I guess I too was lucky - absolutely turn-key operation from the piezo system. BUT... My 1160 printer suddenly croaked with ruined heads. Am I to drop another $50 for the Piezo 6.0 upgrade, and $390 for the bloody hextone (the quad printers are out-of-date) inks to get back to square one? Or will I be just as happy with a MIS hex system @$76 for the inks? AZ --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., sturos@m... wrote: > I am delighted that Jon Cone & Bill Bergh have so many loyal > supporters out there...and I certainly wish them no ill will, though I > DID find their system maddeningly frustrating and expensive, primarily > due to frequent clogs. > > It may be that, as Bill Bergh once told me, that this is endemic to > using a fairly inexpensive printer (in my case an 1160) for a fairly > sophisticated process in a manner in which it was never intended. > > Perhaps. > > My only comment/observation/complaint is this: I am a photographer, > not a printmaker. My primary objective is to make more and better > images in and through the camera, whether the recording medium is film > or a CCD is increasingly a secondary concern. > > PhotoShop is an amazingly powerful and precise tool, and after > printing black and white photos conventionally for more than 25 years > it's a pleasure to be able to work on and manipulate an image in PS > more effectively and in a more pleasant environment than I ever could > in a darkroom doing things manually. > And no more spotting! > > So, yeah, I expected a learning curve with Piezography. I expected to > spend whatever requisite time was needed to further or additonally > calibrate my monitor, tweak settings for different sorts of images, > for instance defining PS actions to get levels to where they should be > in photos that needed more or less contrast, or at least get close; > but basically to do whatever it took to get this system standardized > and working. > > But first and foremost, I expected the system to work, on a very nuts > and bolts level, right out of the box, just like an Epson, just like a > Pictograph.... > > I did not expect spend countless hours flushing the machine and > wasting valuable ink. > I did not expect to find that some of the very papers that are in > Cones own "Sample" pack needed to be sprayed to hold the ink to paper. > > Someone replied earlier that when these problems/frustrations started > to happen, that was when he (and I) started to check out some of these > forums, and read about other peoples experiences/solutions to these > problems. > I was amazed to find all kinds of ingenous tricks to faciliate > unclogging the heads; > the windex/Fantastik method, blowing out bubbles with syringes, etc . > etc. > > Call me cranky; I guess I'm just not interested in that; it seems > unnecessarily fussy and time consuming, and frankly, on an ongoing > basis, I'd rather be working on the images than working on the > machinery used to produce them. > > Maybe Lyson SG will work; maybe it will prove to be an inferior > product to the Piezography system and Cone inks. Maybe I'll find a way > to tweak and standardize the Epson drivers to allow me to print black > and white images to my satisfaction (they do a fantastic job in color, > and the newer generation printers are drawing raves). Regrettably, > even Epson readily admits that their printers are not designed for > black and white printing. > > And who knows, maybe in the end Piezography will work out all the > kinks and be the wonder it claims...For the guy on the list who has > printed 100's (1000's???)of prints without a clog or banding...well > brother, I wish that I'd had your luck. > All I'm saying is that for now it just doesn't do
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Re: Piezo expectations
2001-11-05 by Alan Zinn
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