Digital BW, The Print

The alternative inksets are those from InkjetMall, MIS, Lyson, and
others. Each inkset has its strong and weak points. I think Shilesh's
main point is that with the 2400 you can get very good prints out of
the box. (See Clayton Jones' discussion --
http://www.cjcom.net/articles/digiprn9.htm --
of BW printing on the 2400. As for the 2200, I've used MIS PKN 
http://www.inksupply.com/roarkslab.cfm
for black only printing on glossy papers and there is very little
bronzing, great dmax, but some dottiness, which isn't necessarily
bad.) Gloss differential/bronzing are not completely eliminated,
however, with the 2400. As far as I know, no pigment inkset completely
eliminates gloss differential/bronzing -- that, as well great dmax,is
why many people are interested in the potential of the Nanochrome inkset.

Chris Hargens


 In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Joanne Emerson"
<jojo_xmodel@y...> wrote:
>
> Oh my! This is starting to sound a little too complicated. What are 
> these alternative inks you are refering too? Will they work with the 
> Epson 2200 and gloss papers? How about the quadtone rip? I may be 
> better off shooting film and using a wet darkroom or buying the 2400.
> Please explain.
> 
> Thnx!
> Jo
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Shilesh Jani" 
> <shileshjani@b...> wrote:
> >
> > Jo
> > 
> > Having a RIP always provides more options and control. QTR is 
> indeed 
> > great. And yes, you can play around with different inks, but be 
> > forewarned it will seriouly curtail your productivity (making 
> usable 
> > prints)initiallly. And no, I am afraid there are no proven b/w 
> inks 
> > for use with gloss type papers. That does not mean there are no 
> > alternative inks - there are many. But, you will face one of the 
> > following problems (1) gloss differential with pigment type inks 
> from 
> > MIS, InkjetMall, etc or (2) Metamerism from dye type inks from 
> Lyson
> > 
> > The 2400 (or 4800 if you want larger prints) will be such a 
> dramatic 
> > improvement over your current 2200 that you may find all the 
> messing 
> > around rather unnecessary. And yes, you can use QTR will the 2400. 
> > 
> > For glossy, semi-glossy prints on the 2200 using Epson inks, QTR 
> will 
> > NOT reduce the pesky problem of bronzing/gloss differential. I 
> forgot 
> > to add earlier that if you are willing to spray coat (or laminate) 
> > your prints than the bronzing/gloss differential can be reduced or 
> > even eliminated. But perfecting spraying techniques is another PhD 
> > project.
> > 
> > I am still under the assumption that you do not want to make a 
> career 
> > out of playing with inks. Currently there are no proven third-
> party 
> > pigment type b/w inks for the 2200 which will beat the 2400 out-of-
> > the-box in the bronzing/gloss differential area.
> > 
> > Good luck, and if you can, sign up with Tom O'Connell's monthly 
> print 
> > exchanges. You get to see a variety of inks and papers.
> > 
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBW-PrintExchanges/
> > 
> > I am working on a potential (unproven, no fade resistance data) 
> > solution with NanoChrome inks, and if you are interested in 
> playing, 
> > send me an email, and I will walk you through it.

>