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[Digital BW] Re: Printing On Gloss...Possible with Digital B&W?

2006-01-22 by Steven Karafyllakis

Matte paper might well be reflectionless held in your hand, with no 
glass-but if you put a silver gel print, a semi-matte inkjet print 
and a matte inkjet print under glass and hang them on the wall, they 
all become equally reflective, since you are now looking at the 
reflections of the glass. The factors that do not get equalized are 
the more important ones-the tonal range and dmax of the FB print, 
the better dmax and shadow detail retention of the semi-matte 
inkjet. So I for one (since we seem to be conducting another 
impromptu poll) am not ready to write of the FB look and advantages. 
I've said it before, I'll say it again: I want it all.

 my 2c worth

Steven Karafyllakis

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Shilesh Jani" 
<shileshjani@b...> wrote:
>
> Hear, hear. Now let us (Epson, or anyone else for that matter)find 
a 
> the K ink which gives us Dmax in the 2 range on matte papers.
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton 
Jones" 
> <cj@c...> wrote:
> >
> > Paul,
> > 
> > >...they may have a paper that comes close to the fabled silver 
> print, 
> > >but after getting used to matte papers, I'm not sure I want to 
go 
> > >back to the silver print look for display prints.
> > 
> > Exactly my sentiments, and "fabled" is a good word.  I held on 
to 
> that
> > standard in my mind for a long time, but last summer I searched
> > through a box of old fiber base silver prints (mostly on Oriental
> > Seagull, Ilford MGFB and Galerie) looking for something and was 
> struck
> > by how distracting and annoying the glare and reflections were.  
I'd
> > forgotten how bad it was and realized how much I've come to love 
the
> > completely reflectionless carbon ink prints.  
> > 
> > I think that was the final step in completely leaving behind the 
> last
> > traces of desire to recreate the look of emulsion prints of any 
> sort.
> > I believe I have now, even subconsciously, fully accepted and
> > embraced the fact that we are working with a different medium.  
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Clayton
> > 
> > 
> > Info on black and white digital printing at    
> > http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
> >
>

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