Walt, The Harman gloss is more than I would prefer and with larger sheets, the relatively low basis weight makes it sensitive to kinking. I've had no QC problems with the Ilford Gold Silk in both sheets and rolls. Both bronzing and GD are definite problems with the Ilford and K3 inks, but with Paul's new 3MK-PK workflow neither are a problem for B&W printing. Carl On Feb 13, 2008, at 12:52 PM, wwodets wrote: > Carl and Gabriel- > > Carl, > > What is it you didn't like about the Harman? With the Ilford I found > such bad quality control (mostly surface scratching) that I gave up > on it. I liked the surface though, because it is smooth and not at > all glossy. On the other hand, the gloss differential in highlights > was quite obvious because the k3 inks are quite glossy. The gloss > differential with the Harman is minimal. > > Gabriel, > > I am still awaiting my first box of 17 x 25, and I'm not likely to > print larger than that. I was not aware it was available in rolls, > but I imagine it would be a curling problem. It has very much the > stiffness of a gelatin paper. > > Walt > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Gabriel Valansi > <gvalansi@...> wrote: >> >> Hey Walt: did you try to print B/W on the Harman in big sizes > (beyond >> 17x22�)? IT is available in rolls? >> >> >> >> El 12/2/08 18:56, "wwodets" <odets@...> escribi�: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Gabriel- >>> >>> I'm with you on the HM Baryta. The whole surface glitters and > sparkles >>> under the light, and is particularly bad in high density areas. > These >>> look like someone sprayed black vinyl onto the paper. I can't >>> understand why they did this. The Epson EFB has some of this, > but much >>> less and is acceptable to me, though not my favorite. The Harman >>> surface (with K3 inks) is a bit glossier than I'd like but the > surface >>> is very natural and convincing and the inks are beautiful on it. > No >>> glitter at all and not quite a glossy "air-dried," but something > very >>> good, convincing and honest in itself. It shows a photograph >>> beautifully. >>> >>> Walt >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you > wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by > visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages > to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed > from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules > and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the > group Owner and Moderators. See �Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines� > in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE > �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL > NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER > INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL > BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF > SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE > THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO > OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR > CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO > GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Epson Exhibition Fiber - A Review
2008-02-13 by Carl Schofield
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