Digital BW, The Print

John wrote
....What does QTR allow you to do that the Roark
curves do not? It may help to know that I am looking at getting an
epson 2200 to do color work also. Will either system allow me to do
both color and b and w on a 2200? ....

I have used both systems. Pauls system I used on a 1160 with MIS UT 
inks and worked without a hitch. However it requires you to convert 
your printer to B&W  by replacing the coloured inks with a set of 
black/grey inks. Its a straight forward system and you print using 
the Epson driver. However if you want to print colour and BW from the 
same printer, then a RIP is the only answer. I recently bought a 
2100/2200 and using OEM inks print colour through the Epson driver 
and BW using QTR. Roys QTR is a great product at a bargin price. 
Installing QTR on a Mac is a doddle, on PC maybe more difficult but 
certainly worth trying. There are two other RIPs that I know of, 
ImagePrint and IJC/OPM. ImagePrint RIP is expensive but does print 
colour and B&W, and comes with many profiles. Its also does a lot 
more than just print and is a standalone product. IJC/OPM is like QTR 
a BW only RIP, but again is a standalone product and so should be 
easier to setup on your machine if you have problems with QTR. I have 
no experience of either. Check their web sites for more info.

Hope this helps a little.

Peter

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jarrrush" 
<johnr@v...> wrote:
> 
> I am wondering is someone can compare QTR to Paul Roark's 
methodology 
> of making B and W prints from both an ease of use and technical 
> standpoint (print quality as you define it). I tried installing QTR 
> and QTR GUI in the next to last version on my WIN XP machine - 
Epson 
> 1270 with MIS inks and it did not seem to work for me (long story).
> 
> I just started using the Roark curves and it is working. I have not 
> spent much time using this system, but it seems like a large number 
> of posters to this list are using QTR and are enthusiastic about 
this 
> system (QTR). I am wondering whether I should try getting the QTR 
to 
> work on my machine. What does QTR allow you to do that the Roark 
> curves do not? It may help to know that I am looking at getting an 
> epson 2200 to do color work also. Will either system allow me to do 
> both color and b and w on a 2200? I do understand from reading 
> through the list that both are excellent systems but from a 
> newcomer's perspective I am having a hard time figuring out the 
> quality difference between the two systems. From an ease of use 
> perspective, Paul's methodology seems easier to set up inititally.