@...' forums@walkerblackwell.com [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



EpsonWideFormat just migrated to groups.io. The transition was quite seamless. It went live today.

I suggest that. The person who started groups.io is the same person who started Yahoo groups.

best,
Walker

On May 4, 2016, at 3:28 PM, djon43@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


First, it's not a sure thing that Yahoo will abandon Groups or Mail, but that does seem possible.


Google Groups may be most similar to Yahoo Groups....but I suspect that, with Google, Photos (including old ones/legacy) wouldn't be integrated the way they are with our Yahoo group...they would have to be moved/sent independently to Flickr...


In any case our admin or someone else with access should try to save current member contact list w/email to Excel or Google version of Excel. That would enable restoring relations that might otherwise be lost.


We might instead consider a blog, perhaps via Wordpress.org (which might be free).













RE: [Digital BW] Yahoo migration?

2016-05-05 by Jim Bechtel

Yahoo’s situation is a bit unique and not really representative of this type business. They have had lousy leadership for years in that they stayed at a status quo and not moving to new segments.. Then comes Google and Facebook and their management just did not react properly at all. The only reason they’re still afloat is Alibaba. If it weren’t for that they would have died some time ago. It’s sad, I know , but their management and CEO really screwed up.. 

 

jimbo
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That new groups.io system for the wide format forum does seem to have access to the archives.  

 

I never understood how the companies that run these make any money from them.  There does not seem to be enough (if any) advertising.  While I appreciate that, failure to monetize ends up with the company simply failing -- which seems to be Yahoo's fate if they don't do something different.

 

Paul

www.PaulRoark.com 

 

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 1:21 AM, Ben Albu ben@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@...m> wrote:

  

Hi Paul,

I didn't look at it thoroughly, but I guess migrating the archives of Yahoo groups would be possible. In fact it seems that is possible to migrate the whole Yahoo group.

Searchability won't be a problem. Take a look into this existing group: https://groups.io/g/EpsonWideFormat/messages?start=1:2016:-120

R,

Ben

 

On 4/05/2016 22:58, Paul Roark roark.paul@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] wrote:

  

Is there any way to preserve the archives and searchability of them?  That is a resource and history that would be ashamed to lose.

 

Paul

www.PaulRoark.com 

 

On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Mark Savoia mark@stillrivereditions.com [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  

I can chime in as co-moderator of the EpsonWideFormat group (over 6500 members).

 

groups.io did a great job of the transition. Many new features that Yahoo just could never get right. I recommend.

 

Mark

stillrivereditions.com

 

On May 4, 2016, at 3:34 PM, 'forums@walkerblackwell.com' forums@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 



EpsonWideFormat just migrated to  <http://groups.io/> groups.io. The transition was quite seamless. It went live today. 

 

I suggest that. The person who started groups.io <http://groups.io/>  is the same person who started Yahoo groups.

 

best,

Walker

 

On May 4, 2016, at 3:28 PM, djon43@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

 

First, it's not a sure thing that Yahoo will abandon Groups or Mail, but that does seem possible.

 

Google Groups may be most similar to Yahoo Groups....but I suspect that, with Google, Photos (including old ones/legacy) wouldn't be integrated the way they are with our Yahoo group...they would have to be moved/sent independently to Flickr... 

 

In any case our admin or someone else with access should try to save current member contact list w/email to Excel or Google version of Excel.  That would enable restoring relations that might otherwise be lost.

 

We might instead consider a blog, perhaps via  <http://wordpress.org/> Wordpress.org (which might be free). 

 

 

 

 

 

 





 

 

 

 



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Re: Yahoo migration?

2016-05-07 by paulmwhiting@...

However this plays out, I would be glad to see a different venue for this important platform for some very valuable information. I find the Yahoo interface not as conducive as it could be, as it should be, for to the support and growth this exciting new medium needs. We are fortunate to have the contributions of some highly creative and generous pioneers here. But sometimes it's rather difficult to find the information a beginner like me needs and can't find.

I hope it's clear I'm not criticizing the knowledgeable people here - rather it's the medium and the tools we must work our way through to better out understanding of this pioneering new way of doing photography.

Paul W.

Re: Yahoo migration?

2016-05-08 by Michael-K

This location works fine for me; I've no complaints over it's functionality. I only get messages through a daily email digest and that works fine; I never access it through the web. Just my 2 cents.

Re: Yahoo migration?

2016-05-09 by bertgf@...

Another group of which I am a member has recently converted to Groups.io. It seems to be working fine. Just my 2 cents.

Re: Yahoo migration?

2016-07-16 by paulmwhiting@...

I just now joined groups.io and checked out the Epson wide format group. I have a 1400 and a 1430 so this group does not pertain to my setup - but I was curious about the format. At first glance it seems to be a lot more clearly laid out and easier to navigate.

Just a very preliminary impression....

Paul W.

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