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Re: [Digital BW]Epson & Hahnemuhle paper in Australia

2005-06-11 by Gary Brown

Steve:

Do you have a website where we can view some of your work? You have been
providing quite a bit of information on this forum. It would be helpful to
see what type of images you prefer. It helps us to understand where you are
coming from.

Gary Brown
www.pbase.com/garyallenbrown


----- Original Message -----

From: "Steve Kale" <stevekale@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 1:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW]Epson & Hahnemuhle paper in Australia


I have had bunch of this paper and, in simple terms, it does not have the
dynamic range (visual and measured) of other papers with similar finishes.
Therefore, I prefer the other papers.


> From: Tony Kelly <tonyk@...>
> Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:40:43 +1000
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW]Epson & Hahnemuhle paper in Australia
>
> Steve,
>
> I don't know if the D-max department is all you & others make of it.
>
> Would you care to enlighten those of us who actually like using this or
> other papers that don't measure up in your opinion as to what exactly it
is
> that makes them inferior as far as print quality is concerned ?
>
> Aside from D-max issues you may have experienced ...
>
> I'm referring to information that is of use to those of us who print
without
> measuring. Maybe this helps ...  how black does a black have to be if it
is
> perceived visually to be black.

A subjective issue.  At what point is "black" just dark grey?


>
> As far as I'm concerned Somerset can and in my experience does produce
some
> beautiful prints and good blacks .. I'll agree that this may be down to a
> lot of factors including inks, printers, media selection and the like, but
I
> have difficulty seeing a real problem with this paper.
>
> You statement needs some qualifying and I for one would appreciate more
> information than you have provided ...
>
> Or is d-max to some the be all and end all,

Dynamic range, propensity to flake, finish texture, longevity without
fading, colour temp of the blank substrate are all important properties.
>
> I though beautiful prints might come into it ..
>

Put the beautiful image on the best paper you can get.  The dynamic range of
SEV is not as good as many other papers in its "range".  JMHO






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