john dean wrote: > Thank you for that informed dose of reality Roy. > > As for noise in the extremes of scans, I see far less of it in drum > scans than any digital capture I've worked with. > > But really, I think the reason that this discussion has reared its > ugly head again is that Cannon is suggesting that with their new > machines that 16 bit is desireable and perceiveable. Othewise why send > it over there. ( I wouldn't anymore than I would output 2880 with > matte paper). We were wondering if there WAS any advantage or whether > it is just marketing talk. I belive you've answered the question. > > John The Canons send 10 or 12 bit to the printer. On 11 ink channels. So not 2x but at most 1.5x 8 bit at the end of the process. You will need a very good paper to get it visible I think. Most will praise the more saturated RGB areas though which has little to do with 8 or 16 bit. In B&W it is already difficult to get the 256 shades correctly separated on a good paper. On mat papers I don't get 256 shades right now with my Epson 9000 quad. Of course newer models will do that much better, 11 versus 3.5 picoliter. There have been related discussions before. If you use 4 grey inks on 4 channels with 2-3 droplet sizes and implant the right dithering/weaving (16 and 8 bit quality is mentioned for that too) for that setup I still think that can be equal or better than having 7 channels with 7 quad inks and just one droplet size used on a printer. A printer that has the dithering and weaving intended for 5 hue and 2 monochrome inks. I know it works well but I find it premature to say that that will still be better than what the three manufacturers bring to the market right now. The hardware is probably not the limiting factor in the new models, we have to find the right modifications to the software I guess. Met vriendelijke groeten, Ernst | Dinkla Grafische Techniek | | www.pigment-print.com | | ( unvollendet ) |
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: the times, they aren't a-changing-so can we start over again?
2006-11-14 by Ernst Dinkla
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