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Troubleshooting Epson Artisan 1430 -- nozzle checks failing

2016-02-15 by rdeloe1@...

My Epson Artisan 1430 constantly fails the nozzle check. The best I've ever been able to manage is 1/2 a day with a clean check. I'm trying to decide if I should write this one off and buy a new one. However, I also don't want to be in the same boat with a new one.

If you're using it like I am (see below), can you give me some perspective?

I'm running Eboni inks from MIS. I started out with Paul Roark's Carbon 6 formulation, and am now using his Eboni Variable Tone formulation. I've had this problem from Day 1 (over a year ago), using both Eboni 1.0 and Eboni 1.1 inks. I'm very careful about mixing it, so I don't think I'm introducing a contaminant during ink preparation (e.g., dust or particles).

I started with refillable cartridges. I went through several sets from Inksupply; they never worked for me. Carts from Inkowl worked a bit better. I'm now using a Cobra CIS, which was working quite well... but now I'm back to "normal" (hard to get a clear nozzle check, and unable to keep it).

In another posting on this forum I explained how curled paper was a contributing factor. Sometimes paper that had a strong curl was whacking the bottom of the head, causing ink to splatter. I'm now using perfectly flat sheets and my nozzle check failure problem is still happening.

When I examine the nozzle check pattern, the problem moves around. It's not always the same colour (although Cyan and Magenta are particular problems). It's not always in the same spot in the same colour; the broken lines shift around in the pattern.

I've tried all the usual advice:
* I print regularly (at least every couple days).
* The head is aligned (I ran a test and did an alignment).
* I've cleaned the capping station, wiper blade, underside of the head, spikes, etc. using the procedure in the video on Inkjetmall's website.
* I rarely run head cleaning cycles. Occasionally I'll run one if it's really bad; it usually makes it worse. Instead, I use purge prints. I'll crank out 10 full page sheets at a time, sometimes all six colours, sometimes just the color that seems to be a problem. Sometimes after running purge prints it actually gets worse!
* Letting it sit overnight sometimes helps a bit, but it never lasts.

With these procedures I can get to a clean nozzle check... but not for long. After a couple prints, I'm back to failed nozzle checks.

It's quite possible that I damaged the print head in the early days of owning the machine, when I didn't have a clue. Maybe I cleaned too aggressively, or did something that caused permanent damage. If that's the case, I'm happy to replace the printer and be more careful... However, I'm worried that it's something inherent to this combination of printer and non-standard ink sets.

I'm hoping other people using the Epson 1430 (or 1500 in Australia?) with Eboni inks can share their experiences. If it's working great for you, then I can conclude that my printer is damaged and should be replaced.


RE: [Digital BW] Troubleshooting Epson Artisan 1430 -- nozzle checks failing

2016-02-15 by Thomas Maugham

I’m not using Eboni inks but have two 1430s. I’m using third-party dye inks in refillable carts and have few problems.

 

One of the 1430s was given to me after being in storage for two years without carts installed, a big no-no as whatever ink remained in the heads dried solid. I made cleaning carts using empty carts filled with a solution of 80% Windex with ammonia and 20% isopropyl alcohol. After inserting the carts in the printer I ran several cleaning cycles in order to get the cleaning solution into the heads. I also folded a paper towel to fit under the heads and saturated it with the same solution. I let it sit for several days then removed the paper towel and ran more cleaning cycles. After another 8-10 cleaning cycles I replaced the cleaning carts with refillable carts filled with ink and ran a few more cleaning cycles to get the ink into the heads. That procedure solved the problem and I now get perfect nozzle checks and great prints.

 

I’ve had the other 1430 since new and it occasionally gives me less than perfect nozzle checks but a cleaning cycle or two solves that problem.

 

I don’t know if this procedure will work for you but I wish you all the best…

 

Please don’t hesitate to ask questions…

 

Best,

Tom 
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Subject: [Digital BW] Troubleshooting Epson Artisan 1430 -- nozzle checks failing

 

  

My Epson Artisan 1430 constantly fails the nozzle check. The best I've ever been able to manage is 1/2 a day with a clean check. I'm trying to decide if I should write this one off and buy a new one. However, I also don't want to be in the same boat with a new one. 

If you're using it like I am (see below), can you give me some perspective?

