I suppose I mean straight through feed, but I don¹t seem to have any options with my Epson driver¹s for paper feed at all. Nothing about auto sheet feeder not even in , maximum, no margins, roll, etc. I just place individual paper in the printer for each print I make. For paper I choose Archival Matte Paper. Perhaps in QTR I should try the Illford heavy paper option? Nick On 3/6/05 10:03 PM, "Roy Harrington" <roy@...> wrote: > > > It doesn't sounds like unusual paper. By "manual feed" do you mean the > straight-through feed? Have you tried the auto sheet feeder? I wonder if the > 2100 printer or 2100 driver is somehow different. What paper and feed > options are you picking in the Epson driver? > > Roy > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, nickmt <nickmt@o...> > wrote: >> > Thank you Roy, >> > >> > Paper seems to be the problem. I completed several prints using plain >> > paper, letter size. My paper of choice is what B&H pushes here in NY >> called >> > Inkpress, print plus matte dbl sided, 12 mil/80lb. Very nice paper, very >> > white base, less expensive than Epson. Any reason it goes through for with >> > my Epson driver, but not QTR? I only always manual feed one sheet at a >> > time. (Your profiles look beautiful on it). >> > >> > Nick >> > >> > >> > >> > On 3/6/05 7:48 PM, "Roy Harrington" <roy@h...> wrote: >> > >>> > > >>> > > Hi Nick, >>> > > >>> > > The output shows all things OK. There aren't errors or missing >>> messages. >>> > > It just ends with the print job cancelled presumably by you. >>> > > >>> > > The lights that you are getting sure look like a mechanical problem. >>> > > I have a 2200 not a 2100 but the manual has a Solving Problems chapter >>> > > that goes though all the combinations of red and green lights, on, off and >>> > > flashing. All the explanations are ink, paper and feed related. Is the >>> paper >>> > > too heavy, too many sheets, roll vs sheet vs manual slot? Try ordinary >>> sheets >>> > > EEM paper, letter size (or A4). >>> > > >>> > > The output shows you printed via the Epson driver immediately before. >>> > > Did that complete OK? Same paper, size, feed, etc?? >>> > > >>> > > Roy >>> > > >>> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, nickmt >>> <nickmt@o...> >>> > > wrote: >>>>> > >> > Unfortunately not again still.... >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > Using 1440 super, matte paper, tabloid size. P2100 false starts >>>>> then red >>>>> > >> > light goes on, print never spools past 40%. >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > Here is the diagnostic. >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > Last login: Sun Mar 6 16:38:09 on ttyp1 >>>>> > >> > /Volumes/QTRIP2.1/DiagnosticScript.command; exit >>>>> > >> > Welcome to Darwin! >>>>> > >> > Nicholas-Kuskins-Computer:~ nicholaskuskin$ >>>>> > >> > /Volumes/QTRIP2.1/DiagnosticScript.command; exit >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> ******************************************************************** >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > **** QuadToneRIP Diagnostic Script --- Save Output for Analysis **** >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> ******************************************************************** >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > Sun