Digital BW, The Print

Bruce,

What I said was totally out of line - please accept my apologies. I wish I had restrained myself.

On to the substantive matters. Clearly you admire Tyler's print making skills from first hand experience. I have not seen any prints made by Tyler, but have no reason to doubt that he posseses highly refined skills. That is one of the points I have been trying to make. He makes K6/7 or whatever he uses sing a sweet song. Others have made ABW sing with as much impact, and so with BO, with the many MIS inks. Yet all of these technologies have poor practioners too. Technology does not trump skills. Technology does make better prints, printers make better prints.

This time, respectfully,

Shilesh

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Watson <bwyg@...> wrote:
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> shileshjani wrote:
> > Bruce,
> >
> > I ask this respectfully: Are you going to participate meaningfully in this rather interesting discussion, and do some bruising of your own? Or act as a cheerleader on the sidelines, and not risk getting bruised? If letter, let see you donned in a short skirt, waving pomppoms, please.
> >
> > Shilesh
> >   
> 
> Doesn't seem terribly respectful, but that's OK.
> 
> I know enough to know that I'm not at Tyler's level. I'm certainly not 
> at Jon's level. I don't have the resources or the time, or quite 
> frankly, the talent.
> 
> But that doesn't mean that I don't recognize it in them. I had the great 
> good fortune of spending a few hours with Mr. Boley last summer. He 
> showed me a number of prints. I was just amazed. I've never seen B&W 
> prints like that. Over the years I've held quite a few prints in my 
> hands to see them without glass -- old masters like Adams and Weston, 
> current masters too many to mention. Something to shoot for in my own 
> prints even if I'll never get close. But I've never seen any as 
> beautiful as Tyler's. I don't have the vocabulary to describe it. He's 
> able to make the print subservient to the image, yet support the image 
> in a way that makes it just shine. But in the way that individual image 
> needs to shine. It'll grab your attention from across the room, yet 
> whisper in your ear at the same time. Incredible.
> 
> So am I going to enter the discussion? Probably not. I don't have 
> anything to say that Tyler and Jon can't say better than I can, and with 
> more authority. I've got plenty of bruises already -- I was one of the 
> first people to get Piezotones running on a 7600, using StudioPrint. I'm 
> just sayin' that bruising is not an issue, and that I know where these 
> guys are coming from, and what they are trying to do. I'll always 
> support people trying to push and extend in a fight for excellence. 
> Those are the people from whom we get progress.
> 
> You don't like it? Too bad. Find a way to adjust.
> --
> Bruce Watson
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