I'm running Eboni inks from MIS. I started out with Paul Roark's Carbon 6 formulation, and am now using his Eboni Variable Tone formulation. I've had this problem from Day 1 (over a year ago), using both Eboni 1.0 and Eboni 1.1 inks. I'm very careful about mixing it, so I don't think I'm introducing a contaminant during ink preparation (e.g., dust or particles).

I started with refillable cartridges. I went through several sets from Inksupply; they never worked for me. Carts from Inkowl worked a bit better. I'm now using a Cobra CIS, which was working quite well... but now I'm back to "normal" (hard to get a clear nozzle check, and unable to keep it). 

In another posting on this forum I explained how curled paper was a contributing factor. Sometimes paper that had a strong curl was whacking the bottom of the head, causing ink to splatter. I'm now using perfectly flat sheets and my nozzle check failure problem is still happening. 

When I examine the nozzle check pattern, the problem moves around. It's not always the same colour (although Cyan and Magenta are particular problems). It's not always in the same spot in the same colour; the broken lines shift around in the pattern. 

I've tried all the usual advice:
* I print regularly (at least every couple days). 
* The head is aligned (I ran a test and did an alignment).
* I've cleaned the capping station, wiper blade, underside of the head, spikes, etc. using the procedure in the video on Inkjetmall's website. 
* I rarely run head cleaning cycles. Occasionally I'll run one if it's really bad; it usually makes it worse. Instead, I use purge prints. I'll crank out 10 full page sheets at a time, sometimes all six colours, sometimes just the color that seems to be a problem. Sometimes after running purge prints it actually gets worse!
* Letting it sit overnight sometimes helps a bit, but it never lasts.

With these procedures I can get to a clean nozzle check... but not for long. After a couple prints, I'm back to failed nozzle checks.

It's quite possible that I damaged the print head in the early days of owning the machine, when I didn't have a clue. Maybe I cleaned too aggressively, or did something that caused permanent damage. If that's the case, I'm happy to replace the printer and be more careful... However, I'm worried that it's something inherent to this combination of printer and non-standard ink sets. 

I'm hoping other people using the Epson 1430 (or 1500 in Australia?) with Eboni inks can share their experiences. If it's working great for you, then I can conclude that my printer is damaged and should be replaced.

Re: Troubleshooting Epson Artisan 1430 -- nozzle checks failing

2016-02-15 by rdeloe1@...

Tom, thanks for the speedy response. I tried cleaning carts a while ago, but you've motivated me to try it again. This time I'm going to be more patient and let the thing sit on the soaked pad with the carts for a day or so.

Can I ask, where did you get your formula for the cleaning solution? I've seen quite a few and am curious to know where you got yours. I've been using a 50/50 mixture of distilled water with Windex. I've also seen people mixing some ammonia with distilled water. Alcohol is a new one for me.

RE: [Digital BW] Re: Troubleshooting Epson Artisan 1430 -- nozzle checks failing

2016-02-15 by Thomas Maugham

YW…

 

I forgot that Eboni inks are pigment. That may be your main problem as I have been told that pigment inks don’t always work well in the 1430.

 

I forgot where I got the cleaning formula but I’ve been using that formula for quite some years in a variety of printers always with good success. It seems that the combination of alcohol and ammonia is the magic bullet. I remember that it was stressed to me that only the original formula of Windex should be used as it contains ammonia. Adding water to Windex only serves to weaken it, I’m not sure why you would want to do that but I certainly would not use ammonia or alcohol without some dilution. I don’t know what percentage of ammonia is in Windex but I think that the addition of 20% alcohol is fine, I haven’t seen any negative effects in many years of using it.

 

Good luck!!!!

 

Tom 
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Tom, thanks for the speedy response. I tried cleaning carts a while ago, but you've motivated me to try it again. This time I'm going to be more patient and let the thing sit on the soaked pad with the carts for a day or so.

Can I ask, where did you get your formula for the cleaning solution? I've seen quite a few and am curious to know where you got yours. I've been using a 50/50 mixture of distilled water with Windex. I've also seen people mixing some ammonia with distilled water. Alcohol is a new one for me.

Re: Troubleshooting Epson Artisan 1430 -- nozzle checks failing

2016-02-15 by paulmwhiting@...

