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Re: [Digital BW] Epson Ultrasmooth vs. Premiere Hot Press

2005-11-24 by Carl Schofield

I purchased the Premier Luster Rag from IT Supplies.

Carl

On Nov 23, 2005, at 8:17 PM, Paul Roark wrote:

> It sounds like there is a QC problem somewhere.  What retailers  
> were these
> purchased from?
>
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of  
>> Carl
>> Schofield
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 4:40 PM
>> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson Ultrasmooth vs. Premiere Hot Press
>>
>> I had exactly the same experience when I recently purchased a box of
>> Premier Luster Rag.  Ragged edges, poor packaging, scuffed paper
>> surface, warped, and very stiffly curled paper out of the box.  Never
>> again.
>>
>> On Nov 23, 2005, at 4:26 PM, wwodets wrote:
>>
>>> I recently went to Epson Ultrasmooth Fine Art for an OBA-free paper
>>> and
>>> was impressed with it:  good image, impeccable quality, etc.
>>>
>>> Having heard that Premiere Hot Press was the same paper, I  
>>> ordered 150
>>> sheets of it.  It looks like the EUS, measures like it and their
>>> profiles are essentially identical.
>>>
>>> The Premiere paper, however, shows *terrible* quality control: bad
>>> edges, miscuts, insects smashed in the coating (really) and,  
>>> worst of
>>> all, radom scuffing of the coating that is quite visible in black
>>> areas
>>> of the print.
>>>
>>> At the same time I bought a box of the Premiere Hot Press  
>>> Textured and
>>> these sheets were so badly cut and stiff and deformed that I had
>>> difficulty loading them into the printer.  It is a very rough
>>> surfaced,
>>> ugly, badly finished paper.
>>>
>>> So, if you're thinking about a Premiere paper, watch out.  I was
>>> shocked.
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