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[Digital BW] Re: A Quick look at Silver Rag . . .

2006-07-04 by john dean

I appologize Walt. You guys are right.I was wrong.

It has been awhile since I did these tests and I don't do black and
white on this paper on a regular basis. I went back and looked at my
8x10 prints done on the 2400 with PK. If you hold these prints at just
the right sharp angle you do see some gloss differential. The optical
effects on the Epson rc papers are far more distracting and coarse though.

I used sheet media for SR and it was completely flat and that was hard
to see, but if the print was not flat it would be more apparent for
sure. The same situation applies to the color prints. When I use this
media I spray it anyway but a lot of people are totally against toxic
sprays and I agree it is disgusting to deal with. 

So it is there. However when sprayed with Premier Art it does
disappear. Since I like my carbon monochome prints done on fine matte
rag papers I'm not that involved with glossy output, and what a dmax
reads on a densitometer is not a real concern for me.

I believe it is also true that these rag glossy papers are in their
infancy and will improve a lot. I think we all agree on that.

John

 




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> Ahem... on the basis of various posts about Sliver Rag, I bought a  
> box, made one print (on a 2400 w/K3) and... rather obvious gloss  
> differential. Yes, it's less pronounced than on other gloss papers  
> I've tried, but it's most definitely there. If you don't mind it,  
> that's fine, but I don't like prints that produce distracting optical  
> effects unless viewed in a certain, optimal way. Another problem (for  
> me) is that the surface is very sparkly when viewed in direct light  
> (e.g. a gallery spot) at certain angles.
> 
> I'm not trying to make my prints look as though they're traditional  
> silver gelatin... I just don't want odd visual quirks causing people  
> to think more about the printing process than about the image. It's  
> otherwise a really good paper (the blacks are great), but I'm going  
> to keep waiting for better gloss coatings (and using matte papers)  
> for now.
> 
> Harry
> 
> On Jul 3, 2006, at 6:16 PM, john dean wrote:
> 
> > -No, No, No, Walt. You can't use MK. It is designed for PK only.
> >
> > It works great with K3, no gloss differential really and no bronzing.
> > I actually use it wit K2 and it also looks great. I put a light coat
> > of Premier Art on it with K2 but not really necessary with K3. My
> > tests on the 2400 right out of the box with ABW mode were excellent,
> > awesome dmax for mono and color. A big difference from Premium Luster
> > relief look with any Ultrachrome for instance.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
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