This may not bear directly on your clogging issue, but you did mention trying different carts. I've been pretty lucky as far as clogging goes - I have both a 1400, set up with Paul's Eboni-6 inkset and a 1430 still on the OEM color carts. Both have nothing like the clog issues I had on my R1800.

The use of different sources of cartridges rang a bell for me... I had trouble with carts from various suppliers getting recognized and finally bought a set from Jon Cone. I felt a bit disloyal as he has another way of doing black and white as opposed to Paul Roark's. But apparently, I hope it's to safe to say they're "friendly rivals".

But Jon's carts work very well, and another thing I like about them is that they are manually resettable.

Back to the main issue... what I've learned is that works with clogs is time and patience. Sometimes it has worked for me just to apply whatever techniques and then let the printer sit overnight or a few days and let the solvent work at its own place. Easier said than done, I realize.

HTH,

Paul

Re: Troubleshooting Epson Artisan 1430 -- nozzle checks failing

2016-02-16 by jeff.grant@...

The 1430 is an odd beast. I bought one which I could not get to work reliably. I tried all sorts of carts but could not maintain a good nozzle check, mainly because a couple of the carts always leaked. In the end, I sold it.

A few months later, I tried again. I am using IJM and MIR (Australian) two part carts. This time, I have had none of the issues that I had with the first 1430.

Why one worked and the other didn't is a mystery which I will never solve but I am delighted that it is now working as it should.

RE: [Digital BW] Re: Troubleshooting Epson Artisan 1430 -- nozzle checks failing

2016-02-16 by Thomas Maugham

Please, what are two part carts?

 

Thanks,

Tom 
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The 1430 is an odd beast. I bought one which I could not get to work reliably. I tried all sorts of carts but could not maintain a good nozzle check, mainly because a couple of the carts always leaked. In the end, I sold it. 

 

A few months later, I tried again. I am using IJM and MIR (Australian) two part carts. This time, I have had none of the issues that I had with the first 1430.

 

Why one worked and the other didn't is a mystery which I will never solve but I am delighted that it is now working as it should.

RE: [Digital BW] Re: Troubleshooting Epson Artisan 1430 -- nozzle checks failing

2016-02-16 by jeff.grant@...

Sorry Tom, they are a cart that consist of an ink tank and a holder with the chip. One clips into the other. IJM calls them Easyfills. After all my issues with other carts, I thought that they were worth a try. The idea with them is that you can have multiple inksets with only one set of chips. They are supposed to be less fussy to load.

RE: [Digital BW] Re: Troubleshooting Epson Artisan 1430 -- nozzle checks failing

2016-02-16 by Thomas Maugham

Ah I see, very clever!   Thanks!!!!!

 

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Sorry Tom, they are a cart that consist of an ink tank and a holder with the chip. One clips into the other. IJM calls them Easyfills. After all my issues with other carts, I thought that they were worth a try. The idea with them is that you can have multiple inksets with only one set of chips. They are supposed to be less fussy to load.

Re: [Digital BW] Troubleshooting Epson Artisan 1430 -- nozzle checks failing

2016-02-16 by forums@walkerblackwell.com

They are indeed easy-to-fill ;)

We’ve been using them recently in our R&D  lab at IJM in a little 1430 printer working on a very new and exciting darkroom thing that I can’t talk about until we launch.

cheers,
Walker
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Re: Troubleshooting Epson Artisan 1430 -- nozzle checks failing

2016-02-16 by rdeloe1@...

Thanks to everyone who chipped in.

The weight of evidence started pointing to the printer being damaged (or perhaps flawed from Day 1). Therefore, I took a chance and bought a replacement. I'm very happy to report that I was right! I'll never know if the printer was defective from the outset, or if I damaged it during the lengthy process of trying to get my original set of bad carts -- and all their replacements -- to work. More than the money, I regret the huge amount of time I spent diagnosing, cleaning, testing, re-diagnosing, cleaning, testing... Live and learn...

I moved my CIS from the old printer to the new one and am making flawless prints. Well, the observer can decide if my photographs are flawless! ;) I just mean the prints coming off the printer are exactly as they should be -- no banding due to misfiring nozzles, no drips... so far... Fingers crossed that it stays like this.

