Digital BW, The Print

Richard,

What you say is correct. For most uses, 360 ppi is just perfect.

Anyway, I was told that the native resolution of the 2100/2200 is 720 ppi.
And for the 7600/9600, the native res is 360 ppi.

I´m just trying to get the best quality I can out of my printer> I always
believed that the right way to do was to send the file in the final res,
ready to print. 

Michael Tapes, designer of Qimage, belongs to the group of people that
believe the best approach is to send the file in the native resolution. That
is the only reason I use this approach. 

I never did any test myself. I was just following a recipe that seems to
work fine.

But your points are all valid.

Again, thank you for your input.

Nelson

-----Original Message-----
From: richard_h95050 [mailto:richardh@...] 
Sent: sábado, 7 de agosto de 2004 22:04
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Announcement: QuadToneRIP for Windows XP


Hi Nelson,

I just ran an 8X10 @ 360 ppi, and the tonal transitions are still "smooth as
a baby's bottom" -- I guess I can safely say that because the print is a
studio shot of a newborn and mother, and that's the main subject matter ;>)

Don't know what would happen over 8X10 or at 720 ppi, but since my machine
has a stack of letter-size EEM in it, that's what I'm playing with. The only
other question I have is regarding the need for the 720 ppi setting, and
it's purely a theoretical question:

I haven't tested 720 PPI with QTR to see if it causes any problems for me,
but I also haven't found any reason to go to the higher res for my own work
(admittedly a subjective choice). I'm also running other RIPs; Imageprint on
my 9600, PiezoBW/Pro or Imageprint/Quad drivers on my 7000 and Paul Roark's
UT-2 (both EZ and w/curves) on my 1280. All are fed at 360 ppi, and the
output pleases my eye. 

John Cone used to suggest pushing as much resolution down the pipe as
possible, but others present some interesting counterpoints about just how
much of that information actually impacts the print, depending on how the
RIP and/or driver handles the data, etc. -- and they're all a bit different.
Roy would be able to answer that for us about QTR, I'm sure, and you as an
artist are the best judge of your own results.

Speaking subjectively, I've can't pragmatically differentiate between prints
made using the additional ppi, and some of the RIP makers even suggest
letting their software do the work and not adding to the file size
unnecessarily. However, those are some of the ongoing technical
conversations that cycle continuously through the forums, and I'm not trying
to rekindle that flame (pun intended). The bottom line to me is
-- "be happy, make your clients happy and make beautiful prints". 

Hope you get everything tweaked to meet your own personal workflow. It would
be interesting to know if the difference in ppi is really evident in your
prints -- I'm always interesting in taking a second look at things and
questioning my own assumptions... ;>)

Most of all, thanks to Roy for all his hard work, endless generousity, and
giving us all an exciting reason to be even having these dialogs!

Kind regards,
Richard



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson Ricciardi"
<nelson_@r...> wrote:
> Thank you Richard
> 
> I´m also having fun printing images smaller than 8x10 in 360 ppi.
> 
> I´ll try a 5x5 using 720 ppi to see if it works. 8.5x11 in 720
ppi
does not
> work for sure.
> 
> Again, thanks a lot.
> 
> Nelson
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: richard_h95050 [mailto:richardh@j...]
> Sent: sábado, 7 de agosto de 2004 20:48
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Announcement: QuadToneRIP for Windows XP
> 
> 
> Hi Nelson,
> 
> I'd be happy to share, but must say I did nothing whatsoever besides
install
> and print. I used the defaults exactly as they are in the files Roy
provided
> without changing even a line of text:
> 
> 1. Letter size EEM (or EAM, depending on your geography)
> 
> 2. Image size was 5X5 at 360 ppi (a low-key, studio portrait of an
infant
> with very smooth and subtle tonal transitions)
> 
> 3. Image in RGB mode, 8 bit, desaturated using modified c/m
technique
> 
> Since my first post I have also made a couple of more prints using
the same
> settings, included some high-key images and enjoyed the same fine
results. I
> haven't even started to tweak anything because I'm having too much
fun!
> 
> Hope this helps, but Roy has already done all the work ;>)
> 
> Kind regards,
> Richard
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson
Ricciardi"
> <nelson_@r...> wrote:
> > Richard
> > 
> > Could you please share with us
> > 
> > paper size
> > file size (inches)
> > dpi
> > 
> > that you´re using?
> > 
> > Thank you
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
> "richard_h95050"
> > <richardh@j...> wrote:
> > > Hi Roy,
> > > 
> > > Just wanted to let you know that I downloaded and installed
your 
> > > QTR/XP files onto one of my Win2K machines, followed the very
> simple
> > > direcions you've provided and made my first print in less than
5 
> > > minutes.
> > > 
> > > Excellent. You're the best!
> > > 
> > > Richard
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Roy
> > Harrington"
> > > <roy@h...> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > I've just uploaded the first release of QuadToneRIP for the
PC. 
> > > > The initial version supports the 2200 with UltraChrome Inks.
> > > > 
> > > > Other printers and canned profiles will be available fairly
> soon.
> > > > Support for creating your own profiles is not available yet.
> > > > 
> > > > Roy
> > > > www.harrington.com
> 
> 
> 
> 




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