Digital BW, The Print

"I think you are taking my reply out of context."

HI Peter - Sorry, I didn't intend to be argumentative, I really was just 
wondering whether you throught digital would produce superior prints from 
all film sizes at all print sizes or whether there was a point at which some 
films would do better. I missed portions of the thread and didn't realize 
that everything you said was in the context of only 35mm film.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Marshall" <petermarshall@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Scanning 35mm vs digital camera


> Brian,
>
> I think you are taking my reply out of context. I think it was to
> someone who was considering 35mm film, not large format, and I think it
> is true for most prints from 35mm film. From film - mainly ISO400 for
> the kind of photojournalistic work I mainly do - I was getting good
> prints either direct or from scans up to around 12x8" or slightly
> larger, but above that I could see a loss in quality. Of course I did
> sometimes make larger prints - 24x20" and even on occasion A1 and
> larger, but the grain and loss of sharpness are apparent, though a slow
> film like Tech Pan (sadly no longer) did pretty well. Some of them are
> pretty good prints, either because or in spite of the grain.1
>
> With digital, working from 6Mp, my basic print size without seeing any
> real quality loss went up from 13x9 to 15x10 inches. You have much lower
> noise with digital, but you don't get any more detail. With the D200 I
> hope to push it a little further - really to anything I can print on
> A3+, which is the largest my ink jet printer takes..
>
> When I've worked with 4x5 (or even 6x7 - or 8x10 come to that), then
> I've printed at 20x16 or 24x20, and larger sizes would be possible. In
> fact the only 4x5 work I've had a part in over recent years has been
> scans for repro on A4 covers. I've done these with good results on a
> 1200 dpi flatbed, and I don't think the printed results would have been
> any better at a higher res.
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter Marshall
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