Tom: you wondered (above) if it could be because I am using pigment inks. I really don't think that was the issue. Lots of people are using this printer with Eboni ink. There may be a long-term effect, but I haven't heard that either.

As an aside, if you're thinking of installing a CIS on an Epson 1430, I highly recommend the one from Cobra Inks. It's very well designed and put together; some of the ones you can buy seem to be little more than hoses jammed into bottles. This unit seems to have been built from parts that were purpose built to be a CIS. They even put the black tank on the outside of the set on the assumption that black ink will finish first; that was a thoughtful design decision. It works extremely well with the Eboni pigment ink I'm using. I especially like never having to pull the "cartridge" end out of the holders. There's one switch to reset all the chips at once. Once the ink button flashes because the printer thinks a cartridge is empty, you press and hold the button for 3 seconds -- and all cartridges are full again. Cobra has posted all their installation videos so you can see how the unit installs and works before buying. And no, I have no financial or other interest in this company.

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Troubleshooting Epson Artisan 1430 -- nozzle checks failing

2016-02-16 by Paul Roark

I'm relieved to hear it was the 1430 that was defective. The 1400 was a very reliable platform for Eboni-6 and its permutations. I used Eboni-6 (most often with generic base) for years with no problems.

The much greater risk is head strikes on curled or too thick paper.

With a CIS, be sure it is easy to agitate. Once you go to that, like external tanks on wide format printers, you'll want to agitate the pigments every once in a while (true with all pigments). I think Eb. v. 1.1 is probably good for a 2-week sit time without noticeable changes. I'm sure there are many who go much longer, but if you want your profiles to be precise, some agitation is wise.

Paul
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Thanks to everyone who chipped in.

The weight of evidence started pointing to the printer being damaged (or perhaps flawed from Day 1). Therefore, I took a chance and bought a replacement. I'm very happy to report that I was right! I'll never know if the printer was defective from the outset, or if I damaged it during the lengthy process of trying to get my original set of bad carts -- and all their replacements -- to work. More than the money, I regret the huge amount of time I spent diagnosing, cleaning, testing, re-diagnosing, cleaning, testing... Live and learn...

I moved my CIS from the old printer to the new one and am making flawless prints. Well, the observer can decide if my photographs are flawless! ;) I just mean the prints coming off the printer are exactly as they should be -- no banding due to misfiring nozzles, no drips... so far... Fingers crossed that it stays like this.

Tom: you wondered (above) if it could be because I am using pigment inks. I really don't think that was the issue. Lots of people are using this printer with Eboni ink. There may be a long-term effect, but I haven't heard that either.

As an aside, if you're thinking of installing a CIS on an Epson 1430, I highly recommend the one from Cobra Inks. It's very well designed and put together; some of the ones you can buy seem to be little more than hoses jammed into bottles. This unit seems to have been built from parts that were purpose built to be a CIS. They even put the black tank on the outside of the set on the assumption that black ink will finish first; that was a thoughtful design decision. It works extremely well with the Eboni pigment ink I'm using. I especially like never having to pull the "cartridge" end out of the holders. There's one switch to reset all the chips at once. Once the ink button flashes because the printer thinks a cartridge is empty, you press and hold the button for 3 seconds -- and all cartridges are full again. Cobra has posted all their installation videos so you can see how the unit installs and works before buying. And no, I have no financial or other interest in this company.


Re: Troubleshooting Epson Artisan 1430 -- nozzle checks failing

2016-02-16 by rdeloe1@...

Thanks for the tips Paul. This particular CIS is designed for easy agitation. It hangs on the side with velcro, so agitation involves taking it off, tilting it a bit back and forth and re-mounting.

The curled paper issue is a serious problem. It's a tricky thing. The 325 gsm PA Smooth Fine Art is thicker than Epson technically allows, but it's perfectly flat. The thinner PA Fine Art 205 gsm is well within spec, but it has a bit of a curl. The PA Smooth Bright White 200 gsm I have (in 8.5 x 11 at least) is horrendously curled. Premier Art says it's not supposed to be... but there you go. I've been hand smoothing each sheet to get it flat!

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Troubleshooting Epson Artisan 1430 -- nozzle checks failing

2016-02-17 by Paul Roark

I had trouble only with the Bright White version also. The 325 non OBA paper is among my favorites - never a problem.

