Digital BW, The Print

I didn't say it was "a miss," I said something was "amiss" in that there is a difference 
between the information provided to me by the Epson field engineer and the experiences 
of folks on this site.  I'm not calling into question the experiences of folks on this site.

I've had a 4000 for over a year and am extremely happy with it.  I was hoping that the 
7800 would simply be a 24" version of the 4000.  It seems to me that if all Epson wanted 
to do was solve the quality and metamerism issues with black and white, they should have 
teamed with Roy Harrington with QTR and kept the 7800/9800 printers to be wider 
versions of the 4000.  OTOH, Roy's doing such great stuff with QTR on his own, I'd hate to 
see Epson get involved and screw it up.

99% of what I do is black and white and I can probably live with matt only rather than 
switch, but I was hoping for something better as an upgrade to the 7600 other that just 
better black and white printing.  The black and white prints that I saw at the demo would 
have ended up in my waste basket.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Graham" <gebilwil@n...> 
wrote:
> Yes and no.  The Epson expert that I talked to had heard little from Espon at the time 
the 
> first 4800 shipped, and he wasn't getting his demo model until a couple of weeks later.
> 
> Hence, the person you heard was probably wrong for reasons related to the above.  He 
> said "shouldn't" based on what he had heard, not "doesn't" based on what he knew.
> 
> It only drains the black ink, but it charges all the inks on that side, using about 94 ml of 
> ink.
> 
> Amiss?  get a grip.  The printer has the added feature of a LLBlack in exchange for dual 
> "black blacks".  That is not amiss, it is a choice.  You can still buy a 4000, and 
depending 
> on your business model that may be the best choice. And recall that the "Man for all 
> Seasons" was beheaded, so "you" (Epson or whomever") can't win that way either.
> 
> Scott
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jamesdsteele2001" 
> <photographybysteele@p...> wrote:
> > Several weeks ago I attended a presentation by Epson on the 4800 among other 
things.  
> I 
> > specifically asked an Epson field engineer about the allegations that it was so 
expensive 
> to 
> > switch inks.  He said it shouldn't take more than 10-15ml of ink to switch on the 
4800 
> > because it involved only the black and the line was relatively short.
> > 
> > I tend to believe that something is amiss.  Surely Epson is capable of giving an 
accurate 
> > answer about how much ink is lost in the switch.  Epson should respond to this 
subject.
> > 
> > Jim