Digital BW, The Print

You can use Premier A S for matte prints, and it does give them better uv 
protection and can in many cases double the life of the print. But, there is 
slight loss of d-max with it on matte papers which Lascaux does not exhibit. 
For prints with a lot of  blacks as Paul suggested to us all, Lascaux works very 
well as a protectant.

John



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Scott McLoughlin <
scott@a...> wrote:
> Curious - why not Print Shield for matte prints? What does it "do"
> to them?
> 
> Scott
> 
> Paul Roark wrote:
> 
> > For glossy prints I use PremierArt Print Shield. For matte prints I use
> > Lascaux Fixativ (see http://www.dickblick.com/zz217/14/ ).
> >
> > Paul
> > www.PaulRoark.com
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Margaret Stratton
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 1:46 PM
> > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Matte versus glossy dmax: a matter of physics?
> > >
> > > Paul,
> > >
> > > What spray are you using on you prints. With MIS ink I assume.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > M Stratton
> > >
> > >
> > > On May 25, 2005, at 11:39 AM, Paul Roark wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dave,
> > > >
> > > > I think the best example that shows that the surface reflective
> > > > characteristics are the main differences between matte and glossy
> > > > papers
> > > > with respect to dmax is that an Arches Hot Press, un-coated print
> > > > jumps from
> > > > about 1.5 to 2.5 with multiple coats of, for example, acrylic,
> > > > applied to
> > > > its surface to give it a gloss.
> > > >
> > > > The spectrophotometers we use for measuring dmax use nearly 
perfect
> > > > lighting
> > > > that avoids the problems of reflections. This gives the glossy
> > > > papers a
> > > > huge advantage.
> > > >
> > > > In the real world, a matte print sitting on my desk top appears to
> > > > have a
> > > > better dmax than a gloss print because the glossy print dmax is wiped
> > > > out by
> > > > reflections. That is, the nature of the lighting is what makes all
> > > > the
> > > > difference. If the display conditions are perfect, the glossy prints
> > > > are
> > > > terrific. If the lighting is bad, like a window behind the viewer,
> > > > matte
> > > > wins.
> > > >
> > > > Of course, if one puts glass over matte, you may end up with the
> > > > worst of
> > > > both worlds. So, my favorite is a sprayed Semimatte with no glass.
> > > > But, I
> > > > think both types of prints are important, and being able to print
> > > > either
> > > > matte or glossy is a critical part of any inkset I mix.
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > > > www.PaulRoark.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of
> > > > > davelongviews
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 7:29 AM
> > > > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Subject: [Digital BW] Matte versus glossy dmax: a matter of physics?
> > > > >
> > > > > There has been a lot of discussion over extended periods on the
> > > > group
> > > > > regarding matte
> > > > > and glossy dmax. Is it true that light SCATTERED at the paper
> > > > surface is
> > > > > what gives a matte
> > > > > surface its look, and that very same scattering is what reduces
> > > > dmax? And
> > > > > with a glossy
> > > > > paper less light is scattered, more is REFLECTED, dmax is greater,
> > > > and you
> > > > > have the
> > > > > glossyness to deal with. In other words isn't it true that you
> > > > can't have
> > > > > a matte surface with
> > > > > a truely large dmax? Aren't paper surface/glossiness and dmax
> > > > directly
> > > > > related in a way we
> > > > > wish they weren't? Is it physically possible to separate the two?
> > > > Any
> > > > > thoughts?
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave
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