Digital BW, The Print

Hi Guys..

if I can help I will..But in the UK Innova Is Produced There!

contact Mark Messina at markm@...


            Stock is on the shelf in the UK, product is produced there :)


Jim Doyle


J. Doyle Enterprises LLC
114 Old Orchard Rd
Cherry Hill, NJ 08003
856-424-8660
http://www.shadesofpaper.com
AOL IM: Brokerup99

  -----Original Message-----
  From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Ernst
Dinkla
  Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 2:41 PM
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Dmax with Epson 2400 on matte media - UK paper
suppliers


  Steve, you wrote:

  > What's your cost of 17in HPR 308?  What's VAT in The Netherlands? BTW
you
  > never popped into this discussion in the WF Group when people (incl
Steve
  > Gledhill) asked for prices from European suppliers.

  Don't know the HPR 308 17" price here but the same site I
  mentioned has prices for HM papers. AFAIK I have given the
  same address before in the WF group. The HM papers at 36 and
  44 " are even with the best reductions still more expensive
  per sqm than the Innova papers of the same quality.
  VAT is 19% here but I run a business so don't count that part.

  > A guy sitting in the UK has still got to get your Netherlands product to
the
  > UK.  No duty would be payable on goods from the Netherlands of course
and it
  > is highly unlikely to added by UK Customs on goods sent from Shades of
  > Paper.  At worst, and again this is very unlikely for irregular
shipments,
  > 17.5% VAT will be levied re goods shipped from the US on the cost of
goods
  > plus postage (ie landed value), plus a £12 processing fee.

  Again I don't count the VAT, if I have to pay, I can also
  deduct again. At the same time I have to be careful with
  import tax. The occasional package may not be observed but it
  counts up and customs here can add a lot up over the years
  when they think you cheated them as a business. Paper just
  isn't that cheaper in the US, delivery time longer and sending
  rolls back when they are not good is a hassle.

  > I don't think Innova product is sold here in the UK.  If I am wrong will
  > someone please correct me as that will provide another interesting price
  > comparison.

  This can't be true.
  http://www.innovaart.com/contact.html
  If you check the contact page you will see that Mark Messina
  is located in the UK. He should know who sells it in the UK.
  There are pound prices at their site:
  http://www.innovaart.com/fine_price_soft.html

  The brothers Bol mentioned on the contact page are involved in
  Innova but also the men behind www.arca-nl.nl, the distributor
  in The Netherlands.
  If there's no UK solution ask the price at Arca-nl. They speak
  or write English and it could well be that though the
  communication goes through their business the delivery might
  be directly from a warehouse in the UK. AFAIK, at least part
  of the production is UK based.

                      --
             Ernst Dinkla


  www.pigment-print.com
  (         unvollendet         )


  Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as
they are often being updated.

  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint

  If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to
unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same
page.

  Please follow these basic guidelines:
  - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep
them short.
  - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames.
Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the
membership without notice.
  - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W
printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from
the membership.
  - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and
guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and
Moderators. See “Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines” in the Files section:
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/

  BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT
YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE “OWNER” AND
“MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU
FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY
DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS,
GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE  “OWNER” AND
“MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE
POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY
TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR
ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY
THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER
MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP.




  SPONSORED LINKS Digital wedding photography  Learn digital photography
Digital photography college
        Digital photography  Digital photography web site  Digital
photography course


----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
  YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS

    a..  Visit your group "DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint" on the web.

    b..  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
     DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

    c..  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.


----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--


--
No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.2/137 - Release Date: 10/16/2005


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]