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Re: [Digital BW] Digital vs scan for BW Print

2005-07-08 by scott_now_coming

Detail contained within the file.

Of course the 1DsMKII is fullframe and the Nikon isn't. Though, I 
understand that is to Nikon's advantage.

Here is just one example of what I'm talking about:

"As we have proved in our comparisons the step in resolution from 12 
MP to 16 MP; 16% isn't as big as you may expect (it's not for 
instance as big as the step from 8 MP to 12 MP; 22%). Thus at a nice-
lens-buying difference of $3,000 the D2X offers much better value for 
money than Canon's EOS-1Ds Mark II. Don't doubt Nikon's strategy of 
sticking to a cropped sensor. The advantage of only using the 'sweet 
spot' area of the lens is clear, full size 35 mm sensors may have 
long been the dream of the digital photographer but they do place 
much bigger demands on the lens." 

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond2x/page28.asp

I would rather upgrade to the Mamiya ZD and skip 35mm, but I may need 
more "pixles" before the ZD is availible. That's why I asked.

Scott



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Tom Baker 
<tbaker1328@s...> wrote:
> But, detail at what size?
>  
> Tom Baker
> 
> 
> scott_now_coming <scott_now_coming@y...> wrote:
> Woody,
> 
> What subject matter do you photograph and do you make prints 
20"x24" 
> or larger?
> 
> I wondering what the print quality difference is between the D2X 
and 
> the D70 with "large" prints?
> 
> Some are saying the D2X produces files with "detail" to rival or 
> exceed the 1DsMkII.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Scott
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Elwood Spedden 
> wrote:
> > Yes I am lucky to own a D2X. Prior to that I had both
> > a D1X and a D100. Frankly, the D70 is a better camera
> > than the D100 and while I still love the D1X the many
> > many advantages of the D2X were just too much to pass
> > up. I have been using now for about three months and I
> > don't regret the decision to spend that much money at
> > all.
> > 
> > woody
> > 
> > --- scott_now_coming 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > ---------------------------------
> > Woody,
> > 
> > Do you own a D2X?
> > What was your previous camera?
> > 
> > Thoughts...?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Scott
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
> > Elwood Spedden 
> > wrote:
> > > Steve
> > > 
> > > You get exactly that in the new Nikon D2X and D2Hs.
> > It
> > > can be very helpful
> > > 
> > > woody
> > > 
> > > --- Steve Kale wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > Err I meant "ANY channel's highlights".
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > From: Steve Kale 
> > > > Reply-To:
> > > 
> > > > Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 19:33:02 +0100
> > > > To: 
> > > > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Digital vs scan for BW
> > > Print
> > > > 
> > > > Personally I am surprised that they haven't added
> > an
> > > auto "expose to the
> > > > right but without blowing and channel's
> > highlights"
> > > exposure setting and the
> > > > ability to automatically bracket down (only) from
> > > that. This would be very
> > > > smart. 
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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