dfaprinting wrote: >- > >If you link the many black ink channels into one color (K), then BO >becomes that entire K color. So it all depends on how the RIP deals >with linking and mixing the inks. When you send a magenta to the RIP, >you don't have to tell it which magenta to use, the RIP just fits it >to the nearest point in the LUT, and spits out the correct amount of >one or more channels. Same should apply to the 3 black channels, once >mixed, you should get a continuous tone from the start point to the >end point, and won't have to worry about whether it is using light, >medium or full black ink (or any combination of those). And yes the >mixing can make quite a mess out of your limits, but that's another >topic of discussion. > > > On the Wasatch SoftRip that's all very nice sorted out for RGB and CMYK streams. The 9600 has the Cc, Mm, Kk, partition point choices. And the greyscale will use the Kk (I do expect but haven't checked as I do not have a 9600) as it is, so a warm black without neutralisation. The 9800 will get Kkk partition point choices. The Scanvec Amiable RIP didn't use the k at all so far for the 9600. This month there's a version available though that has it. Still a warm black you get that way. So, it isn't just about the use of the Kkk's in greyscale mode but the neutralising and/or toning as available in Advanced B&W mode that I do not see appear in RIPs. With good profiled color printing it shouldn't be a problem to use neutral RGB c.q. duotone RGB for similar results. Though the B&W quality will not exceed QTR or Advanced B&W printing. And many designers will be disappointed when their greyscale files in PDFs don't print neutral. On top of that the greyscale images are either having gamma or dotgain added and CM in the RIP is reserved for color only. So the perceptual quality will suffer if compared to what we are already having despite the partitioning + linearisations that's available in the RIP. There may be exceptions where perceptual adjustments are done on the greyscale data, I don't know whether they exist. Little would be needed to make greyscale neutral and more perceptually correct. I would love to see the first report here of a Postscript RIP that has some sliders to get there. Ergosoft's Posterprint is the most likely winner. The graphic industry heritage of most RIPs is still showing in many aspects of their B&W handling. Somewhere on the web there is an article on CcMmYK(k) Silkscreen Printing. Unheard off before that inkset was used in inkjet printing. The competition didn't have that quality so why worry. At best you heard: OK, we can print an extra red separation for that reproduction as I can't make it with CMYK. Maybe we will see better B&W offset printing due to digital B&W printing. They have to. Ernst
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Optimal RIP gamma - was how many shades of grey?
2005-06-21 by Ernst Dinkla
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