Digital BW, The Print

"I liked the Kayenta and Entrada papers very much after
switching to the Hahnemuehle profiles (the moab ones were awful) . . . . "

That's interesting. I've been using Moab Entrada Fine Art Natural as my 
principal paper for color and b&w for about two years. I use the Moab 
profile for it and everything was fine until the last batch of papers I 
bought. For some reason my prints no longer match the monitor display 
(monitor calibrated with Spyer II, printer Epson 2200, UC inks for color and 
b&w with QTR). I also am having trouble getting my printer to feed this 
batch of papers from the top, I have to manually feed from the back a single 
sheet at a time. I've been wondering whether Moab perhaps made some change 
to the Entrada papers because until this batch, received about a month ago, 
after calibrating with Spyder II I always got a very good match between the 
print and the monitor.

Where did you find the Hahnemuehle profiles?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "mmrroott" <mike.rott@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 12:46 PM
Subject: [SPAM:*] [Digital BW] Moab papers


Last week, I took the main advice from this group and replaced my
broken 1280 with UT2 inks with a new R2400 and ordered the MIS K4+
inks as well. This is quite a change from my old system, so I spent
a fair amount of time going through the archives and trying to get
myself up to date, downloading profiles etc and getting familiar
with this machine. One thing I discovered is that EEM (my standard
paper) is not longer well regarded. Also, I was interested in a
satin-semi-gloss type paper in addition to matte. So, I headed out
to my local store to see what they had, and came
back with 2 sample packs, one from Hahnemuhe and the other from
Moab. First thing I checked were the non-matte papers and color ink
(I am waiting for the K4+ inks before getting too involved with the
BW prints). In particular I was excited to try the H. Pearl but
there was also the Kokopelli gloss, semi-gloss and satin to try. I
must be missing something, because I found the Pearl to be the worst
of the bunch. Yes, it has a nice feel (the back side anyway,the
print side is odd feeling), the blacks aren't nearly as good as the
others (or photo rag for that matter), the colors looked grainy in
the shadows (non-smooth) and it has the most annoying sheen to it,
that unless you are looking at it straight on, and even then it
isn't perfect, is very distracting. What is all the fuss about with
this paper? The satin, I thought i could live with and might make
this my non-matte paper choice. I havn't gone through all the matte
papers. I tried HPR, Very nice paper! If it wasn't for the price, I
would probably use it. I think that goes for most of the Hahnemuehle
papers. I liked the Kayenta and Entrada papers very much after
switching to the Hahnemuehle profiles (the moab ones were awful), in
particular the different weights and bright and natural versions of
the Entrada gives a lot of flexibility. For the price the Kayenta
seems great especially considering it is double sided which makes it
great for proofing. I did also play a bit with the Epson
ABW and QTR and found the QTR gave a much smoother print,
particularly in the gradation in the sky which was very grainy with
ABW. So, after all that, today I find this:

http://www.legionpaper.com/pub/files/legionacquiresmoab.pdf

Looks like Legion has just bought out moab. Any speculation on what
this might mean for Moab papers?




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