Paul
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Thanks for the tips Paul. This particular CIS is designed for easy agitation. It hangs on the side with velcro, so agitation involves taking it off, tilting it a bit back and forth and re-mounting.

The curled paper issue is a serious problem. It's a tricky thing. The 325 gsm PA Smooth Fine Art is thicker than Epson technically allows, but it's perfectly flat. The thinner PA Fine Art 205 gsm is well within spec, but it has a bit of a curl. The PA Smooth Bright White 200 gsm I have (in 8.5 x 11 at least) is horrendously curled. Premier Art says it's not supposed to be... but there you go. I've been hand smoothing each sheet to get it flat!


RE: [Digital BW] Re: Troubleshooting Epson Artisan 1430 -- nozzle checks failing

2016-02-19 by Thomas Maugham

Paul, I’m just using refillable carts from China purchased on eBay. I bought them full with ink and when that Ink ran out I refilled them with third-party inks purchased by the pint. I use 10cc syringes with blunt needles. I have two 1430s and they both work fine with the third-party inks and inexpensive carts. 

 

HTH,

Tom 
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@jeffgrantou
@Thomas Maugham

I've got a 1430 still on its OEM inks, but was considering this setup when my carts run out:

http://shop.inkjetmall.com/EasyFill-keys-for-Photo-R1400-R1430.html

Is this what you're using, Thomas?

Thanks!

Paul

RE: [Digital BW] Re: Troubleshooting Epson Artisan 1430 -- nozzle checks failing

2016-02-19 by paulmwhiting@...

Thanks, Tom, that is helpful. But I made a mistake in my message... I was intending to ask Jeff!

You and Jeff had an exchange of messages a while back, that's why I mentioned both of you. But here's part of what Jeff said in one of his posts: "One clips into the other. IJM calls them Easyfills." I'm quite sure when he says IJM he's talking about InkJetMall and that's where my link comes from.

No offense to you, it was helpful to know your procedure also!

Regards,

Paul

RE: [Digital BW] Re: Troubleshooting Epson Artisan 1430 -- nozzle checks failing

2016-02-19 by Thomas Maugham

Paul, always glad to help. I looked at these IJM carts (yes, IJM is Inkjet Mall) and don’t see any real benefit to them as the refillable carts that I use work just fine. In addition I keep a spare set so if anything happens, a chip fails for example, I just replace the cart with the correct spare and I’m back in business.

 

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Tom 
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Thanks, Tom, that is helpful. But I made a mistake in my message... I was intending to ask Jeff!

You and Jeff had an exchange of messages a while back, that's why I mentioned both of you. But here's part of what Jeff said in one of his posts: "One clips into the other. IJM calls them Easyfills."  I'm quite sure when he says IJM he's talking about InkJetMall and that's where my link comes from.

No offense to you, it was helpful to know your procedure also!

Regards,

Paul

RE: [Digital BW] Re: Troubleshooting Epson Artisan 1430 -- nozzle checks failing

2016-02-19 by paulmwhiting@...

Tom,

Actually I'm quite familiar with filling refillable carts but it's always been black or various dilutions of black for a couple of inksets in Epson printers. It's been fairly easy mainly because I use only one syringe, rinsing it thoroughly between carts. Do you use a separate syringe for each color? The Easy-Fill technique looks even easier, if I understand correctly you can buy the ink in disposable plastic sacks that fit into the shell - the shell contains the chip. Might be more expensive per fill however.

Perhaps Jeff will chime in here. To each his own, I guess!

Best regards,

Paul

RE: [Digital BW] Re: Troubleshooting Epson Artisan 1430 -- nozzle checks failing

2016-02-19 by Thomas Maugham

Paul,

 

I’m always fearful of contaminating a cart so I use a dedicated syringe and needle for each color. I’ve been doing this for quite a few years now and have it down to an absolute science. I keep the inks and syringes next to the printer and can remove a cart, fill it and replace it almost as quickly as just switching carts.

 

But as you say to each his own and the best solution is the one that works the best for you!!!!!

