Digital BW, The Print

Hi, CD....

Will the tweaking to get neutral B&W tones effect the color 
prints...if so, how and what to look for?

Also, could you better explain (at least for me) what you are talking 
about in the quote below and what the levers are:

"...gray ramp following paper white down very evenly (consistant 
addition of the paper white color element all the way down the gray 
ramp); thats what some users would want.  Asking it to make grays 
that don't include the paper component as they move farther from 
white, as you've done here, creates a very even ramp from paper white 
down to neutral near black, with the paper white tint dropping off 
slowly. This is what other users might want. Still other users would 
want it neutral from the top, but that would require using neutral 
paper..."


Thanks....JOHN

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, CDTobie@... 
wrote:
>
> 
> In a message dated 6/7/07 6:20:33 PM, michele@... writes:
> 
> 
> > Here you go the best I achieved trying tuning the varios settings 
in
> > PFP (pushed greens to +3):
> > 
> > L    a    b
> > 97.49    1.56    -0.47
> > 93.81    1.3    -0.01
> > 90.24    1.4    -0.4
> > 86.58    1.38    0.39
> > 82.88    1.31    -0.29
> > 79.4    1.12    -0.52
> > 75.73    0.27    -0.62
> > 71.43    1.09    -0.49
> > 67.53    1.1    -0.1
> > 63.86    0.63    0.03
> > 59.51    0.71    0.7
> > 54.54    1.01    0.38
> > 49.58    0.53    -0.01
> > 44.29    0.09    0.36
> > 39.37    0.24    0.3
> > 34.02    0.08    1.11
> > 27.66    -0.49    1.61
> > 20.79    -0.56    1.5
> > 14.44    -0.64    1.28
> > 8.13    -0.5    0.84
> > 7.26    0.3    1.83
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> What you were seeing last post was the gray ramp following paper 
white down 
> very evenly (consistant addition of the paper white color element 
all the way 
> down the gray ramp); thats what some users would want. Asking it to 
make grays 
> that don't include the paper component as they move farther from 
white, as 
> you've done here, creates a very even ramp from paper white down to 
neutral near 
> black, with the paper white tint dropping off slowly. This is what 
other users 
> might want. Still other users would want it neutral from the top, 
but that 
> would require using neutral paper... <G>
> 
> Every time I make recommendations that add to the d-max of users 
prints, they 
> want even more. I'd suggest using a different paper for two reasons 
then; to 
> get rid of the paper tone, and to find one with a bit more d-max, 
though I'm 
> sure you would then want a bit more d-max on that paper as well. <G>
> 
> C. David Tobie
> Product Technology Manager
> ColorVision Business Division
> DataColor Inc.
> CDTobie@...
> www.colorvision.com
> 
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