Digital BW, The Print

Thanks Eric for reminding me...I use an OTT-LITE which has a 5000-5500K rating (not calibrated) for my evaluations but also look at my test & prints in shade daylight and tungsten.  Most of my prints are then under glass in fairly well lighted galleries or art exhibits.

Thanks, Terry

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "E.Neilsen" <e.neilsen2@...> wrote:
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> Terry, Forgive me if I restate something here, but the viewing light is
> going to make a difference to the absolute look of the image and that is
> something that may not be under your control throughout the life of the
> print. Measuring and looking might start to get conflicting inner thoughts
> going. Do you have a measure light source to view your images under?  The
> digital standard 5000K light boxes can assist one in getting a base line for
> some printing and viewing standards, but there is also the reality of home
> light situations and again personal preference. I go by the thinking that
> give you print as much black as the substrate can handle without bleed, and
> maintain a good slope your images should look good in nearly any reasonable
> light.    You can even set your own standard if you tell buyers, if that is
> your aim, that your images look best at this amount and type of
> illumination. If the Terry standard is within reason of normal lighting,
> that should not be a problem. The plotting and control will then give you
> the means to make the Terry look. It sounds like you have the tools to make
> it happen.  
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> Eric Neilsen
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> Eric Neilsen Photography
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> 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
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> Dallas, TX 75226
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> www.ericneilsenphotography.com
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> skype me with ejprinter
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> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Terry
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:14 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Maximum Usable Black vs. Dmax - What's the Big
> Deal?
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> Eric,
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> I'm using an X-Rite 810. I just created two QTR profiles with PK ink at 60%
> & Black Boost at 70% and another profile at 60% again and Black Boost at
> 90%. No excessive ink and the steps look "uniform" in both cases due to
> "shaping the curve" with a Gamma of 2.6.
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> Visually the 21st Step after of the 70% & 90% black look the same but
> measure 2.24 & 2.40. (As expected)
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> Will it make a difference in an actual print?...will need to try some
> prints.
> 
> Terry
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> --- In DigitalBlackandWhit
> <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
> eThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "E.Neilsen" <e.neilsen2@> wrote:
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> > If you're building density all the way up to 100% that is something I
> > haven't done either. However, one issue with Epson printers/drivers is
> that
> > they do tend to block up. Perhaps they have lowered the density in this
> set.
> > Shilesh is asking the right question here. 
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> > What type of densitometer are you using? 
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> > Eric Neilsen
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> > Eric Neilsen Photography
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> > 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
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> > Dallas, TX 75226
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> > www.ericneilsenphotography.com
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> > skype me with ejprinter
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> > From: DigitalBlackandWhit
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> eThePrint@yahoogroups.com
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> eThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > shileshjani
> > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 11:55 PM
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhit
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> eThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Maximum Usable Black vs. Dmax - What's the Big
> > Deal?
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> > Terry,
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> > Your readings that 100% patch has highest measured density is unusual. I
> > don't have any experience with your inkset, so that may be it. Another
> quick
> > check worth considering. Are you printing the QTR calibration chart at
> 100%
> > ink limits?
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> > Shilesh
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