 

Tom 
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Tom,

Actually I'm quite familiar with filling refillable carts but it's always been black or various dilutions of black for a couple of inksets in Epson printers. It's been fairly easy mainly because I use only one syringe, rinsing it thoroughly between carts. Do you use a separate syringe for each color? The Easy-Fill technique looks even easier, if I understand correctly you can buy the ink in disposable plastic sacks that fit into the shell - the shell contains the chip. Might be more expensive per fill however.

Perhaps Jeff will chime in here. To each his own, I guess!

Best regards,

Paul

RE: [Digital BW] Re: Troubleshooting Epson Artisan 1430 -- nozzle checks failing

2016-02-19 by Thomas Maugham

BTW, using the third-party inks and refillable carts I figure that my cost-per-refill is in the neighborhood of five cents a cart. That’s a lot better than paying about $20 for an Ep$on cart!!!!!!  And yes, I have compared identical prints from Ep$on carts and my refills and the colors are indeed identical. I don’t know about longevity but after all they are dye inks…

 

Tom 
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Tom,

Actually I'm quite familiar with filling refillable carts but it's always been black or various dilutions of black for a couple of inksets in Epson printers. It's been fairly easy mainly because I use only one syringe, rinsing it thoroughly between carts. Do you use a separate syringe for each color? The Easy-Fill technique looks even easier, if I understand correctly you can buy the ink in disposable plastic sacks that fit into the shell - the shell contains the chip. Might be more expensive per fill however.

Perhaps Jeff will chime in here. To each his own, I guess!

Best regards,

Paul

RE: [Digital BW] Re: Troubleshooting Epson Artisan 1430 -- nozzle checks failing

2016-02-19 by Thomas Maugham

Same here…  yes, I am always fearful of contaminating my colors so I use a dedicated syringe and needle for each color.

 

Best regards,

Tom 
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I don't doubt your numbers at all Tom! And I haven't done the figuring but I'm my monochrome inksets are comparable. In fact, the main cost of a framed and matted print is the frame, glass, and mattboard. The paper and ink are minimal!

BTW, do you use separate syringes for each color?

Best Regards,

Paul

RE: [Digital BW] Re: Troubleshooting Epson Artisan 1430 -- nozzle checks failing

2016-02-19 by Thomas Maugham

That’s okay, happens to me all the time!!!!!!!
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Sorry Tom, I made you repeat the answer re: different syringes for each color! Got a little mixed up reading the thread.

Paul

RE: [Digital BW] Re: Troubleshooting Epson Artisan 1430 -- nozzle checks failing

2016-02-19 by jeff.grant@...

Sorry folks for the tardy reply. That link to the Inkjetmall carts is right. I understand that they sell some colour refills but I only use Piezography inks. I use both those and MIR ones. With the first 1430, I tried, and had issues with all sorts of normal carts so thought that I would give them a try on the second. I have no idea whether one is better than the other. They work well for me so I immediately lose interest in further research.

On the subject of filling carts, I have a strong dislike for syringes. I hate cleaning and drying them, and all the attendant issues. A bit of research led me to this: http://www.octoink.co.uk/pages/SquEasyFill.html To my simple mind, these are brilliant. I am clumsy on a good day, having knocked over bottles while refilling and then having to clean up the mess. With these, you fill the bottles infrequently.

Re: [Digital BW] Troubleshooting Epson Artisan 1430 -- nozzle checks failing

2016-02-19 by forums@walkerblackwell.com

I was in-lab with Jon the other day and he somewhat jokingly showed me how he fills the EasyFills with the vapor-nib that is in each InkjetMall ink bottle. They fit into the mycapsule inlet perfectly. No needle needed. I still do the traditional needle but hey, it seems to work just from the IJM bottles now. I guess I'll convert to his new way shortly.

ps: We are in the process of testing CIS for the 1430. Resetting these EasyFills all the time can be distracting to long extended print-sessions. (Something we are doing a lot in the new platinum darkroom.) Will post once we know it’s a totally solid and dependable product.

regards,
Walker
R&D & IJM
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Re: Troubleshooting Epson Artisan 1430 -- nozzle checks failing

2016-02-20 by jeff.grant@...

Sorry Paul, two many TLAs. MIR is an Australian outfit:
Order Refillable Ink Cartridges and CISS Ink Systems At Low Prices

I like to buy locally if I can. Nothing beats being able to eyeball someone if you have an issue. I have bought two part carts from them. I only use IJM inks not theirs.