Mar 6 16:43:16 EST 2005 >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > **** Printer Info **** >>>>> > >> > scheduler is running >>>>> > >> > system default destination: Quad2100 >>>>> > >> > device for Quad2100: >>>>> > >> > usb://EPSON/Stylus%20Photo%202100?serial=L53030211280858300 >>>>> > >> > device for Stylus_Photo_2100: ///dev/null >>>>> > >> > Quad2100 accepting requests since Jan 01 00:00 >>>>> > >> > Stylus_Photo_2100 accepting requests since Jan 01 00:00 >>>>> > >> > printer Quad2100 disabled since Jan 01 00:00 - >>>>> > >> > Paused >>>>> > >> > printer Stylus_Photo_2100 is idle. enabled since Jan 01 00:00 >>>>> > >> > kPMEventJobProgress:1 1 1 1 1 1 96 >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > **** QTR Programs **** >>>>> > >> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 nicholas nicholas 21668 2 Jun 2004 >>>>> /usr/local/bin/qacv >>>>> > >> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 nicholas nicholas 20684 2 Jun 2004 >>>>> /usr/local/bin/qacvraw >>>>> > >> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 nicholas nicholas 20340 2 Jun 2004 >>>>> /usr/local/bin/qadd >>>>> > >> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 nicholas nicholas 20472 2 Jun 2004 >>>>> /usr/local/bin/qcurve >>>>> > >> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 nicholas nicholas 20088 2 Jun 2004 >>>> > >> /usr/local/bin/qdensity >>>>> > >> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 nicholas nicholas 16196 2 Jun 2004 >>>>> /usr/local/bin/qdiff >>>>> > >> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 nicholas nicholas 19688 2 Jun 2004 >>>> > >> /usr/local/bin/qdotgain >>>>> > >> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 nicholas nicholas 19472 2 Jun 2004 >>>>> /usr/local/bin/qgamma >>>>> > >> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 nicholas nicholas 19652 2 Jun 2004 >>>>> /usr/local/bin/qgraph >>>>> > >> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 nicholas nicholas 19432 2 Jun 2004 >>>>> /usr/local/bin/qlimit >>>>> > >> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 nicholas nicholas 14836 2 Jun 2004 >>>>> /usr/local/bin/qline >>>>> > >> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 nicholas nicholas 20560 2 Jun 2004 >>>>> /usr/local/bin/qmerge >>>>> > >> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 nicholas nicholas 22644 2 Jun 2004 >>>>> /usr/local/bin/qpart >>>>> > >> > -rwxrwxrwx 1 nicholas nicholas 23376 1 Mar 2004 >>>>> /usr/local/bin/qpart2 >>>>> > >> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 nicholas nicholas 19404 2 Jun 2004 >>>>> /usr/local/bin/qplot >>>>> > >> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 nicholas nicholas 20524 2 Jun 2004 >>>>> /usr/local/bin/qspline >>>>> > >> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 nicholas nicholas 2974 2 Jun 2004 >>>>> > >> > /usr/local/bin/quadcurves >>>>> > >> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 nicholas nicholas 9952 2 Jun 2004 >>>>> > >> > /usr/local/bin/quadprofile >>>>> > >> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 nicholas staff 30672 5 Dec 2003 >>>>> > >> > /usr/local/bin/quadraster >>>>> > >> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 nicholas staff 2242 6 Mar 13:22 >>>>> > >> > /usr/libexec/cups/filter/quadrastertoprinter >>>>> > >> > -rwxrwxrwx 1 nicholas nicholas 2094 3 Sep 2004 >>>>> > >> > /usr/libexec/cups/filter/quadtoneprint >>>>> > >> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 nicholas nicholas 1177356 20 Sep 19:46 >>>>> > >> > /usr/libexec/cups/filter/quadtoprinter >>>>> > >> > total 0 >>>>> > >> > drwxr-xr-x 3 nicholas nicholas 102 6 Mar 16:37 QuadTone.plugin >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > **** QTR Printer Descriptions **** >>>>> > >> > -rw-r--r-- 1 nicholas staff 8316 8 Dec 2003 >>>>> > >> > /usr/share/cups/model/C/escp2-10000-quad.ppd.gz >>>>> > >> > -rw-r--r-- 1 nicholas nicholas 2833 19 Sep 15:44 >>>>> > >> > /usr/share/cups/model/C/escp2-1160-quad.ppd.gz >>>>> > >> > -rw-r--r-- 1 nicholas nicholas 2902 19 Sep 15:44 >>>>> > >> > /usr/share/cups/model/C/escp2-1200-quad.ppd.gz >>>>> > >> > -rw-r--r-- 1 nicholas nicholas 2902 19 Sep 15:44 >>>>> > >> > /usr/share/cups/model/C/escp2-1270-quad.ppd.gz >>>>> > >> > -rw-r--r-- 1 nicholas nicholas 2916 19 Sep 15:44 >>>>> > >> > /usr/share/cups/model/C/escp2-1280-quad.ppd.gz >>>>> > >> > -rw-r--r-- 1 nicholas nicholas 2914 19 Sep 15:44 >>>>> > >> > /usr/share/cups/model/C/escp2-1290-quad.ppd.gz >>>>> > >> > -rw-r--r-- 1 nicholas staff 8361 8 Dec 2003 >>>>> > >> > /usr/share/cups/model/C/escp2-1520-quad.ppd.gz >>>>> > >> > -rw-r--r-- 1 nicholas nicholas 2837 19 Sep 15:44 >>>>> > >> > /usr/share/cups/model/C/escp2-2000-quad.ppd.gz >>>>> > >> > -rw-r--r-- 1 nicholas nicholas 2937 19 Sep 15:44 >>>>> > >> > /usr/share/cups/model/C/escp2-2100-quad.ppd.gz >>>>> > >> > -rw-r--r-- 1 nicholas nicholas 2937 19 Sep 15:44 >>>>> > >> > /usr/share/cups/model/C/escp2-2200-quad.ppd.gz >>>>> > >> > -rw-r--r-- 1 nicholas nicholas 2796 19 Sep 15:44 >>>>> > >> > /usr/share/cups/model/C/escp2-3000-quad.ppd.gz >>>>> > >> > -rw-r--r-- 1 nicholas nicholas 2892 19 Sep 15:44 >>>>> > >> > /usr/share/cups/model/C/escp2-4000-quad.ppd.gz >>>>> > >> > -rw-r--r-- 1 nicholas staff 8228 8 Dec 2003 >>>>> > >> > /usr/share/cups/model/C/escp2-5000-quad.ppd.gz >>>>> > >> > -rw-r--r-- 1 nicholas staff 8434 8 Dec 2003 >>>>> > >> > /usr/share/cups/model/C/escp2-5500-quad.ppd.gz >>>>> > >> > -rw-r--r-- 1 nicholas nicholas 3060 19 Sep 15:44 >>>>> > >> > /usr/share/cups/model/C/escp2-7000-quad.ppd.gz >>>>> > >> > -rw-r--r-- 1 nicholas nicholas 3061 19 Sep 15:44 >>>>> > >> > /usr/share/cups/model/C/escp2-7500-quad.ppd.gz >>>>> > >> > -rw-r--r-- 1 nicholas nicholas 3089 19 Sep 15:44 >>>>> > >> > /usr/share/cups/model/C/escp2-7600-quad.ppd.gz >>>>> > >> > -rw-r--r-- 1 nicholas nicholas 2514 19 Sep 15:44 >>>>> > >> > /usr/share/cups/model/C/escp2-860-quad.ppd.gz >>>>> > >> > -rw-r--r-- 1 nicholas nicholas 2582 19 Sep 15:44 >>>>> > >> > /usr/share/cups/model/C/escp2-870-quad.ppd.gz >>>>> > >> > -rw-r--r-- 1 nicholas nicholas 2594 19 Sep 15:44 >>>>> > >> > /usr/share/cups/model/C/escp2-890-quad.ppd.gz >>>>> > >> > -rw-r--r-- 1 nicholas nicholas 3189 19 Sep 15:44 >>>>> > >> > /usr/share/cups/model/C/escp2-9000-quad.ppd.gz >>>>> > >> > -rw-r--r-- 1 nicholas nicholas 3190 19 Sep 15:44 >>>>> > >> > /usr/share/cups/model/C/escp2-9500-quad.ppd.gz >>>>> > >> > -rw-r--r-- 