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Re: problem w/MIS spongeless UT-FSN... help possible?

2005-09-03 by Eric Bowman

After wrestling with a MIS CFS on my 1280 without ever getting
reliable prints, I stuffed it in a drawer...I then saw the new clear
carts and thought they looked great (and I had all of that ink left
over).  However, I have cleaned, purged, and printed until I am ready
to be fitted for restraints, and it simply will not print a complete
image without dropping nozzles.

I finally gave up and switched back to color dye.  Perfect nozzle
checks immediately, and no issues.

I wonder if significant prior use with the color dye somehow makes the
printer unsuitable for pigments; maybe it's not possible to completely
remove all of the dried dye (if the prior owner let it sit - I bought
it used).  I've heard others have good results if they started new
printers with the pigments.  I have tried every cleaning trick I could
track down, including filling extra clear carts with a mix of
distilled water and ammonia.  Nothing worked in the long term.

I'd love to try the new UT7/Pro inks in my 2200, but I'm afraid of
messing it up and then being unable to sell it.

Eric

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Hahn"
<markhahn2000@y...> wrote:
> Thanks... I guess I know all that... but I want to throw my printer
out 
> the window at this point!  I have a feeling that the carts are all 
> defective.  The poppet is really, really touchy in the black and
that 
> is the worst (really had to wiggle the adapter around to get it to
open 
> up for the priming step)... think one or two of the "color" set
were 
> also weird.  Off to a great start!  Between the ink, carts and
paper 
> order I have a feeling I just wasted $200 for nothing but a few
nights 
> frustration :(  I also have a clean CFS that I can use if these 
> spongeless carts are really so terrible... first try I have 3
channels 
> bad... makes it seem statisically unlikely that I would ever be
able to 
> get a color cart in which all three channels worked :(
> 
> ... the optimistic in me wanted to believe that with the new carts
and 
> inksets that the system would actually work as advertised... at
least I 
> wasn't so optimistic that I bought a new 1280 strictly for MIS inks
and 
> everything to go with it... (I was close, but then figured I try
out 
> the 1160 before spending $500 on the 1280 setup... the price of a
wide 
> carriage HP or a good down payment on a R2400!).
> 
> I've reprimed the carts 3 times.  I've printed purge patterns until 
> they were all gray.  I've done more cleaning cycles than I should
have 
> and the patterns change every time.  The printer was giving perfect 
> patterns with epson dye the minute before the installation of the
MIS 
> spongeless carts.  Am I missing something?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> mark
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
"kenstrain2000" 
> <kenstrain2000@y...> wrote:
> > Mark,
> > your struggles are familiar (with 1160,1270,1290 printers). AFAIK
it
> > is really important not to do more than 3 clean cycles without 
> > stopping for a rest (for the printer) and (very important) then
do a
> > small print
> > (purge pattern). 
> > The "cleans" are not all the same (short, medium and long), and I
> > think the pattern requires to be reset after a set of 3 to work
well. 
> > Look for the cause of the problem - if a couple of sets of cleans
do
> > not fix it. There are many resources with advice (the old
mwords.co.uk
> > pages, MIS, etc. etc.), but thoughtful diagnosis is the best way
to a
> > cure.
> > 
> > Ken

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