Tyler wrote: "I think you are much better off spending the $50 on QTR and using your color inks to fine tune your hue. You can still use the MIS K ink if you like." I just now got around to downloading and playing around with Quadtone RIP on my 2200. How things have changed since I last RIPped... This baby is not just a RIP, it is a work of art. Or if not that then at least a labor of love. Nice smooth dither pattern (pretty much perfect at the 2880 setting) and more curve/separation options than anyone could possibly ask for. But still quite useable by novices with the provided curves, even on paper they weren't exactly designed for. That is probably no news to most of you here - but I haven't been ripping since around the time Adobe Pressready died so I'm impressed. My compliments to the chef! Just for fun I made a quick curve in QTR using only the magenta and cyan inks (no black) since I wanted to see what an all blue print would look like. Pretty straightforward, got me a blue print curve set (hmm one wonders what an all blue print would look like on that 1800 with that nice true blue ink!). Guess I've got to get back into this printing stuff! Only issue I see with QTR is that you can only icc profile/softproof in Photoshop for the exact paper settings *and* tint curve settings you use in QTR (which is where all the chanel separations occur). If you tweak the tint in Photoshop you get no interactive color changes in the print (density changes only since QTR converts any RGB file to greyscale before applying the separations). That is pretty much standard for this sort of B&W RIP so no problem there, just a comparative issue. For comparison, the other (non-QTR) choice is to create the channel separations in Photoshop and print from multichannel mode using a RIP that prints each channel as it is defined in Photoshop. That gives you the interactive ability to see the effects of each curve tweak on the color/tone as you make them. But that is a more complicated and expensive way to go about it (it might still be my favorite way - I need to try one of those new RIPs that do that well for the 6/7/ or 8 color inksets). Although with the more recent 3 black/gray printers the only curves you'd use would be for tinting/toning not the more severe gray-value quadtone partitioning so that should not be the rocket science it once was on the 3000. Or, in other words comparing the two types of RIPs, you can make lots of softproof icc profiles for using with a grayscale RIP like QTR, one for each paper-type/tint setup, and then you can see in Photoshop (but not change) what each set of selections gives you in the print. Or you can use a non-grayscale multi-channel RIP with one profile for each paper type and then get any number of interactive tint variations with that one profile by tweaking in Photoshop. Guess it depends on how much time you want to spend tweaking curves and seeing what happens to the image vs printing a nice gray image though an established tint curve... :-) And back to the topic of mixing inks -- like Tyler, I tried that a lot back in my old 3000 days. You can get some nice effects but I think the current set of Epson printers and all the inks and RIPs now available sort of make that all moot. Easier to mix color in the driver rather than the bottle. Also, you may want to question if mixing inks could cause interactions between the colors of the inks (this used to be a problem even *after* printing with unmixed inks when the inks would blend on the paper then become less stable - not sure if that is still an issue with current inks). At any rate, if someone is going to blend up their own inks in the bottle, as a suggestion, I'll mention here an experiment that I did that had some very promising results: Mix equal parts of cyan/magenta, yellow/magenta, and cyan/yellow to get a red, blue, green inkset (that inkset is for a four-ink printer one would have to adapt it for a six ink printer). Since red blue and green inks made this way can't combine to give anything other than *less* saturated blends on paper you get an inkset that lends itself to grayscale (or, at most, redscale, greenscale, or bluescale). In other words, when you print with, say, blue and red with this inkset you move as much toward neutral gray as toward purple. The inkset can be icc profiled with some profiling software and your RGB "grayscale" images in Photoshop will be softproofable so you can see what changing the relative amounts of each RGB channel will do to the outcome. Of course you would need a CMYK profile and RIP to see exactly what the K channel does but for most uses the RGB driver with an RGB profile works quite well with RGB inks. Also, on the older 4 color printers, it does *not* give you those nice smooth dot- less highlights you get with real quadtone inks and quadtone rip systems. But on the more recent small-dot light-gray ink printers RGB might be an nice inkset that reduces color crossovers in the neutral grays. Might work quite well in Quadtone RIP also.. Dan
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Re: BO printing on Epson 4000 (two questions)
2005-07-11 by Danny Culbertson
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