1 nicholas staff 7455 8 Dec 2003 >>>>> > >> > /usr/share/cups/model/C/escp2-960-quad.ppd.gz >>>>> > >> > -rw-r--r-- 1 nicholas nicholas 3218 19 Sep 15:44 >>>>> > >> > /usr/share/cups/model/C/escp2-9600-quad.ppd.gz >>>>> > >> > -rw-r--r-- 1 nicholas nicholas 2515 19 Sep 15:44 >>>>> > >> > /usr/share/cups/model/C/escp2-980-quad.ppd.gz >>>>> > >> > -rw-r--r-- 1 nicholas nicholas 2712 19 Sep 15:44 >>>>> > >> > /usr/share/cups/model/C/escp2-ex-quad.ppd.gz >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > **** USB connections **** >>>>> > >> > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 41864 2 Mar 19:58 >>>>> /usr/libexec/cups/backend/usb >>>>> > >> > direct usb "Unknown" "USB Printer (usb)" >>>>> > >> > direct usb://EPSON/Stylus%20Photo%202100?serial=L53030211280858300 >>> > > "EPSON >>>>> > >> > Stylus Photo 2100" "Stylus Photo 2100" >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > **** CUPS Info **** >>>>> > >> > I [06/Mar/2005:16:32:59 -0500] Setting Stylus_Photo_2100 >>>>> > >> > printer-is-accepting-jobs to 1 (was 0.) >>>>> > >> > I [06/Mar/2005:16:32:59 -0500] Setting Stylus_Photo_2100 >>>>> printer-state to 3 >>>>> > >> > (was 5.) >>>>> > >> > I [06/Mar/2005:16:32:59 -0500] Saving printers.conf... >>>>> > >> > I [06/Mar/2005:16:32:59 -0500] New printer 'Stylus_Photo_2100' >>>>> added by ''. >>>>> > >> > I [06/Mar/2005:16:34:23 -0500] Adding start banner page "none" to job 1. >>>>> > >> > I [06/Mar/2005:16:34:23 -0500] Adding end banner page "none" to job 1. >>>>> > >> > I [06/Mar/2005:16:34:23 -0500] Job 1 queued on 'Stylus_Photo_2100' by >>>>> > >> > 'nicholaskuskin'. >>>>> > >> > I [06/Mar/2005:16:34:23 -0500] Started filter >>>>> > >> > >>>>> /System/Library/Printers/Libraries/PrintJobMgr/Contents/MacOS/PrintJobMgr >>>>> > >> > (PID 347) for job 1. >>>>> > >> > I [06/Mar/2005:16:38:10 -0500] Saving printers.conf... >>>>> > >> > I [06/Mar/2005:16:38:10 -0500] New printer 'Quad2100' added by ''. >>>>> > >> > I [06/Mar/2005:16:38:10 -0500] Setting Quad2100 device-uri to >>>>> > >> > "usb://EPSON/Stylus%20Photo%202100?serial=L53030211280858300" (was >>>>> > >> > "file:///dev/null".) >>>>> > >> > I [06/Mar/2005:16:38:10 -0500] Saving printers.conf... >>>>> > >> > I [06/Mar/2005:16:38:10 -0500] Printer 'Quad2100' modified by ''. >>>>> > >> > I [06/Mar/2005:16:38:10 -0500] Setting Quad2100 >>>>> printer-is-accepting-jobs >>>> > >> to >>>>> > >> > 1 (was 0.) >>>>> > >> > I [06/Mar/2005:16:38:10 -0500] Setting Quad2100 printer-state to 3 >>>>> (was 5.) >>>>> > >> > I [06/Mar/2005:16:38:10 -0500] Saving printers.conf... >>>>> > >> > I [06/Mar/2005:16:38:10 -0500] Printer 'Quad2100' modified by ''. >>>>> > >> > I [06/Mar/2005:16:38:23 -0500] Saving printers.conf... >>>>> > >> > I [06/Mar/2005:16:38:23 -0500] Printer 'Quad2100' modified by ''. >>>>> > >> > I [06/Mar/2005:16:42:19 -0500] Adding start banner page "none" to job 2. >>>>> > >> > I [06/Mar/2005:16:42:19 -0500] Adding end banner page "none" to job 2. >>>>> > >> > I [06/Mar/2005:16:42:19 -0500] Job 2 queued on 'Quad2100' by >>>>> > >> > 'nicholaskuskin'. >>>>> > >> > I [06/Mar/2005:16:42:19 -0500] Started filter >>>>> > >> > /usr/libexec/cups/filter/cgpdftoraster (PID 1864) for job 2. >>>>> > >> > I [06/Mar/2005:16:42:19 -0500] Started filter >>>>> > >> > /usr/libexec/cups/filter/quadtoneprint (PID 1865) for job 2. >>>>> > >> > I [06/Mar/2005:16:42:19 -0500] Started backend >>>> > >> /usr/libexec/cups/backend/usb >>>>> > >> > (PID 1866) for job 2. >>>>> > >> > N [06/Mar/2005:16:42:20 -0500] [Job 2] : QuadToneRIP: using curve >>>>> > >> > UC-EEnhMatte-cool >>>>> > >> > N [06/Mar/2005:16:42:20 -0500] [Job 2] : QuadToneRIP: using curve >>>>> > >> > UC-EEnhMatte-warm >>>>> > >> > N [06/Mar/2005:16:42:20 -0500] [Job 2] : HWResolution = [ 1440 720 ] >>>>> > >> > N [06/Mar/2005:16:42:20 -0500] [Job 2] : ImagingBoundingBox = [ 9 40 774 >>>>> > >> > 1175 ] >>>>> > >> > N [06/Mar/2005:16:42:20 -0500] [Job 2] : Margins = [ 0 0 ] >>>>> > >> > N [06/Mar/2005:16:42:20 -0500] [Job 2] : PageSize = [ 792 1224 ] >>>>> > >> > N [06/Mar/2005:16:42:20 -0500] [Job 2] : cupsWidth = 15480 >>>>> > >> > N [06/Mar/2005:16:42:20 -0500] [Job 2] : cupsHeight = 11750 >>>>> > >> > N [06/Mar/2005:16:42:20 -0500] [Job 2] : stp_get_resolution(v) >>>>> |1440super| >>>>> > >> > N [06/Mar/2005:16:42:20 -0500] [Job 2] : >>>>> stp_get_dither_algorithm(v) >>>>> > >> > |Ordered| >>>>> > >> > N [06/Mar/2005:16:42:20 -0500] [Job 2] : GIMP-PRINT w=792 l=9 r=783 > h=1224 >>>>> > >> > t=1215 b=40 >>>>> > >> > N [06/Mar/2005:16:42:20 -0500] [Job 2] : GIMP-PRINT w=15480 l=180 r=180 >>>>> > >> > h=11750 t=90 b=400 >>>>> > >> > I [06/Mar/2005:16:43:06 -0500] Saving printers.conf... >>>>> > >> > I [06/Mar/2005:16:43:06 -0500] Printer 'Quad2100' stopped by ''. >>>>> > >> > I [06/Mar/2005:16:43:07 -0500] Job 2 was cancelled by >>>>> 'nicholaskuskin'. >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> ******************************************************************** >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > **** QuadToneRIP Diagnostic Script --- Save Output for Analysis **** >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> ******************************************************************** >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > logout >>>>> > >> > [Process completed] >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > On 3/6/05 4:10 PM, "Steve Kale" <stevekale@b...> wrote: >>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > Again - which dpi? Make sure you are not using 2880 - use >>>>>>> 1440 super. >>>>> > >>> Also >>>>>>> > >>> > > post the output from the Diagnostic Script so that guys like >>>>>>> Roy can >>> >> > helkp >>>>>>> > >>> > > you. >>>>>>> > >>> > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > From: nickmt <nickmt@o...> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Reply-To: >>>>>>>>>>> <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2005 18:43:29 -0500 >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Subject: [Digital BW] Qtr >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Dear All. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > I've installed panther, and all the drivers to >>>>>>>>>>> support Epson 2100. >>>>>>> > >>>>> It runs >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > fine. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > I've installed qtr and it won't run at all. 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Re: [Digital BW] Qtr
2005-03-07 by nickmt