Re: Troubleshooting Epson Artisan 1430 -- nozzle checks failing

2016-02-20 by paulmwhiting@...

Jeff,

Gotcha... MIR seems like a good outfit, I'll study their offerings and keep them in mind. (I have a nephew in Brisbane.. but I don't think he's into serious printing. Works for the Nature Conservancy.)

But - ok - the saga continues. What's TLA? !! Help!

Cheers,

Paul

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Troubleshooting Epson Artisan 1430 -- nozzle checks failing

2016-02-20 by Un Globe Trotteur

I am going to chime in on this one. I use a 2200 and before I had a R220. I always used a CIS with these. I did try refillable cartridges once with my 2200 but it was messy mostly because I am clumsy. The only problem i was concerned about was the seal. I have a feeling that pulling the cartridge out of the printer many times for refilling will deteriorate the seal and the ink may leak.
Because i use a CIS, i never take the cartridges out. I have been using the same company for years. www.superjetusa.com

Pierre-Olivier
http://www.depthoffieldphotography.com
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On 2/19/2016 5:35 PM, jeff.grant@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] wrote:

Sorry folks for the tardy reply. That link to the Inkjetmall carts is right. I understand that they sell some colour refills but I only use Piezography inks. I use both those and MIR ones. With the first 1430, I tried, and had issues with all sorts of normal carts so thought that I would give them a try on the second. I have no idea whether one is better than the other. They work well for me so I immediately lose interest in further research.


On the subject of filling carts, I have a strong dislike for syringes. I hate cleaning and drying them, and all the attendant issues. A bit of research led me to this: http://www.octoink.co.uk/pages/SquEasyFill.html To my simple mind, these are brilliant. I am clumsy on a good day, having knocked over bottles while refilling and then having to clean up the mess. With these, you fill the bottles infrequently.

Re: Troubleshooting Epson Artisan 1430 -- nozzle checks failing

2016-02-20 by ascherjim@...

On the basis of Jeff's advice and experience --

"On the subject of filling carts, I have a strong dislike for syringes. I hate cleaning and drying them, and all the attendant issues. A bit of research led me to this: http://www.octoink.co.uk/pages/SquEasyFill.html http://www.octoink.co.uk/pages/SquEasyFill.html To my simple mind, these are brilliant. I am clumsy on a good day, having knocked over bottles while refilling and then having to clean up the mess. With these, you fill the bottles infrequently."
  
                  
 
     
 
         
 
                                      -- I have ordered myself a set of six for my Epson 1400 and 1430.  As they are surprisingly inexpensive, I don't think I'd be out much if they shouldn't prove workable.  However I don't see why they wouldn't fill my needs perfectly, as my present practice is with rotating one syringe among my separate dilutions of MIS Eboni inks (which I actually dilute myself starting with the basic black) using Paul Roark's formulas.

Re: Troubleshooting Epson Artisan 1430 -- nozzle checks failing

2016-02-21 by brian_downunda@...

A CIS is certainly convenient, especially if you would otherwise need to refill often. I have one for my Piezo R1900, but ... I've never used it. One thing that concerns me is pigment sedimentation. This is an issue with the printers with ink lines and dampers, and the fact that a carts-on-head printer self-agitates is one of the advantages. Once you've put in a CIS, you may as well get a printer with ink lines and dampers, as the routine to prevent sedimentation is much the same. I guess the seals are a potential issue if you refill a lot, but not one that I've encountered myself.

The main reasons why I've never used my CIS is that it would stop me from easily switching inksets, and from putting in flush carts and hibernating the printer for periods of printing inactivity. Since the arrival of the SquEasyFill bottles that Jeff mentioned, refilling has become so fast and easy that it's mostly a non-issue. I also like being able to reset all the chips at refill time, whereas with the one CIS that I've used (also for a 2100) did a sequence of auto-resets as each channel separately empties, so you always seem to be flushing ink down the tubes.

You pays your money and you takes your choices.


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I always used a CIS with these. I did try refillable cartridges once with my 2200 but it was messy mostly because I am clumsy. The only problem I was concerned about was the seal. I have a feeling that pulling the cartridge out of the printer many times for refilling will deteriorate the seal and the ink may leak.

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